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Old 05-29-2001, 01:04 PM   #1
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yup...a cold air intake is a great mod. I got mine from Larry (aka the GanzFlow ). Last time I was at the dealer, they said nothing about it and actually reprogrammed my ECU for me. And guess what, you will feel a difference between stock and an aftermarket intake.
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Old 05-29-2001, 01:07 PM   #2
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Thanks for the info. Is it really as easy to put on as I've read. Will I notice much difference?
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Old 05-29-2001, 01:08 PM   #3
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Doh.. I was typing when you replied Norris.
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Old 05-29-2001, 02:02 PM   #4
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GanzFlow all the way man!

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Old 05-29-2001, 02:39 PM   #5
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Yeah Ganzflow...the only choice
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Old 05-29-2001, 02:50 PM   #6
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Regarding ease of install... I put mine on in about 30-40 minutes. All you do is unbolt the stock plastic intake, then use some hose clamps and silicone couplers (included in the kit) to attach the GanzFlow pipe. Couldn't be easier.

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Old 05-29-2001, 02:54 PM   #7
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30-40min? It took less than 10min to take the stock intake out and put the Ganzflow in. Plus the hour and a half to reset the ecu.

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Old 05-29-2001, 02:56 PM   #8
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My RS does make a nice sound now, it has better throttle response, and more power too.

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Old 05-29-2001, 06:09 PM   #9
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I recommend PRM(Cobb) intake, although the price is on the high side, you get what you pay for ~ http://prmracing.com/products.html
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Old 05-29-2001, 08:36 PM   #10
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Ganzflow!!!!!!! Save the stock intake mess and re-install it before dealer visits if they are not mod-friendly
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Old 05-30-2001, 12:15 AM   #11
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I was lucky enough to get my hands on a 2000 Impreza RS 2.5 Coupe at the end of last year. Literally actually, it was the last day of the year that the dealer was open. And I have to say I love it! It rocks, I didn't even test drive anything else. If I hadn't gotten it when I did, I would probably be driving something else because I'm still not sure whether I like the new body style or not.

Anyways, enough of the Scooby promo, I am looking to get a whole bunch of things for it. Mostly suspension so I don't void any warranty. I am looking at a cold air intake. Would that void my warranty? And I know very little about engines, but I figure its not good to get water in the air intake. It rains a lot where I live, and snows and sometimes it actually even gets sunny. I am wondering if this a cold air intake is ok when you live in a fairly humid/wet climate?

Thanks for any info.

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Old 05-30-2001, 12:50 AM   #12
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hi there!
i had an open intake on my GT and currently have an intake on my RS...

i live in the Seattle area and have had no ill effects from the intake systems...

warranty...
the dealer cannot void your warranty... only SOA can do that.. and in order to do that they must PROVE that the aftermarket part caused the fault in your vehicle...

i had a whole short block replaced in my last car and they never even made mention of the intake...

i would say it's a pretty safe mod and that you'll have no issues in doing it.

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Old 05-30-2001, 09:08 AM   #13
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If I go with the Ganzflow, should I go with the K&N or AMSOIL filters?
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Old 06-02-2001, 10:43 PM   #14
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I would hold off a little while, there is a new intake about to hit the market. It just got Dyno tested today, and the numbers are impressive.
With a MagnaFlow muffler and Denso Iridium spark plugs, the intake produced 20HP and 30 foot-pounds of torque more than stock. It was a prototype and will be ready for production very soon. The dyno numbers will be published as soon as I can get them onto the web. But peak was up to 185.4HP and 196.3 foot-pounds of torque.
Pricing will be more than a Weapon-R and less than Cobb... More info to come later. I will be posting this info in the NW forum under Dyno results... Thanks,
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Old 06-02-2001, 11:37 PM   #15
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The results of my dyno runs can be seen at WRX World Cya,
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Old 06-03-2001, 10:39 PM   #16
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Hi Gary,

I'm almost sorry I couldn't discount my intakes for you more than I did, so you'd be selling them instead yours

BTW, I loved the Denso plugs I got from till I fouled them last week with a bad spark plug wire, bad coil pack and fouled O2 sensor. I might be calling you...

