('93-'01) Help! I had my ACT Clutch installed today and...

LongIsland RS · 05-17-2001, 02:45 PM

Sorry if this is long I get nervous about my scooby

I finally got the clutch kit and had it put in, So far so good. I noticed that the petal is very stiff (much stronger then before) the mechanic said that i should check to see if i need to replace some master cylinder thing and something else because the factory ones might not be able to handle the pressure?

Does anyone know what he's talking about.....and should I worry?

Also first thing I noticed when I started her up is that when the car is at idle and the revs come down to about 1100 rpm or so, the whole car shutters a little bit (only at 1100 or so, its fine when it drops to normal idle at around 800). It almost feels like it might stall, and yes the engine was warm when this happened. It never did this before and the mechanic said not to worry about it that it feels like normal (I don't think so). It runs great. Any insight on that?

Some people also claimed their act grabbed much lower...mine seems to grab at the same height just with more pressure on the pedal.

[This message has been edited by LongIsland RS (edited May 17, 2001).]

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Cortana · 05-17-2001, 03:07 PM

Yeah... the ACT clutches have a really firm push on them... finally, it takes some foot action to get that thing down.

I'd say that it engages just a little earlier, but it's also a lot more tactile when it does, as opposed to the mushy stock clutch that you're never sure is engaging.

As for the shudder, I couldn't tell ya, or even really guess without feeling it for myself

scott

LongIsland RS · 05-17-2001, 07:16 PM

Yeah I noticed how the feel is so much more defined compared to stock.

I reset me ECU because he did have my battery unplugged.... Why, I don't know?

It still has the shutter, but it is slightly better.

bender · 05-17-2001, 07:30 PM

they disconnect the battery because they have to remove the starter. not really necessary if you are careful, but definately safer having it disconnected.

MichiganRS · 05-17-2001, 07:49 PM

I puck style clutch will shutter or puck if you will when take off from dead stop. A clutch shouldn't effect the idle. If you have a lightened flywheel that can effect idle though. Also the mechanic was probally reffering to the presure plate being able to handle it
John,

LongIsland RS · 05-17-2001, 08:59 PM

It's still the stock flywheel and the street clutch disk.
I don't know something is just funny about the situation....(My scooby senses are going through the roof)
Just before when I was driving I would hear a random scratching noise from the tranny....While driving in 3rd at about 2k rpm's...weird
Once again I am praising the "act clutch" but kicking my self in the ass for choosing the mechanic. Then again that could just be a noise that comes with it and the mechcanic could be right...Hey he works on cars for a living, I don't. Oh well, whats done is done...

Please excuse me for using this board to vent

[This message has been edited by LongIsland RS (edited May 17, 2001).]

HRE | giulio · 05-18-2001, 02:02 PM

I had the act clutch and lightened flywheel put in at the same time.
i do get VERY slight vibe around that rpm but it's neglegable... ya really gotta hold the door handle firmly to feel it. I also have the STI motor mounts though.
So i think that (stiffer motor mounts)+(lightened flywheel)=(more than stock vibration). It's definitely liveable though. I had to remove a heat shield from the exhaust cuz it was being rattled too much.
You're really close to where i work. If you want, take me for a spin in your car and i'll see if it's simular to mine, or something to really worry about.
g

LongIsland RS · 05-18-2001, 04:44 PM

Get this...
It was really acting strange...
So after work today I followed my friend home from work, his dad was a Subaru technician at Donaldsons before they sold out (You locals will know what I mean).
All he smelt as soon as I pulled up, was the gear oil burning. He pops my hood looks around and listens, then checks the level of the gear oil.
EMPTY! Completely dry.

He said that if I would have continued driving like that, I would need a new tranny very very shortly and that I might have already taken some of the life away from it.
I filled it up and I'm letting it sit because there is a good chance that it is now leaking, I put a sheet under the car and I'm gonna check for spots tomorrow. I smelled it too when I brought the car home from the shop yesterday and saw it smoking up right from behind my catalytic converter... so I called the mechanic. He just said that he spilled some gear oil and not to worry just let it burn away, that he was unable to get a rag in there to wipe it away.

Man this gets me fuming.

I'm bringing it back tomorrow morning after I see if it was leaking...
We are going to have words

Albert · 05-19-2001, 06:54 PM

Any update...

paultg · 05-19-2001, 07:07 PM

Well, if it makes you feel any better, they do not need to drain the fluid from your tranny to do a clutch. What I think happend is the mechanic pulled the front driveshafts out of the tranny to slide it back. If he did not plug the hole in the tranny with anything, fluid would leak out of it. He might have lost enough fluid to cause the tranny to run low, and may have spilled some of the fluid from this area on the exhaust (or if he refilled the tranny via the dipstick). Again, doing a clutch should not require the tranny to be drained as far as I know. Maybe you have a leak because he did not hook something back up.
Good luck,

Ps, you can go here to see what a clutch install consists of on a Subaru Rs: http://wac.addr.com/auto/obs/clutch/clutch.html

Paul G.

