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Old 12-22-2002, 07:50 PM   #1
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Default Meguiars wax? turtle?

My car needs waxing and some detailing, Is meguiars any good? there is a box set in target for 25 it looks like a good deal (with liquid wax, soap, tire, leather, etc), But also there is a turtle wax with color, and also comes with a chipstick for deep chips in the paint, and I have some, would this work? or is it just lies?

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Old 12-22-2002, 08:18 PM   #2
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Personally I like Meguiars. I have used a lot of other stuff and Meguiars always seems to produce a better shine. I use the gold class wax on my MY98 Black.


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Old 12-22-2002, 08:19 PM   #3
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Meguiers all the way. I do use the Mother's Clay bar though.


Full_Clip doesn't know if Meguiers has its own clay bar.
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Old 12-22-2002, 09:02 PM   #4
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"clay bar" Sorry for the basic question, but what is this? what does it do?
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Old 12-22-2002, 09:50 PM   #5
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"clay bar" Sorry for the basic question, but what is this? what does it do?
It removes imperfections from the paint prior to waxing. Makes the paint as smooth as a baby's butt. I'm a Griot's Garage man, personally.

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Old 12-22-2002, 09:56 PM   #6
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Meguiers all the way. I do use the Mother's Clay bar though.


Full_Clip doesn't know if Meguiers has its own clay bar.
i concur. but lately time is short for me and i've resorted to using meguier's cleaner/wax instead. i should be okay until the summertime when weather is better and i have more time to work outside (i have no garage!)...
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Old 12-23-2002, 09:29 AM   #7
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Have used and liked Meguiars for years. The clay bar with the Quick Detailer as the lubricant is easy and removes the embedded dirt, followed by the paint cleaner gets her back to looking original (my '99). Remember thay if you choose to clay bar you should first wash car with dishwashing soap(Dawn - blue color) to get all the old wax off first. I then finish off with 3M scratch and swirl remover (they have light & dark versions). Last 2 thin coats of Meguiars Classic paste. After that it's just a Quick Detailer touch up or their yellow wax. I rewax with the classic around the time I do oil changes (3000 miles).
The turtle color stick does very little and comes off at the next wash. Been there done that.
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Old 12-23-2002, 06:17 PM   #8
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meguairs all the way, i used turtle wax once in my life and it was the worst choice i have ever made. i had the stuff on for 4 months and you can see the stuff pretty much drip off when it rains, and it really didn't give a nice shine. meguairs on the other hand is good, i am happy with it, nothing like zaino but i don't really use 4 coats of wax
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Old 12-23-2002, 06:27 PM   #9
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I don't like the liquid waxes. Maybe they're better, but Maguiers paste wax works best for me.
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Old 12-23-2002, 07:06 PM   #10
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I have always used the "liquid glass" wax paste...it's $14 for a can. It's an oval can. Works pretty good. It has an old red vette on the bottle in the front.


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Old 12-24-2002, 01:51 AM   #11
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meguiars is good stuff... but if you have the money go for zaino... its greaaat stuff
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Old 12-24-2002, 03:10 AM   #12
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check out www.autopia.org or www.properautocare.com .

You will find a TON of good info about different types of waxes/sealants/glazes etc.

I personally use Meguiars right now because I am out of money. I will be moving to Blackfire in the near future.
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Old 12-24-2002, 08:52 AM   #13
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I had an old honda Prelude that I did a wax comparisson on once: Meguiars 3-step v. Turtle wax v. Mothers. I did different sections fo the car with each (hood, trunk, roof), and used the turtle and mothers 3 times so that Meguiars wouldn't automatically win by mechanical action. All of the ladies that I solicited for opinions agreed that the Turtle wax looked the best, but I can't say anything about how long it lasted because I wasn't that interested. The paint on the honduh was also pretty old.

As far as clay bars, I much prefer Mothers. The Meguairs clay bar that I had just sort of smeared all over the car. When I used the money back guarantee (with they honored 100%, btw) the man on the phone said that they were reformulating it, so the ones out now might be better.
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Old 12-24-2002, 08:57 AM   #14
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Thumbs up Meguiars = Thumbs up!

Meguiars is the shiznek! I use it for my silver WRX and love how it shines and makes it all glow and purrrrrtttttyyyy! So for my part, I recommend it... of course make sure you wash the car real good first before applying wax/polish, etc. (duh)

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Old 12-24-2002, 11:41 AM   #15
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Only one mentioned it so far, Zaino I really like if you really want an ultra shine. Once you get the first pocess accomplished and get the shine you want, it's a breeze to maintain. It seems to be the best defense against bird bombs too.
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Old 12-24-2002, 06:24 PM   #16
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Thanks for your answer and links.

Now one more question, since my car when parked always gets a lot of sun in the back, the rear bumper (plastic) is losing it's color, you can really tell the difference from the paint. Is there any product to help keep the color, or restore the plastic parts (bumper)? since wax and stuff like that can't be used there.
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Old 12-25-2002, 10:34 AM   #17
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Zaino can be used on plastic and has UVT protection. Does a great job on the cheap plastic of the bumper guard, it's not a wax.
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Old 12-27-2002, 05:06 PM   #18
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Zaino can be used on plastic and has UVT protection
Where can I find this? any auto parts store? what's the name? since is not the wax.
Thanks
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:51 AM   #19
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www.zainobros.com

If you want something VERY similar, but slightly cheaper try Blackfire. You can get it on www.properautocare.com . A step down from that would be something like Platinum Ultimate Paint Protection (made into the affectionate acronym PUPP).
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Old 12-28-2002, 10:44 PM   #20
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anyone here use zymol? the real stuff and not the turtlewax branded version. it produces some amazing results but doesn't seem to stay on the car as long as i'd like. so i mainly use it for concours. many of the bmw/porsche folks use it.

for everyday driving, i use blitz which seems to produces a similar shine but lasts longer.
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Old 12-28-2002, 11:29 PM   #21
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Real Zymol is a pain in the butt to work with, and the shine doesn't last as long as the hassle factor. I like the Griot's Garage stuff because it gives a nice, deep, satin shine rather than the artificial-looking (IMHO) glaze of some of the other waxes.

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Old 12-29-2002, 02:55 AM   #22
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The difference between real Zymol and Zurtle (the Turtle Wax supplied Zymol in stores) is really not significant enough to justify its price, IMO. Zurtle works pretty damn well and lasts longer than the real stuff. Also, Zurtle has some cleaning ability, whereas real Zymol wax has none, thus making mandatory a thorugh paint cleaning/polish layer. Optically, I really could not tell that much of a difference between Zymol and Zurtle, at least not enough to tell that one was more expensive than the other. And I must agree... real Zymol is quite a pain to work with. Zurtle is easier to use, but it buffs off with a ton of dust due to the fillers and cleaning agents. Your results may vary...

Someday, I'm gonna get some Souveran to see if it really is worth the money...
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