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View Poll Results: what happens to the Rules for Guys when you meet the perfect girl?
The rules go out the window 22 48.89%
I stick to the rules 6 13.33%
What rules? I'm Joe Sensitive. 7 15.56%
How can you talk about girls when there are DemoRATS and Donkey nazi-commies in Congress!!! 10 22.22%
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Old 12-15-2002, 07:20 PM   #1
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Default rules for guys--keep them or ditch them?

Any guy who reads OT should know the rules for guys. Don't act too interested, don't be a puppy dog or a total gentlemen, be mysterious, edgy, unavailable, etc. But when you meet a girl that knocks you off your feet, can you stick to the rules?

I know these rules back and forth, I know where I go wrong in the past. But when the woman I most want to impress, more than just a simple beautiful girl, comes around, I can't stick to the rules.

So far this continues to be a fatal mistake, but I keep thinking that this time it won't matter because she's different....

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Old 12-15-2002, 07:29 PM   #2
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mr_disco,

I say screw the rules and do whatever you please.

Be yourself and let her either accept or reject the person that you are.

If she's interested in you as a person, then the rules should mean nothing.

I think a girl who expects you to play by the rules will eventually also start playing games with YOU. You don't really want to end but like brucelee, do you.
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Old 12-15-2002, 07:41 PM   #3
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I actually met my wife in a dance club. Can you believe it?

She was holding court with a bunch of guys, and spouting some nonsense about Rush Limbaugh. All the other guys were nodding thier heads, and agreeing. Well I could not control my basic nature, and so I called her on it. I asked her if she had ever listened to him, which of his views did she specifically disagree with, and was she merely a mouthpiece for the media. The other guys looked at me in shock. She looked at me and appeared not to know what to say. I left, and an hour later she was dancing next to me. The rest is history.

The moral to the story. Be yourself, otherwise I would never have been able to find a girl that puts up with me. By the way, she was impressed that I was the first guy she had met in California to tell her "No."
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Old 12-15-2002, 07:51 PM   #4
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pitts, if you look at the rules in a way you kinda followed them whilst being yourself.

You went in, got attention, disagreed (thereby making yourself different/ and unavailable) then left, leaving the air of mystery and the like.

I say be yourself, enhanced by rules....when you really like a girl it's tough. The way I see like is if they keep getting better, and by the time you see that much you are in anyway.

that said I didn't talk to a girl for 1.5 weeks, called her to hang out friday, and then she damn near raped me, pretty cute too.
Which brings me to say that if you don't seem sexually available they like you more in that sense too. I made comments, but didn't touch, and she was all over me.

I'm trying to figure if I like the girl I was with thursday or friday more.

-Matt


plus It'll be that much worse when I get back to NM from cali...since I told them both I would be gone (so I don't have to call or anything)....I'll be that much more in when I get home
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Old 12-15-2002, 07:53 PM   #5
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Yep. I also think when brucelee gets mad at a woman because of a game she played, it's because he didn't follow his rules.
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Old 12-15-2002, 07:55 PM   #6
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most rules = games

if you have to play a game to find/keep someone then you're looking in the wrong spot

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Old 12-15-2002, 09:47 PM   #7
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Old 12-15-2002, 10:01 PM   #8
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I never went by the rules, and even if I did, I think I would still be screwed anyway
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Old 12-15-2002, 10:11 PM   #9
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out the window


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Old 12-15-2002, 10:21 PM   #10
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I actually met my wife in a dance club. Can you believe it?

She was holding court with a bunch of guys, and spouting some nonsense about Rush Limbaugh. All the other guys were nodding thier heads, and agreeing. Well I could not control my basic nature, and so I called her on it. I asked her if she had ever listened to him, which of his views did she specifically disagree with, and was she merely a mouthpiece for the media. The other guys looked at me in shock. She looked at me and appeared not to know what to say. I left, and an hour later she was dancing next to me. The rest is history.

The moral to the story. Be yourself, otherwise I would never have been able to find a girl that puts up with me. By the way, she was impressed that I was the first guy she had met in California to tell her "No."

That is too cool.

I am myself, and i follow the rules for guidance sake, but, never happens. They all are not what i'm looking for.

the one, if around, rules out the window

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Old 12-15-2002, 10:25 PM   #11
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We actually went out a few times, and then lost touch with each other.

Then one night we ran into other again.

I hate to sound sappy, but my wife and I were fated to each other.
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Old 12-15-2002, 10:31 PM   #12
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We actually went out a few times, and then lost touch with each other.

Then one night we ran into other again.

I hate to sound sappy, but my wife and I were fated to each other.
dammit, i hope i have it like that


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Old 12-15-2002, 10:33 PM   #13
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I hate to sound sappy, but my wife and I were fated to each other.
doesn't sound at all sappy to me. congrats!

I follow some of the rules. Some of them are "rules" because they are the smart thing to do, some are just politics.