Regarding intakes. I noticed that the numbers you mentioned are "corrected numbers", and nobody can agree on what the drivetrain loses are on an Impreza. UPRD gets about 98 hp to the wheels on their 4wd dyno, Altered Atmosphere 4WD gets about 124hp at the wheels, and COBB tuning got about 128hp on a 2WD dyno when they converted an RS to RWD.

At high altitude, the 4WD dyno in Boulder colorado shows a stock 2000 RS at about 93-95hp at the wheels, and 98-99hp with a JCS intake, I was told. Another 2WD dyno in denver shows about 98hp at the wheels on a stock RS, and about 75 hp for a 1.8L (about 150hp on that 1.8 after turbo).

Do you have the "wheel" hp on this combination of mods you tested? Did you test the intake with stock exhaust? Did you do a baseline hp test before any mods? Just curious.

Also, you stated you also had a Magnaflow muffler and Denso iridium plugs, and then right after that attributed the 20hp/30ftlb increase to the intake. I wanted to clarify that is the gain with the intake/exhaust together, which is nice. I wonder if changing only the intake while exhaust is stock will show those gains.

I think that when the intake is added that the gains may appear more dramatic when you have a modified exhaust, because there is one less bottleneck to deal with. I say this because the previous V4 2.5" GanzFlow raised top speed on a particular road at 6,000 feet from 120 to 126mph with stock exhaust, the Stromung catback and GanzFlow combined took it to 132mph on the same stretch with the same weather (5,850 rpm). But, the Stromung alone was only good for about 123mph with stock intake. The results were not cumulative - one might have predicted a 6 mph gain plus a 3 mph gain = 9 mph if used together, and it was much more. I think the stock intake holds back the exhaust's potential, and the stock exhaust to some degree holds back the intake's potential as well.

None of this is bashing, you know that from your experience with me. I have never dyno'd the ganzFlow because a stock RS up here at 6,000 feet is showing under 100hp at the wheels, and besides I feel the intake has more gains from moving through the air at speed than it would on the dyno. However, a RoadDyno test was done and showed as much as a 9 hp gain with the GanzFlow by itself. This is a dynamic dyno that uses acceleration rates and weight to calculate power, so the car is moving about 50mph at the end of the test and getting plenty of cool air into the inner fender. Comparisons between mods are valid for this kind of dyno, but I don't know how well it correlates with wheel HP from other dynos either.

<IMG SRC="http://www.imprezars.com/images/combineddyno.gif" border=0>

There have been a few people with modified airboxes to make the intake inlet 3", and they found even more gains with the GanzFlow intake. I have some postings archived at www.imprezars.com/images/modifiedganzflow.zip and will have the parts for sale very soon. I have already ordered all the parts, and am having the buynow form modified to accept the new option for stage II airbox mod. It will be a $44.95 option when bought with an intake, or $49.95 when shipped seperately. This mod will work with the 2000-2002 GanzFlow, the new 3" 2000-2002 Legacy/Forester intakes that I sell, and the older 2.5" Larry's cold air intakes.

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Old 06-04-2001, 12:16 AM   #17
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I don't want to confuse the issue Larry. So let me clarify, we did a base run with my stock air box minus the snorkus assembly, and the MagnaFlow, and Denso plugs. That run gave us 170.8HP and 185.3ft/lbs. Then directly after we swapped out the stock air box for our set up,(while everyone watched)Then ran again, second run gave us the 185.4HP and 196.3ft/lbs. So with the mods I have it gave us 14.6HP and 12.9ft/lbs gain over the stock air box. The next time I go to the dyno I plan on taking one of your intakes, a Weapon-R, and maybe a Cobb intake. I want to know how I stack up. We have been working on this design for several months, and are very pleased with the results we got. But we still want more. I am not saying that my stuff is better than anybody else's, just putting the numbers out there. Because, like yourself, I believe in my products. I have driven a car with your intake and noticed the difference over my car with the stock air box. Thanks for pointing out the need for clarification in my previous post.
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Old 06-04-2001, 12:27 AM   #18
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Let's try this.
Stock air box 1st run
<IMG SRC="http://wrxworld.com/dyno/25RS_StockBox_Gary.jpg" border=0>
Custom air box 2nd run

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Old 06-05-2001, 01:01 AM   #19
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May I offer a few more clarifications and requests God I hope this doesn't sound like a pissing match - it really isn't, I like Gary and he is very professional from what I have seen And, yes, I am very proud of my intakes.

