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Old 01-04-2003, 07:32 PM   #1
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Default Want to get started in SCCA Club Racing.

Hey all, I'm interested in getting my feet wet in some track racing. I went to the SCCA website and hunted around for the last hour or so on information within the SCCA Club Racing sub sites.

Couple of questions, they don't have the 2002 Impreza WRX listed in their database for what class it falls into. Anyone know where I can get momre information on requirments, dues, car classification for the WRX etc.?

I would like to start with the track and get used to non-street driving before I hit the dirt and tackle that learning curve. The unltimate goal for me here is to work my way up to SCCA ProRally eventually.

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Old 01-04-2003, 10:22 PM   #2
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The only way to compete in a WRX or 2.5 RS is via the World Challenge rules. All World Challenge legal cars can compete in the regional Improved Touring E "ITE" class. This is so, because the SCCA is the sanctioning body for WC cars, and if you go get the spec sheets for allowed mods for WC cars, you'll note that they are all SCCA forms. ITE is a regional class only, and regions can vary their rules... There are no other classes that allow a WRX or 2.5 RS at this point in time, period. That said, don't expect to be competitive in ITE. It is, however a "foot in the door".

It's probable that a '98 2.5 RS will be legal in an IT class in '03 because it'll be 5 years old, but I don't know which one. There has been mention of allowing AWD in IT classes in Fastrack, probably related to the Subies. This is not the case with your WRX as currently, no turbo charged cars at all are allowed in club racing (other than what I mention above).

First thing you have to do is submit your paper work for a club racing license, either find a safety-legal car to do your driver's schools in, or modify your WRX to meet the safety regulations in this regard. Your WRX will not necessarily have to meet regulations other than safety while you work on your license. Safety will include a minimum spec rollcage and fire related equipment. Read the GCR for specifics.

Good luck.

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Old 01-04-2003, 11:27 PM   #3
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You have no idea how big a question you just asked. “Getting in to track racing” pretty much encompasses all of motor sports and is a bit too big to answer. What are you thinking of doing? Do you want to learn car control at safe speeds? Do you want to go around a race track at high speeds? Do you want to go around a race track at high speeds with other cars who are bent on getting around you? Do you want to go around a small track at what feels like enormous speeds while sitting 3 inches off the ground?

What it seems you want is to do some sort of road/tarmac speed events and eventually get into rally. If you don’t really know what form of road events you want to do you should take a look at this Grassroots Motorsports article about the various forms of racing (http://www.grmotorsports.com/intoracing.html). The only thing it leaves out is karting.

An off the cuff answer is to start with autocross. It might not be what you were thinking about when you said “track racing” but it’s the most accessible form of racing in your car at its current preparedness level. The corollary to autocross is rallycross. It’s the same thing as autocross but on dirt. Look go take a look at your regional SCCA website and see what’s offered in your area.
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Old 01-04-2003, 11:42 PM   #4
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if you ultimate goal is ProRally then you should not even think about getting into Club Road Racing. These are two different things. Its not like you are going to start with Club Racing and go on to Pro Rally, it will be starting from scratch once you will get over to Rally. And you car will have to be switched over quite substantially.

Here is what you need to take a look at:
Rallycross + a little bit of Autocross --> Rally Sprints --> Club Rally --> ProRally

if you are unsure what you want to do, go to you local SCCA Rally or Road Racing event and volunteer to work as, let say track marshal. Talk to some people there (there are always very nice and knowledgeable people there) and make you decision.

Also if you are thinking about something serious, you will need to get some other car for your daily driving as your WRX will have to be your Race Car.

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Old 01-05-2003, 03:37 AM   #5
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You should definitely consider the Team O'Neil Rally School as [from what I've heard] they'll teach you a lot about the ins and outs of driving a rally car.

http://www.team-oneil.com/

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Old 01-05-2003, 04:16 AM   #6
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Thanks for all the feed back. I apologize for my general question, I should have been more specific.

I do want to eventualy be competetive in ProRally. The reason I stated Club Racing, is because I was hoping to take my own course in dealing with my learning curve for safe race driving by first getting used to controlling my car at speed on tarmac, then moving into the dirty stuff.

After reading a bit more about this, I think Solo II (autocross) is the way I should go to start out, before I begin racing on the dirt. Safety is important to me, so I've already made plans to make some modifications I can afford to my car (wheels, tires, harnesses, harness bar, seats and brakes.). I'm going to go ahead and start my reaserch with my local SCCA Solo II people and get started that way. If there is any other advice or comments please keep them coming. Again, thanks for the responses, and happy racing!

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cheap easy experience is Solo 2. Instead of going the CLub Racing Route (cause you would need a race car), look into Porsche Club and BMW Club of America. They both have Drivers Ed's all the time. You use your car, they take you out on the course and teach you proper lines, and how to basically drive. Its a safe environment. You can only pass when told by the car you are passing. No passing in corners. I think that would be about the best way to go.
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Just my opinion, but autocross is hugely expensive for the amount of track time that you get. You live in Northwest somewhere. Contact local tracks, BMWCCA, SpeedVentures, NASA, Pantera Owners Club, Touring Car Racing Association and get track time and access to good, experienced instructors. You might have to drop anywhere from $200-$500 but you'll get track time with instructors and at high but safe speeds.
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Where are you in the NW? There are good track programs at Portland International Raceway and Pacific Raceway (just outside Kent WA). There are of course many more programs then thoes two but i have no idea what the scchedules of any of them are. Swing by the NW forum and ask around. Once you take your first hit from the go fast crack pipe you wont go back.
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I'm in the same boat as you are. I'd be starting probably with showroom stock the moving up toward improved touring then pro. Problem now though is every car that I can afford isn't allowed in touring. It looks like my only real viable option is something like a 240sx or VW gti vr6.
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Aren't Civics and Neons in showroom stock? There must be lots of used ones around at reasonable prices.
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Where are you in the NW? There are good track programs at Portland International Raceway and Pacific Raceway (just outside Kent WA). There are of course many more programs then thoes two but i have no idea what the scchedules of any of them are. Swing by the NW forum and ask around. Once you take your first hit from the go fast crack pipe you wont go back.

I'm in Kirkland.

I was going to just ask jamie (subiegal) about it, but I get the distinct feeling she is 100% Rally

I'll start poking my nose around, I can't afford an extra car so AutoX is the only option for me, although part of me would love to drive around the track and race some people.

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Problem with going Showroom Stock then IT, is MONEY. Its alot cheaper to run Improved Touring. Showroom stock has to be a certain year car. I think nationally it can only be 7 years old, then it gets booted into Improved Touring if it gets classified. Improved Touring-C you can very easily be racing a Civic for well under $5000.00. The shop I work for has 2 ITC Civic's. One was built from the ground up, but we got it wrecked. The front end was smashed in. This is a good site to look at for used race cars www.improvedtouring.com. I want to get into racing (driver) but its just so expensive to do it. It will nickel and dime you to death. So I will just stay as crew for now and crew chief on one (sometimes 2) cars.
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