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Old 03-26-2001, 11:12 PM   #1
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Question Did I get ripped off on my NGK's?

Ok so instead of the copper NGKs I bought the platinums...Don't ask me why. I paid about $50 total after tax. Did I pay too much?
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Old 03-27-2001, 06:43 AM   #2
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Sounds high to me but I'm not positive. I put Bosch plats in the wife's Legacy OB mostly because I don't want to change them often. They cost just over 25 for the 4.

While we are on the subject, not to change it too much. Someone help me out here. If I understand it correctly, The only advantage to the Plats is longevity. You don't have to change them out nearly as often as the regular Cu NGK's. However the Copper plugs conduct better and give a little better performance. But with Cu you have to change them, what? yearly. That's what I do anyway. The thing is for around 1.50 to 2 bucks each yearly changes aren't that bad. FWIW when I changed my Copper NGK's out after a year they looked fine but the gap widened .05". I had them set at .40 and all went to .45 ish. Rather than just regap and clean them it's cheap enough just to put in new ones.

Comments, am I just being anal as usual?

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Old 03-27-2001, 07:45 AM   #3
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I believe you are correct, but one thing to remember about longevity... Platnum plugs can last a very long time. Too long, in my opinion, because you run into the real possibility of your plugs being frozen in the block, then when you need to change them, good luck!
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Old 03-27-2001, 08:20 AM   #4
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Uh, I bought a set Bosch Platinums (not the +4, the good ones ) for under $2 each at PepBoys.
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Old 03-27-2001, 08:27 AM   #5
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The NGK Hyper Platinums (or Super Platinums or something like that) cost me $13 each for my '97 2.5GT. That plug was the only plug listed in my Owner's Manual for the 2.5GT. There were a few plugs listed for the 2.2L Legacys. Don't worry, I know that other plugs will work in my 2.5GT, but I figured it's only money and I won't have to worry about them for another 50-60k miles.

Considering what a pain in the arse it is to change plugs on these cars, I think that in itself is worth it. I did discover when I had the car up on a lift that it might actually be easier to change the plugs from underneath the car - better access, no need to remove anything.

Anyway, the short answer for Jonathan is, "No, if you got the same plugs I did, you did not get screwed."

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Old 03-27-2001, 09:58 AM   #6
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I should have said that I got the Bosch +4's for 25 not the regular plats. I don't think it's all that hard to change the plugs. After the first time getting the boots off it's easy. I do use a liberal amount of Diletric grease on the plug top and boot plus a little anti-seize
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Old 03-28-2001, 08:04 AM   #7
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The proper NGK plugs (non platinum) for the 2.5 were 6 bux at pep boys.

IMHO, the only advantage to platinum plugs is longevity. You should, however, take the time every 30k to change the plugs, if only just to have a look and see how they are burning. You can tell a lot about your engine's condition from a plug.

Unfortunately, most platinum plugs are just a price grab by the plug makers. Your 50 dollars to the 6 dollars for the regulars. That's over 8 times the price. The question people should ask is do they last for 8 times the mileage. No. They only last about 3-4 times the mileage. No economic sense.

25 dollars seems more like it, if you are going to go the platinum way.

Jonathan- I am not cutting you up for choosing the platinums either. A lot of people buy them and a lot of people like them. I just think most people get taken price-wise because the makers hype them up as being so much better, when they aren't, necessarily.

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Old 03-28-2001, 08:24 AM   #8
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Ok changing the plugs were EASY. My cheap K-Mart brand socket set came with a big socket, which I assume is a spark plug socket coz inside the socket are rubber, and it holds onto the spark plugs firm and perfectly. I used that and 2 3" extensions.

Kyle, yeah I don't think they were worth the $50 and I agree with yoru point about them not lasting 8 times as much... Lesson learned.
But I don't have too much regrets.
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Old 03-28-2001, 08:44 AM   #9
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Glad to hear you got them changed ok. That's the most important part.

That rubberized socket is the way to go. Otherwise its impossible. Its more difficult to get the plugs out of the hole and also more difficult to get them in straight.

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