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Old 12-27-2002, 05:23 PM   #1
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Wink Vishnu Stage 1 Impression?

Hi, I am very interested in the Vishnu Stage 1 kit; I want to hear wut you guys think. Is it worth the money?

Also, if anyone of you already has it installed, please share your opinion with me.

I did a search however I couldn't find any related topic about this.

Your opinion will help many ppl, please share with us. Thank you and Happy New Year!
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Old 12-27-2002, 07:06 PM   #2
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Buy it, you'll be happy.
The exhaust system is very nice work and perfect fitment.
The folks at Vishnu are good, friendly people that want you to be happy with your car. Get the Ecutek reflash and the silicon hoses option too.
Your car will fly and you wont have to deal with any piggyback poopoo.
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Old 12-27-2002, 08:44 PM   #3
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I have the stage 0 and running with the other 2 cats, I'm also in the progress of upgrading my turbo back, but I'm not sure what to get, I know the price for Vishnu's is a little high, but I'm so happy with my stage 0 that I'm sure that it could be as good. There are so many options and combinations but I rather go for the sure thing although is higher in prize.

I currently have the Unichip that came with the kit, but I've heard so much about the ECU reflash but I don't really find an direct answer, could anybody explain to me what it is? will I loose my Unichip?

Thanks for your help and pardon my ignorance.....

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Old 12-27-2002, 08:47 PM   #4
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love it - have no problems with piggyback poopoo but Im still waiting for emi adapter maybe I can justify a reflash after its been in for 6 mos. or so

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Old 12-28-2002, 08:54 AM   #5
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I currently have the Unichip that came with the kit, but I've heard so much about the ECU reflash but I don't really find an direct answer, could anybody explain to me what it is? will I loose my Unichip?
The ECU reflash programs the factory ECU to behave properly with the modifications you have done to your car.
You no longer need the Unichip.
It behaves better than the Unichip.
You don't need an MBC either as the ECU controls the factory boost solonoid/
If you read through the Ecutek reflash thread you should get all your questions answered.
If not, call Vishnu
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Old 12-29-2002, 04:20 AM   #6
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Eh...No one actully has stage 1 installed....?
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Old 12-29-2002, 07:13 AM   #7
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heh, I was the first reply.
Let me just be clear..
I have a stage 1 installed.
I have the Ecutek reflash option, no MBC, no Unichip.
I am happy.
You too can be happy.
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Old 12-29-2002, 10:44 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by mikkyo
heh, I was the first reply.
Let me just be clear..
I have a stage 1 installed.
I have the Ecutek reflash option, no MBC, no Unichip.
I am happy.
You too can be happy.
I got the same deal.....

It's fricken awesome!

I am totally satisfied. I am actually making a little more power than with the unichip. I dyno'ed at 205 at the wheels with the unichip, and 210 at the wheels with the ECUTECK reflash. That's with the stock IC pipes.
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Old 12-29-2002, 09:39 PM   #9
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Oh sweet! Sorry I didn't understand you guys before.

I wonder if stage 1 can co-exist with:
1. 100% vent BOV
2. Any short ram intake

Will it lose power if these 2 were pre-installed?
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Old 12-29-2002, 10:32 PM   #10
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Oh sweet! Sorry I didn't understand you guys before.

I wonder if stage 1 can co-exist with:
1. 100% vent BOV
2. Any short ram intake

Will it lose power if these 2 were pre-installed?
venting the BOV to atmosphere is a bad idea. It attracts the wrong kind of attention, you know, the kind with the rotating blue lights...
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Old 12-30-2002, 12:59 AM   #11
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No buddy, VTEC and loud ass muffler attract pandas.

To me, BOV sound is very important, it's part of the fun only from turbo cars. Or I would just simply buy a equally powerful and more reliable V6.

About my previous questions, I wish maybe Vishunu would answer me too.....
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Old 12-30-2002, 12:04 PM   #12
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I suggest against installing any intake kits with any of our stages. You will loose power and/or safety margin by doing so due to MAF misreadings. At atmos. venting BOV won't make the car unsafe but it will degrade drivability and partial-throttle performance.

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Old 12-30-2002, 02:41 PM   #13
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BOV's attract more attention than improve anything signifigant. they sound killer, end up making your A/F mix rich. CAI's look good when the hood is up, but they will lean out the A/F mix. if power is what you are looking for, follow the advice of experts like shiv. if turning heads are what you are into, bolt on a BOV and get a grapefruit launcher.

seriously, if you want to hear BOV and spool, do the snorkel/silencer removal and keep the stock air box. the point is that the real gains will come from proper tuning and part spec for your project --- uppipe, downpipe, engine management. the $750 you pay vishnu for the ECU reflash ( once the proper mods are in place, up/dp ) will put a bigger smile on your face than a BOV, CAI, or fart pipe.
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Old 12-30-2002, 03:01 PM   #14
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I wonder if stage 1 can co-exist with:
1. 100% vent BOV
2. Any short ram intake
It can, but I wouldn't do it.
The short ram will reduce performance over the stock air box.
The BOV will give partial throttle problems.
Go with the silencer removal if you want to hear blow off.
Listen to Shiv, he knows his stuff and has a nice dyno to prove power losses.

But you can still do 1 + 2 if you want, but my car and ChrisW's will be faster than yours.
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Old 12-30-2002, 06:47 PM   #15
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Oh cool, thanks for all the input guys. I really have no interest for the CAI (CAI = BS for turbo?), only the short ram. However, after hear from you guys, maybe I shouldn’t get a short ram after all.

Currently I have the Blitz BOV and stock intake silencer removed. After the silencer removed, maybe it's my imagination but I felt the cars runs slower then b4 when I only had the bov. Oh well, maybe everything will be cleared once I have the chance to have my car dyno tuned at Shiv's place

Shiv, another question about stage 1:
1. Is it possible to pick the muffler I like (ex. HKS titanium)and weided to your turbo back exhaust? If so, how much I should expect?

It has nothing to do with the performence or sound, just I always want a N-1 style muffler.

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Old 12-30-2002, 07:37 PM   #16
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I suggest against installing any intake kits with any of our stages. You will loose power and/or safety margin by doing so due to MAF misreadings. At atmos. venting BOV won't make the car unsafe but it will degrade drivability and partial-throttle performance.

My 2c,
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Just a thought:

BOV is totally not necessary for low boost setting. However once the car is heavily charged (like over 20 or 25psi) then it will be better to vent the pressure to atmosphere instead of recirculate them.


Is this true?

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