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Old 12-08-2002, 04:55 AM   #1
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Default okay so its bad to tow an AWD car with 2 wheels on the ground...

but is it okay if you leave the car running and in neutral?
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Old 12-08-2002, 05:23 AM   #2
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no, not unless all 4 wheels are on the ground.

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Old 12-08-2002, 05:30 AM   #3
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NEVER tow an AWD with only two wheels on ground. Will burn out drive train in a heartbeat.
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Old 12-08-2002, 05:48 AM   #4
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yeah thats what i thought, but they guy running the tow truck REFUSED to believe me. so what all do you think is damaged, and how do i make sure he has to pay for it, considering i tried to tell him like 6 times.
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Old 12-08-2002, 05:57 AM   #5
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Don't know why your car was towed. But if it were towed to Subaru, I would let them know what happened and have them check it out. Or call your local dealer and see what could have happened. It is in your owner’s manual on the proper towing procedure. I would contact the owner of the tow truck company, make a copy of the procedure and show it to him, have Subaru check your car and have the expense of checking your car covered by the tow truck company. The tow truck company might come back at you and say why didn't you show us the documentation in the first place. Were you there when he picked the car up or was it over the phone. If over the phone then you’re OK because you cant show him the owners manual through the phone. If you were at the car when they picked it up it could be a different story. But who says your owner’s manual was in the car
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Old 12-08-2002, 06:07 AM   #6
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i was there in person, but my owners manual was at home. it was towed because the cops thought my license was suspended, but its not they said they couldnt confirm whether it was suspended or not, so instead of taking me to jail (they had me cuffed in the back of the cop car for a while) they were just gonna write me a ticket for driving with a suspended license and tow the car. i always thought you were innocent until proven guilty, so if they cant confirm my license was suspended they should assume it wasnt. i also got a ticket for racing on the highway (i didnt race, i was parked on the side of the road when the cops got there, NOBODY was racing when they got there, yet 9 racing tickets were issued) and one for fleeing (if one cop pulls one other person over, never made an attempt to tell me to stop, and i drove off, then pull over immediately when another cop finally does decide to turn his lights on and come after me and the 6 others driving away, how were we fleeing? we cant be fleeing if there is nobody pursuing us )
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Old 12-08-2002, 06:09 AM   #7
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the thing is, there was a fargin flatbed truck RIGHT THERE towing away somebodys mustang. they could have just as easily put my car on the flatbed and towed the mustang with 2 wheels down.
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Old 12-08-2002, 06:20 AM   #8
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I would say it's the popo's fault for towing the car on a two wheel after you requested it be towed by a flat bed. The mustang is a rwd and can be towed safely. You might have a good case about the racing ticket since you wern't actually racing. But depending on local ordinances you could have looked you awere going to race. A bs loophole in the racing law. They could turn around and get you for loitering too. For fleeing if a cop made no notion of stopping you then it's not fleeing. A car beside me ran a red light and I rolled into the intersection thinking it was green. There was a cop behind the oter car and I had the option to take a hard right turn and go down a side street but the cop rolled down his window and motioned me to follow him. He said I would have got a fleeing ticket if I turned. Another stupid ticket to go along with my other 27 tickets. Try postponing your court date as much as possible and maybe the cop wont show up.
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Old 12-08-2002, 10:03 AM   #9
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jeezus, how hard is this for tow truck operators to learn?

I know it's a demanding science and all, but sweet god you'd think they'd be able to remember this little bit of knowledge.
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Old 12-08-2002, 10:24 AM   #10
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Manual Transmission: All Wheel drive vehicles can be towed with all four wheels on the ground or with all four wheels off the ground on a trailer but towing an AWD vehicle must never be attempted with only two wheels on the ground or two wheels on a dolly.

Manual Transmission Front Wheel Drive vehicles can be towed with all four wheels on the ground in neutral or with the two front wheels off the ground.

Automatic Transmission AWD vehicles cannot be towed with any wheels on the ground. The vehicle can only be towed on a trailer with all 4 wheels off the ground and the transmission in park.
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Old 12-08-2002, 01:11 PM   #11
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call you insurance company, they may pay it then go after the towing company, you'll need a center diff and rear diff most likely.

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Old 12-08-2002, 02:49 PM   #12
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The towing company should know not to tow an AWD vehicle with any wheels touching the ground. Every time I have had my car towed they always knew this and ordered a flat bed. I never had to say anything.

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Old 12-09-2002, 01:36 PM   #13
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Id suggest doing all your homework and document EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING. Then just take the tow company to small claims and get your parts replaced. Even if the car still works you have put a huge amount of wear on it. How do you know what will happen at 100k miles?
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:55 PM   #14
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Id suggest doing all your homework and document EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING. Then just take the tow company to small claims and get your parts replaced. Even if the car still works you have put a huge amount of wear on it. How do you know what will happen at 100k miles?
why waste all that time, call your insurnace company and let them fight the battle for you, well that's given that you HAVE insurance.

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Old 12-10-2002, 09:19 AM   #15
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yes i have insurance. i got the car back and drove it to college yesterday and it ran fine the entire day, but youre right theres no way in telling what it will do down the road.
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Old 12-11-2002, 02:04 AM   #16
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Unhappy it might still be broke....

Well, one a%^hole tow driver did that to mine to for about a quater mile with me chasing and screaming at him (he claims i was illegally parked infront of my house and he had permission from the homeowners to tow things at will!)... so i called an associate i know who is a local shop foreman for subaru and he said check to see that all 4 tires move, jack up the whole car and see if all 4 wheels turn. He told me the subaru's are designed to be front wheel drive if it all goes to hell-in-a-handbasket. I used some wet pavement, a few friends, and a clutch dump. 4 nice marks. The other test he said is to turn tight left and right circles (tight) and see if there is any binding. I have a 01 RS and mine seems to be fine but it wasnt far. Also, on a wierd note, my usually chattery-when-cold clutch suddenly got smooth like brand new for the few weeks afetr the incident. PAst this i dunno... could be some sort of latent damage.

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