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Old 04-10-2001, 10:38 AM   #1
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Post Headers/Exhaust/Cams who has them and dyno'd them

I am getting real twitchy....I need more performance. No turbo. Don't wanna deal with it. But I would like my RS to have a bit more love. Especially up top. So this is the route i'm most likely going with.

So who has all the mentioned stuff and has gotten dyno'd results.

If no-one has this info just let me know if my expectations are realistic. I would be hoping for around 185-190hp and ft lbs O torque.

I know how much the headers and exhaust are gonna cost. I'm gonna go with Borla. But how much is the racing cam, where do I get it from, and how much is install for it? All your help is appreciated.

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Old 04-10-2001, 01:00 PM   #2
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I don't know about power, but the main selling point on the intake is that it makes the entire rpm range usable vs stock that only feels good up to about 5krpms.

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Old 04-10-2001, 01:21 PM   #3
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Thanks for all your posts and comments. Dcoty I am very glad to hear that the setup is a good deal, I'm curious though, what kind of gains in comparision to stock do you get? What's your 0-60 1/4 etc etc. If you have raced any other cars consistantly what is the result now? Stuff like that.

Oh and I already have an intake that is quite nice and yes it was affordable. The ganz flow intake with filter. I am quite happy with that purchase.

Are cams difficult to install? I am not experienced with working on cars but am capable. Let me know.
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Old 04-11-2001, 12:40 AM   #4
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Ok, you can get the turbo cams and the mild and agressive n/a cams from www.cobbtuning.com, the cams are almost 500 dollars plus a charge of an extra 400 dollars. Its on an exchange basis, after you sent your stock cams back to cobb tuning after the install of their cams, you get refunded the 400 dollars. I have the mild n/a cams, with the strommung exhaust and borla headers, and I am very, very happy with the setup, hope I helped.
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Old 04-11-2001, 12:59 AM   #5
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Silky,
An intake will give you a LOT (2-3x) more extra power than the exhaust for a lot less money.
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Old 04-11-2001, 08:11 PM   #6
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I,m trying to stay N/A as much as I can. I'll recommend you to contact Cobb Tuning also .I have heads, cams ,Throttle body , pulley, headers, custom cold air intake, last 1/4 mile time 14.6. Next week we'll see afteer some new improvements.
Recommend highly if you can afford the heads, also they have some new cams, that will give you better torque on high RPMS. Ask Trey.
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Old 04-12-2001, 08:42 AM   #7
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14.6!!! That's what Imprezer got at the track frist time out with his WRX and with a MBC he only got it down to 14.4.

What was your 60' time and MPH??
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Old 04-12-2001, 08:59 AM   #8
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3 earlier timeslip details from Andres are in this thread: http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/000848.html

Notice his honest 89-90 MPH trap speed? A stock RS is 83-85 MPH.
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Old 04-12-2001, 09:08 AM   #9
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This information is awesome!!! Those numbers are very impressive, considering they're only straight line numbers. I can only imagine how much more love they would give the RS all around.

Thanks for all the info. I am now pretty much sold on this method of upgrading.
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Old 04-12-2001, 11:18 AM   #10
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Yeah, it's just that the cylinder head work is ~$2500, the cams are $500... plus labor to install it all for ... what, maybe 75-90% of the people? The $ per HP is more costly than turbocharging.

The gains are there though, no doubt.
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Old 04-12-2001, 02:56 PM   #11
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We sell the Heads PLUS camshafts for $2500, not including labor.

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Old 04-12-2001, 04:00 PM   #12
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My bad!

In case I came off as too harsh, most of you know this but some do not-- I have Cobb Tuning street cams in my RS.

Naturally aspirated motors have throttle response that turbocharged motors cannot, by nature of the way a turbo works.
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Old 04-12-2001, 08:07 PM   #13
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It would be very interesting to see how the stock ECU handles a naturally aspirated motor with all the fixings.

Before anyone corrects me, I believe Trey's results were using a Haltech.
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Old 04-12-2001, 08:37 PM   #14
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One big limitation of the stock ecu is the 6200 redline. All the internal mod improves the engine efficiency at high rpm. You are not taking full advantage of the potential if you stay at the stock redline. More power needs higher redline. Higher redline needs new ecu $$$.
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Old 04-13-2001, 09:07 AM   #15
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Silky,
I was in the same position as you, I wanted power without the turbo. The setup that I have is great, and I would highly reccomend it to you. I have yet to do any timed runs, though, but when I do I'll post em. All my setup needs is a good engine management systemm (any suggestions anyone?).
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PS: Total cost for cobb cams and install was 1400$ canadian, roughly 1000$ US


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