Stromung getting to me, I need something quiter...

TimHa · 02-22-2001, 04:29 PM

Maybe its my old age but my Stromung dual-tip is finally starting to sound too loud. Normally I drive alone and have the stereo pretty well cranked but lately my wife & I have been taking out the RS instead of the Outback and you can barely carry on a conversation in the car between the exhaust and all the damn rattles.

Anyone directly compare the noise levels of the Stromung and the Subie Performance exhaust or is there another better performing exhaust that is a bit quieter? I don't want to shell out more $$$ and get another too loud exhaust.

Tim

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bluesaint · 02-22-2001, 04:51 PM

STi muffler

96Lconversion · 02-22-2001, 05:49 PM

Is it really that bad? I am researching exhausts for my L and I want as many opinions as I can get. Anything you could tell me will help, thanks a lot!

HondaH8er · 02-22-2001, 05:54 PM

Do you have the mid-pipe, too? If not, I've heard that it shifts the noise to the rear of the car, and helps lower the sound level in the cabin.

P.K. Motorsports · 02-22-2001, 06:54 PM

You likely just need a better resonator. The little stock resonator is probably toast and wasn't much even new. I had a couple of custom midpipes welded up and they make a significant difference. A 14" resonator fits easily. My second midpipe was the quietest, it had 2" tubing from the cat to the resonator and 2.25" tubing from the resonator back. I would try the midpipe first, this will cost you maybe $80, which is most likely less than the cost of selling/shipping the Stromung and making up the difference for a new setup. If it still isn't quiet enough then the midpipe is easily salable and you are no worse off for having tried it.

TimHa · 02-22-2001, 07:19 PM

OK, where do you get a mid-pipe for the RS?

Tim

TimHa · 02-22-2001, 07:27 PM

Ok, never mind, found it at Teagues. This really helps?

Tim

rpone605 · 02-22-2001, 07:58 PM

your quiet stromung is too loud??

your nuts...unless you have a exhaust leak.

now if you rode in my car you would flip out cuz it is loud.

get the subaru brospeed or a mrt exhaust.

gtguy · 02-22-2001, 08:04 PM

Man, I agree. Even with my 2.5" Stromung, which is supposed to be slightly louder than the 2.25", the wife and I could carry on normal conversation just fine. Mind you, we couldn't at WOT, but duh!

And I'm in a Legacy wagon, which is supposed to exacerbate the Stromung sound, too.

Kevin

Sunrise City Rider · 02-22-2001, 09:36 PM

A midpipe will change the amplitude of the sound. If you just change the muffler in any car it will be louder than if you changed from the cat-back.

P.K. Motorsports · 02-22-2001, 11:39 PM

Tim - Dale is a great guy but you don't need to buy one from across the country. Any competent muffler shop (not Midas) can weld one up. Look in the phone book for a local shop which has "performance exhaust" in their ad.

Does it help? Of course. When you set a 14" long, 2.25" flange resonator next to the dinky little factory one it is clear that it will sound different. They wear out over time and the one in your midpipe probably has its best days behind it. The pitch will be lower and the overall noise level muted. Doing the tubing right helps too. My 2"->2.25" resonated midpipe was quieter than my straight 2.25" resonated midpipe.

And don't listen to anybody who tells you to just suck it up. Noise perception is very subjective, and if you don't like the noise level then it's too loud, no matter what Joe Blow thinks. I would agree that a Stromung with an unresonated midpipe is uncomfortably loud on the freeway, even for a short trip.

omahasubaru · 02-23-2001, 06:58 AM

<font color=red size=5>STi! STi!</font>

With a 2.25" non-resonated midpipe, it is perfect! louder and better looking than stock, yet quiter than Strogumn. I love it!

<IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/omahasubaru/pics/JonS_RS_exhsttip.jpg" border=0>

Isn't it perdy?

Jon

<IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/omahasubaru/pics/JonS_RS_trnklogo.jpg" border=0>

bratmantlz · 02-23-2001, 07:02 AM

pics didnt show?

i wana see

Gambit · 02-23-2001, 07:20 AM

How about a midpipe with just the stock muffler?

STiShawn · 02-23-2001, 07:38 AM

The Stromung mid pipe mellows the sound out and does move it back.....I can talk normally over mine and I have removed all the sound deadening from my trink.....

Ashmason · 02-23-2001, 07:51 AM

Send a PM to Greborb, he did the same thing as you. I also went this way and changed my Stromung to a Brospeed from ISR. Soooooo much quieter. Stromung was killing me in my OBS.

I nearly tried a mid pipe, Greborb did... but since he still gave it up, I decided to just change the muffler.

HondaH8er · 02-23-2001, 01:55 PM

I just put my Stomung on last week, and it wasn't as loud in the cabin as I thought it would be. Does it have a tendancy to get louder over time? Of couse, my last car was a MY91 Camaro RS, 305 V8, and it had NO muffler, rusted through and fell off. Guess I got used to that noise in the cabin!

Swivel1000 · 02-23-2001, 01:59 PM

Omahasubaru, whats a "Strogumn"?

matt

Impreza22B · 02-24-2001, 03:36 AM

Yes! I've heard the STi muffler running from Greborb's Impreza. He's also a member here in the north forum. It's the best muffler I've heard over Stromung and universal mufflers. It's got a very low rumble to it. Sounds like a V8 rumble.

I don't know if he's got a mid-pipe with that set-up though.

BOB YOUNG · 02-24-2001, 03:00 PM

Wait a second..the dual tip Stromung is so loud that you can't carry on a conversation with your wife? Does Stromung make them with three tips?

subymamma · 02-24-2001, 05:25 PM

Very funny, Bob..

Seriously, knowing nothing and contemplating replacing the stock muffler on my OBS to gain a few hp, but not wanting a sound problem...