(1) I see your dyno charts there, and the 14.6hp/12.9 ftlb gain is real. But, you compared your intake to a stock airbox that had NO intake tubing. According to my observations, removing the stock intake tubing and running the airbox with NO INTAKE attached will LOSE power while only making more noise.

i.e. (1)Top speed at 6,000 feet (where I live and drive) was 120mph stock. (2)Then with an older 2.5" Ganzflow intake and Stromung catback installed the top speed went to 132mph at 5,850rpm. (3)Then I removed the Stromung and the top speed only dropped to 126mph with GanzFlow, still 6 mph faster than stock. (4)Then we tried it without any intake attached to the airbox, and with stock exhaust, and it only ran 115mph with NO INTAKE tubing. This was 5mph slower than stock. After returning the car to stock, I got my turbo that weekend and couldn't do more testing (unless you can call redline in 5th an anal sphincter test). Weather conditions on the same deserted road were the same for each test.

The point is that removing the stock intake tubing before a dyno test seems to possibly handicap the car's baseline results, if the above observations are valid. Just sharing that observation.

(2) I can't seem to edit this next point to be as clear or as short as I'd like, but here I go. For the viewers out there, I have remind them that we are not trying to compare results between the two different dynos.

First of all, they both correct for drivetrain losses, giving an "estimate" for crank HP, because we don't know which dyno's correction factor is right.

Secondly, as I pointed out before, even several "wheel hp" dynos don't agree on output between themselves. Therefore, The GanzFlow's 159hp and Gary's 185hp might be the same at the wheels, if the correction factors had been the same or if they were on the same dyno.

Lastly, the dyno's we used for the test operate under vastly different conditions that cannot be replicated between each other. My test was with a Road Dyno http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/roaddyno/dyno.htm which is based on how well the car accelerates with a known vehicle weight, usually tested during acceleration in only one gear. So, my gross HP numbers may be off by some degree if the vehicle plus driver weight is not accurately estimated or measured and entered into the Road Dyno. But, the 9HP sum difference between stock HP and the modified HP is likely very valid (on the same dyno, car and conditions). What I like about this Road Dyno is that if cold air moving through the inner fender helps the intake produce more power, then it will show more gains on a road dyno at 50mph than on a stationary dyno with a 15mph fan blowing on it, which is what I'd want to prove! From the Road Dyno, we already know that while the car is moving that the GanzFlow makes as much as 9hp more, so if it doesn't make as much power when stationary it won't really matter to us...

Most other dyno's are based upon how fast the car can accelerate a rolling drum of a precise known weight, while the car is stationary; so the only variable for Gary is what percent drivetrain losses they are assuming to "estimate" crank HP. In conclusion, neither my "Road Dyno" results nor Gary's results are "wheel HP" - and while we can compare "stock vs mods" on my dyno, or we can compare stock vs mods on Gary's dyno tests - the two dynos can't be compaired to each other. Agreed?

3) I am sure you can be scientific and objective about testing the intakes. But if you do test your intake, the GanzFlow, a COBB and a Weapon-R on the same dyno, please be sure to do it on the same car and on the same day like before, with a baseline run performed on the car WITH a stock intake in place (not just the airbox). And also please use a high flow air filter in the stock airbox when you test mine (I only like to sell without hi-flow air filters to people who already have one). It should be fine if you want to test with magnaflow and denso plugs in place, although a basline totally stock dyno run would have been nice.

I realise it is probably not feasable to try testing the GanzFlow with the Stage II airbox upgrade (that we announced in December but only just released this week), if you don't want to cut up an airbox to install the new 3" inlet. (See http://www.imprezars.com/images/modifiedganzflow.zip ) We planned to build new rear sections of an airbox with 3" inlet that were ready to ship, but the person doing the job has been missing for weeks

Take care and good luck with everything.