I've only really been in love once, but by then the rules don't apply.
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Old 12-15-2002, 11:04 PM   #14
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The rules get results, but when it matters throw them to the wind. I don't believe in the rules myself, no matter how well they 'work'. Even if you feel like you're going to die, don't start playing games with somebody you think you're falling in love with. You'll ruin it forever.
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Old 12-16-2002, 02:11 AM   #15
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I used to always stick to the rules. I was border line rude....mysterious.....had a whatever attitude...Until i met my current girlfriend I went from a jerk to complete puppy dog ....she is awesome...and I love her very much ....is she the one???? I kinda hope soooo ....beautiful smart caring ....supportive and IS A LAW STUDENT .....so i have a sugar mamma in the making hehehehhe

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Old 12-16-2002, 02:48 AM   #16
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"Tha Rules" are just for getting a piece with meaningless women. they will only hurt you if you are going for a relationship.

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Old 12-16-2002, 11:54 AM   #17
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If you get married, the unwritten vow is 'Obey'. Just remember that.

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Old 12-16-2002, 11:56 AM   #18
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But would you rub another mans' feet?!?
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Old 12-16-2002, 11:57 AM   #19
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Old 12-16-2002, 12:01 PM   #20
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Obey will NOT be in my wedding vows.
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Old 12-16-2002, 12:09 PM   #21
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perchance, are these rules supposed to aid in the art of seduction? if so, i'd say ditch those rules for a flexible MO that caters to your victim.

seduction is all about providing your victim what (s)he does not already possess - physically, emotionally, spiritually, mentally. and you can play it off for a little bit, but if you start to like the person, you're gonna have to come clean at some point. but if you're searching for simple conquests - pretend a little bit, get what you came for and then leave.
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Old 12-16-2002, 01:25 PM   #22
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Obey will NOT be in my wedding vows.
That's why it's 'unwritten', and it only applies to the guys vows.

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Old 12-16-2002, 01:27 PM   #23
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100 Rules To Being A Man

