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Old 01-02-2003, 05:53 PM   #1
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Old 01-02-2003, 07:17 PM   #2
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Default Re: Dakar 2003

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Starts in one hour on Speed 7pm EST and shown again 9pm PST

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Glad they are rebroadcasting it at 9pm so I don't have to tape it.
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Old 01-02-2003, 07:32 PM   #3
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Woot woot! I just surfed to Speed and noticed it's on! Only missed half an hour.. :-/
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Old 01-03-2003, 12:15 AM   #4
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Ari Vatanen is THE MAN.
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Old 01-03-2003, 12:26 AM   #5
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Those trucks are such beasts.
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Old 01-03-2003, 01:24 AM   #6
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I have wanted to enter the Paris Dakar (aka Dakar) since 1984 when I bought my Mitsubishi Pajero (that's a Montero in the US due to the unfortunate meaning of the word Pajero here).

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Old 01-03-2003, 09:59 AM   #7
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the footage from the '80s was the best when they showed the 1200bhp truck blowing past a Puegot 405 T16 (Group B car for those that don't know). amazing.
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:24 AM   #8
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the footage from the '80s was the best when they showed the 1200bhp truck blowing past a Puegot 405 T16 (Group B car for those that don't know). amazing.
That was a sweet shot. Those truck drivers are nuts.

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Old 01-03-2003, 10:32 AM   #9
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Thumbs up Dakar 2003

The Dakar race is one of my favorites, along with the Isle of Man TT. I find these two races even more exciting than the WRC or SSCA rally racing. This year's Dakar has some really interesting vehicles:

• Quad racers! This is the first year, I believe that ATV racers are participating. Picture, if you will an all out quad-racer, with extra body armor, a huge fuel tank and a spare tire, and you pretty much get the idea.

• Mitsubishi SWB Pajaros (Monteros), as usual are very popular. I noticed at least one version with an almost Honda CRX-type body shape. It was a sharp looking racer.

• Nissan had several crew cab Frontier-based racers. One of which had IFS/IRS!

• There is a BMW X-5 racer.

• There is at least one Honda-power car racer.

• There is a Range Rover (chassis) with a Jaguar XJ body attached to it. Imagine a Jag sedan with 37" off-road tires!

• There is a VW Touareg racer. The only thing "Touareg" about it must be under the skin, because the body looks like a full-blown dune buggy. You would never recognize it as a Touareg. It does have the VW logo on it for ID purposes. This Touareg is being raced by Jutta Kleinschmidt who has won the Dakar race outright, in the past.

• There is a wild looking 2WD Ford-engined racer.

• Besides all the above, there are the usual motorcycles and huge trucks too.

It's got to be one of the nuttiest races ever conceived. I love it!!

I would love to see Subaru enter a race-prepared Baja in this event! Why the Baja? I think, for an event like this the Baja makes the most sense. Nissan uses their pickups (rather than SUVs) because the pickup bed makes for very easy access to all the extra spare tires they need to carry. The Subie Baja would have that same advantage.

It will be on again tonight, and probably for ever night thereafter, till it ends. The race started only a few days ago, so what you see on TV is almost current. Again, it's on the Speed Channel.

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Old 01-03-2003, 10:35 AM   #10
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There is a wild looking 2WD Ford-engined racer.
I think that is the newest Schlesser buggy.
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:37 AM   #11
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I think that is the newest Schlesser buggy.
I think you're right.

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Old 01-03-2003, 10:47 AM   #12
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Default Live coverage on WEB

Don't forget live coverage on the WEB.

Official DAKAR US English Site
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:51 AM   #13
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Yeah, I was just there. Cool site.
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Old 01-03-2003, 10:52 AM   #14
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don't forget about this fine site, from maker of rally-live.com

http://raid.racing-live.com/en/
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Old 01-03-2003, 11:13 AM   #15
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Minor correction re. the VW. It's not a Touareg, it's a Tarek.
The VW Tarek is a purpose built car for the Paris-Dakar. It's a carbon-kevlar body (designed by Giorgio-Giugiaro), 2.2m wide, 3.06m long and weighs 1,160kg (2,552lbs.).
The car is powered by a VW 1.9 liter 4 cylinder TDI (yup, that's a turbo diesel), which puts out 218PS and 390Nm.
The Tarek has rear wheel drive, and based on its performance so far, no brakes.
Pictures can be seen at:

http://www.rally-action.com/photo/2002/11/145/gallery.shtml
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Old 01-03-2003, 11:25 AM   #16
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it didn't look like the Touareg! I couldn't figure out for the life of me how they could have disguised the Touareg like that—or even why they would do so! Thanks for the clarification! BTW, I couldn't get your link to work.

Is this a factory effort? If so, I'm surprised they didn't take this opportunty to showcase their new Touareg?!

Also... I didn't see any Jeeps! In fact, I don't ever recall any Jeep vehicle being of any consequence in this race in the past.

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Old 01-03-2003, 11:29 AM   #17
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They said one of the quads has a Honda Fireblade engine, which I think is the equivalent to a CBR929RR. Good grief. That's something like 150hp+ in a quad.

Mitsubishi did a show car (or should I say truck) last year that got panned by the automotive styling press. Mitsu obviously didn't care, as the new Pajero Dakar carries most of the show car's styling cues. I think it looks pretty cool.

Does anyone know if Kia is running again?

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Old 01-03-2003, 12:04 PM   #18
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I'm surprised that there is not a factory-prepared Porsche Cayenne entered!? If ever there was an event to showcase that vehicle, this would be it.

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Old 01-03-2003, 01:26 PM   #19
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Anyone know if they're going to replay the first night's broadcast? I got distracted and didn't see much other than the first few minutes.
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Old 01-03-2003, 02:12 PM   #20
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Like rsholland said this is the best race I like to watch along with the Tour de France. F1, wrc etc are ok, just a little boring same cars etc. The Dakar has such a broad range of vehicles and cars, so many flavors.

The Shlesser has and is been an exotic entry, however his car has yet to finish many a Dakar. Some have called him a rich man playing. Ohh I could only dream

The Pugeros are wild, full tube space frame and cf body.

And the behemouth trucks cool.

My fav is easily the bikes, since that is my sport. Very tough race for them.
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Old 01-03-2003, 03:34 PM   #21
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Looks like SPEED TV will re-run Thurs, Fri, & Sat DAKAR shows Sunday 1/5, 12 - 2 pm est.
check www.speedtv.com

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Thank you kind sir.
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Ari Vatanen is THE MAN.
When they first said his name I had to go look it up on the official site just to make sure it was indeed the same Ari Vatanen. I love the response Ari gave to a question about why he came back: “Life called me and you can not say not to life.” Damn.. this just means im going to have to go dig out that video of him on Pikes Peak again.
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Here's the link to the Tarek again. Don't know what I did last time.
They're arriving in Tunisia tomorrow, so it should get interesting soon.
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can be found here.

http://www.vwvortex.com/

I really don't understand why this vehicle exists. It bears little relation to anything VW builds, or sells. Yes, I know it uses the existing 1.9 turbo diesel in race-tune, but I would think a Touraeg-based racer would make much more "marketing" sense.

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