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Old 12-16-2002, 03:27 PM   #1
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Unhappy Seeking mod friendly dealership for warranty work

I always thought I'd blow something up racing. But no, I blow something up driving down the highway in the rain with my cruise control on! (warning, long story) If you want to help, I'm just looking for a dealer that's mod-friendly for warranty work.

Ok, so here's the deal. Last night I'm driving home in the miserable wind/rain down I-80W from Rocklin and I come to a lighter rain area and hit accellerate on my cruise control (yeah, I'm one of those weirdos who uses it). Usually this isn't a big deal. This time, however, my car decided to KEEP ACCELLERATING. You can imagine my dismay when I hit cancel, set, accel, and then completely turned off the cruise control and it kept accellerating!

At this point I was at about 3900RPM in 5th gear and the turbo was starting to spool (17psi by now). With my setup, that meant that soon I would no longer be going 95, but 150. I mashed on the gas pedal a few times to try to free up the throttle cable. I'm no stranger to 100+mph, but it's a little different in 40mph crosswinds and pouring rain on practically slick tires. I was starting to hydroplane, BAD. I knew if I was going this fast by the next turn in the freeway I would be going straight into the center divider instead.

So I kick into survival mode. I used my brakes to slow me back down to normal speeds again (70mph). This was followed by some more gas pedal mashing and cruise control switch usage. Nothing was working and I knew I couldn't use my brakes anymore at those speeds under power. I wanted to kill the car and coast down, but I was in a construction zone with no shoulder.

I popped it in and out of gear (5th and 4th) a few times -- obviously bouncing off the rev limiter in between -- trying to get my throttle cable free. It was no use. About a mile down the road I rounded a corner (by hydroplaning across two lanes) and saw a long straight with a wide shoulder. I dropped it out of gear one last time and then decided to kill the ignition.

In case you were wondering, coasting to a stop on the freeway from 100mph in the pouring rain without power brakes or power steering is quite interesting. Good thing I have a manual transmission.

After I got stopped I popped the hood open and sure enough, the throttle cable for the cruise control was stuck holding the throttle plate open. I was able to jiggle it around and free it. I started up the car and heard a wonderful "ting ting ting ting ting". I figured I probably shouldn't drive the car but I didn't want to sit out there and wait for a towtruck. So I limped her home.

I'm fairly confident that my UTEC and it's timing retarding is the only reason I was even able to drive it home after that Rev-limiter filled experience. On the drive home it was sensing knock at EVERY RPM point under almost any throttle position. Something is very broken.

I'm still under warranty (500 miles 'till it's up -- probably the only reason I'm not extremely pissed off right now) and I need a Subaru dealership that won't automatically dismiss me because I have a FMIC and aftermarket turbo. I'm confident my aftermarket parts had nothing to do with this catastrophy. It was most definetly a mechanical problem of some sort with the throttle cable binding up or something was wrong inside the cruise control mechanism.

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Old 12-16-2002, 04:42 PM   #2
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santa cruz subaru would be the place to go. they'll work on the car. They only remove what needs to be removed inorder to work on the problem. And they could only put on LEGAL stuff. So read it this way, they'll fix your car as long as they don't have to put the illegal stuff back on. Now I don't know how this whole possible voiding warranty thing going to happen. It's a case by case thing. Good luck!

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Old 12-16-2002, 09:21 PM   #3
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santa cruz subaru would be the place to go. they'll work on the car. They only remove what needs to be removed inorder to work on the problem. And they could only put on LEGAL stuff. So read it this way, they'll fix your car as long as they don't have to put the illegal stuff back on. Now I don't know how this whole possible voiding warranty thing going to happen. It's a case by case thing. Good luck!

Leo
I second that - go to Santa Cruz Subaru. When I've worked with them with my mods, they wanted me to remove the modded parts that they had to handle directly. In my case, that was everything because I blew the engine. In your case, that could be nothing - but if your engine is screwed, they might ask you to put your engine bay at least back to stock. Small price to pay for what sounds like will be a straight-forward warrenty job done. Just call the main line (831) 420 1500 (I have them on speed dial ) and ask to talk to one of the guys in the service department.

Oh in case you didn't get my drift from the above statements - Subaru Sant Cruz rocks!
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Old 12-16-2002, 09:34 PM   #4
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thats a pretty scary story.. i can't even fathom about what i would do in that situation. would it be a good idea to kill the engine and just let it coast? i just have no idea and hope that never happens to anyone else. be careful in the rain guys and gals..
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Old 12-16-2002, 09:49 PM   #5
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Scary story
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Old 12-16-2002, 10:38 PM   #6
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thats a pretty scary story.. i can't even fathom about what i would do in that situation. would it be a good idea to kill the engine and just let it coast?
Yes, quite scary. It's actually much scarier now that I look back on it. I was really pretty calm when it happened. I was more pissed off that I'd have to get out in the rain to un-jam the cable, and then pissed off again when I started it up and heard the wretched clanking.

And yeah, if you have the room to stop, killing your engine is the thing to do. Just remember you will lose your power brakes and power steering. And if you put the key in the off position you could also inadvertently lock your steering wheel. Just think slowly and the right thing to do should come to you.

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Old 12-16-2002, 11:52 PM   #7
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hey wackie i know your from sac but i wouldnt recommend any local dealerships just the fact that there NOT MOD FRIENDLY, if i were you id go to subaru of santa cruz and ask for mark he's a nice guy and will take care of you if you have mods or not ...
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Old 12-17-2002, 02:49 AM   #8
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Yes, quite scary. It's actually much scarier now that I look back on it. I was really pretty calm when it happened. I was more pissed off that I'd have to get out in the rain to un-jam the cable, and then pissed off again when I started it up and heard the wretched clanking.

And yeah, if you have the room to stop, killing your engine is the thing to do. Just remember you will lose your power brakes and power steering. And if you put the key in the off position you could also inadvertently lock your steering wheel. Just think slowly and the right thing to do should come to you.

JD
Just to clarify for anybody perhaps in the dark - wackie means if you must shut down your engine while moving, you must return your key to the 'on' position so the ignition comes back on you know the position right before 'start' on the ignition? There. Your oil, ABS, airbag and couple other lights should come on, but your engine will be stopped. Just like he said, if you leave the key in the off position your steering wheel may lock and you will go in the direction it happens to be pointing. I have firsthand experience with this, my idiot friends were driving my Mum's 84 Mitsubishi Sigma, were still going about 30mph down a curvy road when the keys got pulled out of the ignition from the off position - we went over the bank and down into some trees at 30mph - it was incredibly scary
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Old 12-17-2002, 05:00 AM   #9
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Another vote for Santa Cruz.

They'll probably be eager to make you happy so you don't sue subaru for almost killing you.
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Old 12-17-2002, 12:07 PM   #10
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Damn, dude. I'm glad you're OK.
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Old 12-17-2002, 03:44 PM   #11
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They'll probably be eager to make you happy so you don't sue subaru for almost killing you.
Now THERE is a bargaining chip to have when they try to deny warranty work!!! Go get 'em!

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Old 12-17-2002, 05:37 PM   #12
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Subaru of Santa Cruz said they'd look at it. But I have to put the stock parts back on so they don't get in trouble since half the stuff on there is illegal for street use. I can live with that.
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