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Old 02-21-2001, 07:48 AM   #1
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Question wrx engine swap??

Just wondering if anybody knows if a new 2.0 turbo can fit into a 99-01 RS(remotely easily)? If no, why not? My friend asked me and I honestly didn't know. That would be pretty sweet if it could.
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Old 02-21-2001, 07:51 AM   #2
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As a matter of fact I just saw a U.K. version for sale for $1,200, complete with plumbing, intercooler and ecu on Scoobynet.

It may take a bit more than a weekend though, based on what those who have done it have to say.
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Old 02-21-2001, 08:01 AM   #3
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Given my financial time frame, my desire to keep my already modded RS and my understanding of the need for transmission upgrade, a WRX salvage powertrain swap seems like my best bet right now. I understand that even with a full wiring harness, and engine swap is a professional-level undertaking. In terms of mechanical and physical compatibility, the new stuff drops right in - it's the same guts since the '93, I think, but the wiring man - heavy. I would probably have to set aside a week to do the work; mech, electronics, troubleshooting and shakedown - If I knew exactly what to do.
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Old 02-21-2001, 08:10 AM   #4
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fit yes.. but u will need engine+tranny+diffs+axels+ecu+wireingharness+giant-suitcase-o-money to get it installed
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Old 02-21-2001, 01:39 PM   #5
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I have contacts in Japan to supply the 280 HP STI engine (+ tranny + axles, ect....)and also contact here in US (Southern Cali) to completely install. I posted this in the Private Vendors section. Let me know if anybody is interested. Right now the estimates (rough) are

engine, tranny, axles, wiring - $3000-$3500

install - about $1500
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Old 02-21-2001, 02:39 PM   #6
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STIll cheaper and more reliable than the best aftermarket kit.
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Old 02-21-2001, 04:36 PM   #7
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I don't know why everyone has this bad impression that it will cost an arm and a leg to install an Sti engine. The wiring is the most complicated and only a handfull of people know how to do it. Regarding this octane thing, the engine does have a stock knock sensor. And it is not a big deal to add a little octane booster once and a while. It is no different than those putting in fuel injector additives while at the pump. The Sti engine swap is not a bad alternative to a bolt on 2.5 system. I think the cons of a swap are a little over exagerated.

just my 2cents,
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Old 02-21-2001, 07:00 PM   #8
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i agree..unless at the same time yo upgrage to an R180 rear diff (which requies new wheel bearing, axles, rear brakes, half-shafts, etc.) and also have to convert you 4eat to a 5spd. there is a lot LOT of misc. little peices you need to source out as well.

BTW i have a 99sti motor/tranny/ecu/complete wiring loom/gauges(sti 8K and 260kph, etc.)/rear diff/half shafts/wheel bearings/etc. coming that sadly needs to be sold for i purchased another car

i am asking what i paid plus shipping to your door and that was 7200 US dollars. Quite a fair price. the car WAS NOT in an accidnet, took the motor out for a turbo ej25 IIRC, so it is complete, includes all piping, turbo, STI intercooler, etc. etc. perfect for a swap or rally car.
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Old 02-21-2001, 07:26 PM   #9
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You don't have to change the rear diff. I was still running my stock RS rear diff and suspension for about a year before I decided to go LSD. I went for the Sti LSD which do not fit in the stock RS diff unless you machine it out. But the stock diff is good enough for your average use. Even spririted driving. Its nice to have the Sti stuff, but it is not necessary if you don't have that budget.

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Old 02-21-2001, 07:32 PM   #10
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you do bring up quite a good point. I thankfully had that budget and was albe to shell out for the goodies. STI is not the endall to performance, BUT they are damn good at what they do

but like i said the motor has to go.. got to get $$$ for the bimmer's performance parts
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Old 02-22-2001, 01:48 PM   #11
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Derres Catalano,

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I have contacts in Japan to supply the 280 HP STI engine (+ tranny + axles, ect....)and also contact here in US (Southern Cali) to completely install. I posted this in the Private Vendors section. Let me know if anybody is interested. Right now the estimates (rough) are
engine, tranny, axles, wiring - $3000-$3500

install - about $1500
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You might have started something here.
This can be arranged as a group buy and group install. Here's what I need to know: How old are the parts, what are the warranties, will the car pass emissions...and if not what can I do to make it pass? Since I live in IL, is there someone local that can do the work for me and not F%$^# it up? I mean I have a few places that I could turn to but I'd rather be referred. Also what is the shipping cost on that, and how long is the wait? Also, can anyone make me an offer to buy my engine? Hopefully that will cover the install cost.

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Old 02-23-2001, 11:38 AM   #12
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Are we talking about the New Age Impreza engine or the previous model engines?
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Old 02-23-2001, 02:41 PM   #13
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Rob-
For Illinois check out: http://www.tadmotorsports.com/

They are the Midwest's premier rally tuner with lots of experience with Lanzers and other turbocharged japanese cars. My friend had his 323 GTX prepped there and they did a fantastic job. So the Impreza front clip swap should be no problem for them. They are just north of Chicago.

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Old 02-23-2001, 05:33 PM   #14
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I was talking about the new age Impreza 227hp engine. I figured that it might be a lot easier to drop right in since they make the same exact car only as a 2.5RS. But I did not know if the new engine would fit as easily into a 99-01 RS body. It just crossed my mind. Anybody know what's involved in the wiring? I know it is a lot of work to put an STi motor in, I just wanted to know if it's worth the cost difference to deal with less horsepower.
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Old 02-23-2001, 06:30 PM   #15
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Either way is the same.
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Old 02-23-2001, 08:13 PM   #16
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A little FYI tad may not do any more street work which is a bummer, they do killer work, but i was told by murray they are moving to Rally prep. only which is great for the shop, more power to them, but bad for the scooby crowd... who do we turn to?
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