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Hello all -
I would like some clarification on the "stock airbox" as tested in the 1st dyno chart.
Is this just a stock intake with a snorektomy (I think so), or is all the intake plumbing gone from the 1st airbox ("torque box")to the fender- as Larry was refering to?

And Larry, you say you actually lost power with the intake plumbing gone.... do mean you lost power (top speed) after doing a snorketomy?? or after removing ALL the plumbing from the 1st airbox to the fender - essentially leaving only the 1st airbox in place, pulling hot air from the center of the engine bay??

Please clarify - -as my snorketomy, along with removing the 2.7" restrictor between the small filter box and fender well, has given me a noticable gain in the ass-dyno.

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Gary, you got a picture on what that intake would look like? I'm about to get the Cobb Intake. You gonna keep me waiting? hehehe..
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confused... 165 HP stock right, 165 lb/ft stock torque right...? plus n amount of drivertrain loss... now your results:

First run was with stock air box
Max HP: 170.8 at 5500 RPM
Max Torque: 183.4 at 3750 RPM

so what this is saying is that, theres more than 5.8 HP increase (remember n amount of drivetrain loss) and a gain of more than 8.4 lb/ft (also, drivetrain loss) with only a backbox and intake silencer removed? that seems like a pretty great increase for a muffler which is usually, on these boards, regarded as more of a stylistic enhancement rather than power...

donno, no perf. mods yet, but that's quite dramatic results as compared to the postings ive read over the 8-9 months ive been reading these boards.

hmm... nevermind, i just read the note about corrections for parasitic loss, sounds good, any pictures or things to keep us waiting?

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farfrumgerman - "Snorkestomy" doesn't apply here since it is the MY99 and older that people do the snorkestomy in the inner fender to get cold air intakes.

This is the MY2000+ we are discussing here, and if you look at the other posts about this on iclub and www.wrxworld.com it says that the dyno #1 from subystyle was with no intake tubing attached to the airbox at the ack of the motor. You can't run a MY99 and older without an intake.

And yes, I measurably lost power with as you said, "removing ALL the plumbing from the 1st airbox to the fender - essentially leaving only the 1st airbox in place, pulling hot air from the center of the engine bay"

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Larry,
I am actually planning on going back to do more testing, and I plan on doing a better base run test.(including the entire snorkus)
If we do test these intakes back to back they WILL be tested on the same car.
I want real numbers, to promote my products with, not just hype and trumped up claims. On another note, elemental wrote about being confused on the numbers for just a muffler. The thing people are(I feel)forgetting or discounting is the Denso spark plugs. I am also planning on testing them against a new set of NGK's. Import Tuner(the mag) has published dyno results from the plugs, showing a small HP increase and an increase in torque by almost 11ft/lbs(IIRC). I plan on finding this out for myself.
I don't feel this is a "pissing" contest, I am just as anxious to find out how my intake figures stack up against yours and everyone else's, in the real world.
Just for more clarification, all the dyno runs were done in fourth gear from 45mph to 95mph. The dyno was a Mustang 4-wheel Dynomometer. I also plan on getting some wheel HP numbers too. There are no pictures as of yet, that secrecy thing you know... Thank you all very much, the wait won't be that long.
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Thanks for the answers Larry. That sounds more like it... and it would seem that removing ALL the plumbing would hurt performance - (if nothing else it just pulls HOT air..)

Looking forward to seeing what this secret intake is comprised of... and how it would work on a MAF Subie.

I've got plans of my own though. I know a small shop in Broomfield that does mandrel bends, but I don't know their capacity for larger tube sizes? - I used to have them do odd jobs for my previous employer - and I am going to see what they can make for me to replace the plumbing from the throttle-body to the MAF/stock fender airbox - a custom J-Bend. The GT's have a 'torque box' that is much smaller than the RS and is a sealed unit... ie. it has no extra filter.

I'll see what happens by the end of June with the Compass intake...

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