[This message has been edited by paultg (edited May 19, 2001).]

Keith · 05-19-2001, 07:44 PM

who did the install??
keith

Pipercub · 05-19-2001, 08:04 PM

Having done my own clutch this week I can assure you that the tranny must be tilted to be pulled back and the rear shaft will have to be removed and this combination means FLUID WILL run out the back, and allot of it too. The only way around this is if you have a plug for it and that is hard to do with the shaft in the middle of the hole.

LongIsland RS · 05-20-2001, 07:24 AM

This mechanic in Ronkonkoma (Hayes Auto)
I confronted him about the probablem and he acted all suprised like a deer in headlights.
He said that it did leak out with the front driveshafts were removed and he swares that he refilled it.
I told him I put 2.5 qts in the day before and checked over night, there were no leaks.
He says he put 4 qts in....cough cough bull***** cough...
He said that when he checked the level there must of been an air bubble that made it come up full...

Then he wanted to look under it to make sure that there is no leak, so I drive it in and we go under it in the pit.
Dry as a bone except where the left over oil was that he spilled and never cleaned..
Which he then finally cleaned all off and apologized for the whole mishap.

Man, I will never even bring a go-kart to that guy again.

But my subie is running good now and a love the clutch

[This message has been edited by LongIsland RS (edited May 20, 2001).]

Albert · 05-20-2001, 03:05 PM

I would also drain some oil after the car has been sitting an hour to check for metal shavings.

05-17-2001, 02:45 PM	#1
LongIsland RS Scooby Newbie Member#: 845 Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Long Island, NY Vehicle: 99 2.5 RS Silverthorne Metallic	Help! I had my ACT Clutch installed today and... Sorry if this is long I get nervous about my scooby I finally got the clutch kit and had it put in, So far so good. I noticed that the petal is very stiff (much stronger then before) the mechanic said that i should check to see if i need to replace some master cylinder thing and something else because the factory ones might not be able to handle the pressure? Does anyone know what he's talking about.....and should I worry? Also first thing I noticed when I started her up is that when the car is at idle and the revs come down to about 1100 rpm or so, the whole car shutters a little bit (only at 1100 or so, its fine when it drops to normal idle at around 800). It almost feels like it might stall, and yes the engine was warm when this happened. It never did this before and the mechanic said not to worry about it that it feels like normal (I don't think so). It runs great. Any insight on that? Some people also claimed their act grabbed much lower...mine seems to grab at the same height just with more pressure on the pedal. [This message has been edited by LongIsland RS (edited May 17, 2001).] * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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05-17-2001, 03:07 PM	#2
Cortana Scooby Newbie Member#: 655 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Berkeley CA Vehicle: 2000 RS-T Sedan BRP	Yeah... the ACT clutches have a really firm push on them... finally, it takes some foot action to get that thing down. I'd say that it engages just a little earlier, but it's also a lot more tactile when it does, as opposed to the mushy stock clutch that you're never sure is engaging. As for the shudder, I couldn't tell ya, or even really guess without feeling it for myself scott

05-17-2001, 07:16 PM	#3
LongIsland RS Scooby Newbie Member#: 845 Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Long Island, NY Vehicle: 99 2.5 RS Silverthorne Metallic	Yeah I noticed how the feel is so much more defined compared to stock. I reset me ECU because he did have my battery unplugged.... Why, I don't know? It still has the shutter, but it is slightly better.

05-17-2001, 07:30 PM	#4
bender Scooby Specialist Member#: 1839 Join Date: Jul 2000 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: at home	they disconnect the battery because they have to remove the starter. not really necessary if you are careful, but definately safer having it disconnected.

05-17-2001, 07:49 PM	#5
MichiganRS Scooby Specialist Member#: 3069 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Harrison TWP Michigan USA	I puck style clutch will shutter or puck if you will when take off from dead stop. A clutch shouldn't effect the idle. If you have a lightened flywheel that can effect idle though. Also the mechanic was probally reffering to the presure plate being able to handle it John,

05-17-2001, 08:59 PM	#6
LongIsland RS Scooby Newbie Member#: 845 Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Long Island, NY Vehicle: 99 2.5 RS Silverthorne Metallic	It's still the stock flywheel and the street clutch disk. I don't know something is just funny about the situation....(My scooby senses are going through the roof) Just before when I was driving I would hear a random scratching noise from the tranny....While driving in 3rd at about 2k rpm's...weird Once again I am praising the "act clutch" but kicking my self in the ass for choosing the mechanic. Then again that could just be a noise that comes with it and the mechcanic could be right...Hey he works on cars for a living, I don't. Oh well, whats done is done... Please excuse me for using this board to vent [This message has been edited by LongIsland RS (edited May 17, 2001).]

