Borla headers instal, Questions

Fish · 05-30-2001, 09:40 AM

I just got the borla gen III headers today.

I am just checking to see if there are any gaskets that are needed or does everything just bolt right on to the engine with out the use of gaskets?

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8Complex · 05-30-2001, 09:42 AM

IIRC, you're supposed to use the stock gaskets. Haven't done a set myself tho.

dirk.gecko · 05-30-2001, 09:52 AM

Nemind...I'm stoopid.

[This message has been edited by dirk.gecko (edited May 30, 2001).]

Pete Holt · 05-30-2001, 09:59 AM

Spend $20 at your local Subaru dealer and buy some new gaskets because the old ones will not seal very well and then the exhaust will sound like crap.

Eric Gagnon · 05-30-2001, 11:20 AM

Yeah go get some new gaskets for the headers. Remember when Mark and i installed our at the garage day? Well we put new ones next to the block and i resused my cat-header gasket only to listen to it leak. It was a bitch to replace it after the fact. Oh and check the bolts after a day or two. I lost two of the nuts off the headers driving from the garage day back to NY.

Eric

anerd · 05-30-2001, 11:44 AM

be nice to get bolts like stage 8 bolts (can't move more than 1/8 a turn, after the little stops are put in)

m750 · 05-30-2001, 01:50 PM

I told you fishy, don't worry about it I'l take care of them for ya...
(put em on my car)

cminch · 05-30-2001, 02:24 PM

thanks for the advice there, I've got the headers coming in a few days. I'll swing by the local garage and get some gaskets for the exhaust. SPO said the headers are in stock but he cat backs are backordered. think it's safe to put the headers on first, then cat back later, or should I just wait and do it all at once.

just curious
-craig

cminch · 05-30-2001, 02:25 PM

thanks for the advice there, I've got the headers coming in a few days. I'll swing by the local garage and get some gaskets for the exhaust. SPO said the headers are in stock but he cat backs are backordered. think it's safe to put the headers on first, then cat back later, or should I just wait and do it all at once.

just curious
-craig

Fish · 05-30-2001, 08:18 PM

The headers went on fine.

just the rusted pissed off bolts on the existing stuff we're a challenge.

I did as you said and got new gaskets.

the gaskets off the block were actually verging on useable.. but the gasket off the cat was shot.

the idle is a little rough and uneven sounding.. I guess "putt putt" is how you could describe it.
overall it didn't get louder, just a ton deeper sounding.

there is a noticable benifit at mid-top end. I've zero'd out the S-afc and I'm going to start re-tuning that with the new setup.

all and all.. I like it.
waiting to get pulled over now for the exhaust.

inpreza kid · 05-30-2001, 10:09 PM

Fishguy i was wondering how long do you wait after the ECU reset till you start retuning your S-AFC?

Fish · 05-30-2001, 10:12 PM

I reset it.. then zero'd it.. drove for a little..

then started monkeying with it again, not an overly scientific process.. it never is with me.

Fish · 05-31-2001, 01:32 PM

I've got an intake, headers, catback.. and it runs rich, signifigantly

GooseMan · 06-01-2001, 12:09 AM

Why do you have the S-AFC? I thought MY00's and up didnt need it beacuse of our MAP?? right?

Jon

05-30-2001, 09:40 AM	#1
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Pete Holt NASIOC Supporter Member#: 12 Join Date: Jun 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Appleton, WI Vehicle: 2005 M3 Mystic Blue	Spend $20 at your local Subaru dealer and buy some new gaskets because the old ones will not seal very well and then the exhaust will sound like crap.

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Eric Gagnon Scooby Newbie Member#: 46 Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Vehicle: 2001 Jetta 1.8T White	Yeah go get some new gaskets for the headers. Remember when Mark and i installed our at the garage day? Well we put new ones next to the block and i resused my cat-header gasket only to listen to it leak. It was a bitch to replace it after the fact. Oh and check the bolts after a day or two. I lost two of the nuts off the headers driving from the garage day back to NY. Eric

05-30-2001, 11:44 AM	#6
anerd Scooby Newbie Member#: 2631 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Vehicle: 2001 2.5 RS Sedan Blue	be nice to get bolts like stage 8 bolts (can't move more than 1/8 a turn, after the little stops are put in)

05-30-2001, 01:50 PM	#7
m750 Scooby Guru Member#: 2278 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Pepperell MA Vehicle: 8Sti \| 07 allez White \| Comp	I told you fishy, don't worry about it I'l take care of them for ya... (put em on my car)

05-30-2001, 02:24 PM	#8
cminch Scooby Newbie Member#: 2529 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NEOHIO Vehicle: 2001 Impreza RS BRP	thanks for the advice there, I've got the headers coming in a few days. I'll swing by the local garage and get some gaskets for the exhaust. SPO said the headers are in stock but he cat backs are backordered. think it's safe to put the headers on first, then cat back later, or should I just wait and do it all at once. just curious -craig

05-30-2001, 02:25 PM	#9
cminch Scooby Newbie Member#: 2529 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NEOHIO Vehicle: 2001 Impreza RS BRP	thanks for the advice there, I've got the headers coming in a few days. I'll swing by the local garage and get some gaskets for the exhaust. SPO said the headers are in stock but he cat backs are backordered. think it's safe to put the headers on first, then cat back later, or should I just wait and do it all at once. just curious -craig

05-30-2001, 08:18 PM	#10
Fish RIP Sirkbac Member#: 869 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua NH Vehicle: 1987 GPZ-750 TURBO 90' MX-5/11' DGM STi Sdn	The headers went on fine. just the rusted pissed off bolts on the existing stuff we're a challenge. I did as you said and got new gaskets. the gaskets off the block were actually verging on useable.. but the gasket off the cat was shot. the idle is a little rough and uneven sounding.. I guess "putt putt" is how you could describe it. overall it didn't get louder, just a ton deeper sounding. there is a noticable benifit at mid-top end. I've zero'd out the S-afc and I'm going to start re-tuning that with the new setup. all and all.. I like it. waiting to get pulled over now for the exhaust.

05-30-2001, 10:09 PM	#11
inpreza kid Scooby Specialist Member#: 3334 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada	Fishguy i was wondering how long do you wait after the ECU reset till you start retuning your S-AFC?

05-30-2001, 10:12 PM	#12
Fish RIP Sirkbac Member#: 869 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua NH Vehicle: 1987 GPZ-750 TURBO 90' MX-5/11' DGM STi Sdn	I reset it.. then zero'd it.. drove for a little.. then started monkeying with it again, not an overly scientific process.. it never is with me.

05-31-2001, 01:32 PM	#13
Fish RIP Sirkbac Member#: 869 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Nashua NH Vehicle: 1987 GPZ-750 TURBO 90' MX-5/11' DGM STi Sdn	I've got an intake, headers, catback.. and it runs rich, signifigantly

06-01-2001, 12:09 AM	#14
GooseMan Scooby Specialist Member#: 2462 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Los Angeles/Montreal Vehicle: 2012 Volvo S60 T5 2005 Triumph Sprint ST	Why do you have the S-AFC? I thought MY00's and up didnt need it beacuse of our MAP?? right? Jon