1) Don't call, ever.
2) If you don't like a girl, don't tell her. It's more fun to let her
figure it out by herself.
3) Lie.
4) Name your penis. Be sure it is something narcissistic and
unoriginal, such as "spike."
5) If you lose something that belongs to someone else, tell them you mailed it to them.
6) Here's a good pickup line, "My girlfiend's pregnant, will you go
out with me?"
7) Drink Vernors.
8) Play with yourself. Talk about it.
9) Be as ambiguous as possible. If you don't want to answer, a nice grunt will do.
10) Always remember: You are a man. Therefore, no matter what, it isn't your fault.
11) Lie.
12) Girls find it attractive if a man has had more women than baths.
13) Never ask for help. Even if you really, really need help -- don't ask... People would think you had no penis.
14) Women like it when you ignore them. It arouses them.
15) Vanity is the most important trait for a man to have. Whenever you pass a reflective surface, check you hair, clothing, etc.
16) If you don't like a girl, but can't think of a good enough reason why, just come up with trite, meaningless explanations like, "I don't know. I just don't like her personality."
17) If, GOD FORBID, you have to talk to a girl on the phone, use only monosyllabic words and noises. Bodily noises are permissible.
18) TWO WORDS: Hack and spit.
19) Everyone finds a man more attractive if he can write his name with urine.
20) One sure way to make a girl like you is to go after her best
friend. She will then see what she's missing and love you for not giving up on her.
21) Tell a girl you will call. Then, refer back to rule #1.
22) Say things like "Wha...?"
23) Don't wear matching clothes. People will think your girlfriend
picked them out, and it will cramp your style when picking up
chicks.
24) Lie.
25) Deny everthing. Everything.
26) Good break up line, "It's not you, it's me."
27) If you like a girl, tell all your female friends about her. Because if any of your female friends like you, they'll really want to know.
28) Don't have a clue.
29) If you do get a clue, pretend you didn't and disregard it.
30) No means yes.
31) Yes means no.
32) If you don't get sex whenever you want, your testicles will
shrivel. Enforce this rule at all times.
33) If anyone asks, you have had sex in all possible positions and
locations... Improvise.
34) Much like an orgasm signifies the end of a sexual peak, sex often signifies the end of a relationship.
35) Feelings? What feelings?
36) Tell this to your girl before you have sex, "Don't worry. If you
don't have an orgasm, you won't get pregnant."
37) Life is one big competition. If someone is better than you at
anything, either pretend it's not true or kick some ass.
38) Lie
39) DO NOT make decisions about relationships. If you are backed into a corner and must make a decision, stall. If you still must come up with an answer, leave yourself a loophole for escape.
Example:
Question: "Honey, will you take me out for a romantic dinner?"
Answer: "Yes, if you can guess how many sperm I produce each day."
40) Every sentence that anyone says can be contorted to have sexual meaning.
41) At any given opportunity, point out how things look like various genitalia. If, by chance, you have Play-Doh, make an exact replica of your penis. Measure to make sure it's right.
42) Lie.
43) "Love" is not in your vocabulary. don't even think about saying it.
44) A general rule: If whatever you're doing does not satisfy you
completely in 5 minutes, it's really not worth it.
45) Diss your girlfirend. Beg and plead until you get her back. Diss her again. Repeat cycle.
46) Lie.
47) ALWAYS apologize. NEVER mean it.
48) If you hurt someone, pretend you care. Don't.
49) Try to have a good memory, but it's OK if you forget trivial
things. You know, like your girlfriend's birthday and eye color.
50) Ignorance solves problems. If you can't see them, they can't see you.
51) It is never your duty to take responsibility for your actions.
52) Create new words and phrases to describe genetalia, sex, semen, etc.
53) Complain about not getting any mail. When people FINALLY feel sorry for you and send you mail, ignore it and continue
complaining.
54) Lie.
55) Play with your food only if you are in a public place with people you don't know.
56) Play with your penis only if you are in a public place with people you don't know.
57) If people express extreme disgust at whatever you are doing, DON'T STOP! This is the desired reaction.
58) You are NOT a virgin. Ever. Males are born without virginity.
59) You are male, therefore you are superior.
60) Agenda for a great evening: Get beer. Drink beer. Play with
yourself. Have sex. Drink more beer. Pass out.
61) Females do not care what you do to them as long as they get to please you.
62) Don't ever notice anything.
63) If you're going out with someone, but you love someone else, don't say anything. Wait until the girl you are going out with falls in love with YOU, and then tell her.
64) Basic fundamental rule of dating: Quantity, not quality.
65) Basic fundamental rule of sex: Quantity IS quality.
66) Lie.
67) If you cheat on a girl, but no one finds out, then technically
you've done nothing wrong.
68) Crying is not manly. Then again, if you are a man, what do you have to cry about, anyway?
69) If the question begins with "why," the answer is always "I don't know."
70) Women are your napkins. Use them, and throw them away.
71) Remember, Every virgin girl is saving herself for YOU.
72) If you ever find yourself in a position where you have been proven wrong, blame others. Come up with creative and believable excuses why THEY are at fault, not you.
73) Don't ever let anyone say "I told you so." If you hear this phrase and it didn't come out of your mouth, go ballistic.
74) If your woman makes you go shopping with her, drive around until a parking spot right near the door opens up. If this takes hours, so be it. You will have the coveted "door spot" and others will worship your skills.
75) Keep track of how many seconds in your life you have thought about sex. Compare with others.
76) Other peoples' pain is strictly for your amusement. Laugh long and loud.
77) Lie.
78) General Rule: Different is BAD.
79) If anyone asks you for a favor:
a) make a big deal about how hard it is for you to do it
b) remind them of this huge favor you've done for them at least every 5 minutes for the rest of their life.
80) Each penny you save will be worth at least a dollar in the long run.
81) If you do something really mean to a girl, and she doesn't want to talk to you, pretend nothing happened. If she still doesn't talk to you, casually ask, "is something wrong?"
82) Three words: Let's be friends. Translation: I never want to speak to you again, but it's bad for my nice-guy image if you are mad at me, so I'll pretend I want to be your friend.
83) Lie.
84) If you're on a date, and there is a lull in the conversation, tell
the girl how many different dorms you've been laid in.
85) When you tell a girl about your past, it's good to say, "God, I was such a pimp back then."
86) Here's a good trick. Tell a girl that you're going to leave and
when you come back, you want her naked, sprawled on the bed. Leave, and go into her dad's room and tell him he should go check on his daughter. Then drive like hell.
87) If a girl breaks up with you because you're in love with someone else, she has no right to be upset. Because, after all, SHE's the one who wanted to end the relationship.
88) The best sex position is you, lying face up... and twenty girls on top.
89) Practice your blank stare.
90) Spend your spare time thinking of excuses and shove them up your ass. Then, whenever you need one, you can pull it out of your ass.
91) If you are ever forced to show emotion, just pick random emotions like rage and lust and insanity and display them at random, inconvenient times. You won't be asked to do it again.
92) If you are asked to do something you REALLY DON'T want to do, first try your manly best to get out of it. If that doesn't work, go ahead and do what you were asked to do, but complain that you don't know how to do it and continuously ask questions on how to do each little part. If no one rushes in to do it for you YET, finish the job in the most half-assed way you possibly can and then say, "SEE?? I TOLD you I couldn't do it." Eventually, people will stop asking you to do things.
93) Work out day and night to make your body even more beautiful than it already is. When people ask if you've been working out, say things like, "No, baby, I was BORN like this!"
94) Do not listen to "wussy music" such as Erasure, Color Me Badd, or Oldies.
95) Beer. Then more beer.
96) Scratch your scrotum. See if you can embarrass people.
97) One word: FOOTBALL!
98) Real men beat up others who are inferior. I mean, we don't want the inferior of the species to ever get to reproduce, do we???
99) Diss your girl friends for an occasional night or 5 out with "The Gang".
100) LIE.
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