05-18-2001, 02:02 PM	#7
HRE \| giulio Former Vendor Member#: 481 Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NY USA	I had the act clutch and lightened flywheel put in at the same time. i do get VERY slight vibe around that rpm but it's neglegable... ya really gotta hold the door handle firmly to feel it. I also have the STI motor mounts though. So i think that (stiffer motor mounts)+(lightened flywheel)=(more than stock vibration). It's definitely liveable though. I had to remove a heat shield from the exhaust cuz it was being rattled too much. You're really close to where i work. If you want, take me for a spin in your car and i'll see if it's simular to mine, or something to really worry about. g

05-18-2001, 04:44 PM	#8
LongIsland RS Scooby Newbie Member#: 845 Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Long Island, NY Vehicle: 99 2.5 RS Silverthorne Metallic	Get this... It was really acting strange... So after work today I followed my friend home from work, his dad was a Subaru technician at Donaldsons before they sold out (You locals will know what I mean). All he smelt as soon as I pulled up, was the gear oil burning. He pops my hood looks around and listens, then checks the level of the gear oil. EMPTY! Completely dry. He said that if I would have continued driving like that, I would need a new tranny very very shortly and that I might have already taken some of the life away from it. I filled it up and I'm letting it sit because there is a good chance that it is now leaking, I put a sheet under the car and I'm gonna check for spots tomorrow. I smelled it too when I brought the car home from the shop yesterday and saw it smoking up right from behind my catalytic converter... so I called the mechanic. He just said that he spilled some gear oil and not to worry just let it burn away, that he was unable to get a rag in there to wipe it away. Man this gets me fuming. I'm bringing it back tomorrow morning after I see if it was leaking... We are going to have words

05-19-2001, 06:54 PM	#9
Albert Scooby Specialist Member#: 3288 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Diego, CA. USA Vehicle: 1998 Impreza 2.5RS Rally Blue Pearl	Any update...

05-19-2001, 07:07 PM	#10
paultg NASIOC Supporter Member#: 437 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Londonderry, NH Vehicle: '91 Miata MX5 (Red) '09 Impreza OBS (Blk/Gry)	Well, if it makes you feel any better, they do not need to drain the fluid from your tranny to do a clutch. What I think happend is the mechanic pulled the front driveshafts out of the tranny to slide it back. If he did not plug the hole in the tranny with anything, fluid would leak out of it. He might have lost enough fluid to cause the tranny to run low, and may have spilled some of the fluid from this area on the exhaust (or if he refilled the tranny via the dipstick). Again, doing a clutch should not require the tranny to be drained as far as I know. Maybe you have a leak because he did not hook something back up. Good luck, Ps, you can go here to see what a clutch install consists of on a Subaru Rs: http://wac.addr.com/auto/obs/clutch/clutch.html Paul G. [This message has been edited by paultg (edited May 19, 2001).]

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Pipercub Scooby Specialist Member#: 2188 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Remington VA` Vehicle: 2004 Impreza STI 82 BRAT with 12 in. lift	Having done my own clutch this week I can assure you that the tranny must be tilted to be pulled back and the rear shaft will have to be removed and this combination means FLUID WILL run out the back, and allot of it too. The only way around this is if you have a plug for it and that is hard to do with the shaft in the middle of the hole.

05-20-2001, 07:24 AM	#13
LongIsland RS Scooby Newbie Member#: 845 Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Long Island, NY Vehicle: 99 2.5 RS Silverthorne Metallic	This mechanic in Ronkonkoma (Hayes Auto) I confronted him about the probablem and he acted all suprised like a deer in headlights. He said that it did leak out with the front driveshafts were removed and he swares that he refilled it. I told him I put 2.5 qts in the day before and checked over night, there were no leaks. He says he put 4 qts in....cough cough bull***** cough... He said that when he checked the level there must of been an air bubble that made it come up full... Then he wanted to look under it to make sure that there is no leak, so I drive it in and we go under it in the pit. Dry as a bone except where the left over oil was that he spilled and never cleaned.. Which he then finally cleaned all off and apologized for the whole mishap. Man, I will never even bring a go-kart to that guy again. But my subie is running good now and a love the clutch [This message has been edited by LongIsland RS (edited May 20, 2001).]

05-20-2001, 03:05 PM	#14
Albert Scooby Specialist Member#: 3288 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Diego, CA. USA Vehicle: 1998 Impreza 2.5RS Rally Blue Pearl	I would also drain some oil after the car has been sitting an hour to check for metal shavings.