Is there a correlation between loudness and gains in horsepower? Or none whatsoever???

subymamma · 02-24-2001, 05:27 PM

Oh and by the way, Tim...

What exactly do you mean by "old"? Maybe I can gauge whether your muffler would be too loud for me if I knew that... If you say old is 35, I'm a goner and there's no way my poor ears could take that exhaust!!

TimHa · 02-24-2001, 06:15 PM

I'm in my early 40's so I'm pretty much an old-timer in the Impreza crowd. If the thing just didn't make max noise under my seat at highway cruising rpm's it would be great and the dual-tip just belongs on the car.

Tim

subymamma · 02-24-2001, 06:27 PM

Tim:
Well, I'm ahead of you a few years, so Strom's out for me.. I had a Borla recommended and just asking around about that kind.. Will take my time, in no hurry to have my ears assaulted!

Greborb · 02-24-2001, 10:52 PM

The STI catback system is the best. For you over 40 guys, it demonstrates intelligence and good judgement. It's loud and cool enough so people whip around and look...and say "Whatzat?" Sounds great with Borla headers!

02-22-2001, 04:29 PM	#1
TimHa Scooby Newbie Member#: 3992 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Redmond, WA USA Vehicle: 04 WRX Black	Stromung getting to me, I need something quiter... Maybe its my old age but my Stromung dual-tip is finally starting to sound too loud. Normally I drive alone and have the stereo pretty well cranked but lately my wife & I have been taking out the RS instead of the Outback and you can barely carry on a conversation in the car between the exhaust and all the damn rattles. Anyone directly compare the noise levels of the Stromung and the Subie Performance exhaust or is there another better performing exhaust that is a bit quieter? I don't want to shell out more $$$ and get another too loud exhaust. Tim * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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02-22-2001, 04:51 PM	#2
bluesaint Scooby Specialist Member#: 876 Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Newark, CA USA	STi muffler

02-22-2001, 05:49 PM	#3
96Lconversion Scooby Specialist Member#: 3604 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Vehicle: 2003 Impreza WRX 2004 S2000	Is it really that bad? I am researching exhausts for my L and I want as many opinions as I can get. Anything you could tell me will help, thanks a lot!

02-22-2001, 05:54 PM	#4
HondaH8er Scooby Specialist Member#: 3097 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: www.rs25.com Beaverton, OR Vehicle: 2000 2.5RS Coupe Silverthorn Metallic	Do you have the mid-pipe, too? If not, I've heard that it shifts the noise to the rear of the car, and helps lower the sound level in the cabin.

02-22-2001, 06:54 PM	#5
P.K. Motorsports Scooby Specialist Member#: 1110 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: USA Vehicle: 1999 RS Silver	You likely just need a better resonator. The little stock resonator is probably toast and wasn't much even new. I had a couple of custom midpipes welded up and they make a significant difference. A 14" resonator fits easily. My second midpipe was the quietest, it had 2" tubing from the cat to the resonator and 2.25" tubing from the resonator back. I would try the midpipe first, this will cost you maybe $80, which is most likely less than the cost of selling/shipping the Stromung and making up the difference for a new setup. If it still isn't quiet enough then the midpipe is easily salable and you are no worse off for having tried it.

02-22-2001, 07:19 PM	#6
TimHa Scooby Newbie Member#: 3992 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Redmond, WA USA Vehicle: 04 WRX Black	OK, where do you get a mid-pipe for the RS? Tim

02-22-2001, 07:27 PM	#7
TimHa Scooby Newbie Member#: 3992 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Redmond, WA USA Vehicle: 04 WRX Black	Ok, never mind, found it at Teagues. This really helps? Tim

02-22-2001, 07:58 PM	#8
rpone605 Scooby Specialist Member#: 1669 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Vehicle: 2004 WRX Sport Wagon Silver	your quiet stromung is too loud?? your nuts...unless you have a exhaust leak. now if you rode in my car you would flip out cuz it is loud. get the subaru brospeed or a mrt exhaust.

02-22-2001, 08:04 PM	#9
gtguy Scooby Guru Member#: 2184 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Highland Park, Ill., USA Vehicle: 2005 Legacy GT wagon Platinum Silver Metallic	Man, I agree. Even with my 2.5" Stromung, which is supposed to be slightly louder than the 2.25", the wife and I could carry on normal conversation just fine. Mind you, we couldn't at WOT, but duh! And I'm in a Legacy wagon, which is supposed to exacerbate the Stromung sound, too. Kevin

02-22-2001, 09:36 PM	#10
Sunrise City Rider Scooby Specialist Member#: 1503 Join Date: May 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Sunrise, FL, USA Vehicle: 2000 Impreza W"RS"X Blue Ridge Pearl	A midpipe will change the amplitude of the sound. If you just change the muffler in any car it will be louder than if you changed from the cat-back.

02-22-2001, 11:39 PM	#11
P.K. Motorsports Scooby Specialist Member#: 1110 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: USA Vehicle: 1999 RS Silver	Tim - Dale is a great guy but you don't need to buy one from across the country. Any competent muffler shop (not Midas) can weld one up. Look in the phone book for a local shop which has "performance exhaust" in their ad. Does it help? Of course. When you set a 14" long, 2.25" flange resonator next to the dinky little factory one it is clear that it will sound different. They wear out over time and the one in your midpipe probably has its best days behind it. The pitch will be lower and the overall noise level muted. Doing the tubing right helps too. My 2"->2.25" resonated midpipe was quieter than my straight 2.25" resonated midpipe. And don't listen to anybody who tells you to just suck it up. Noise perception is very subjective, and if you don't like the noise level then it's too loud, no matter what Joe Blow thinks. I would agree that a Stromung with an unresonated midpipe is uncomfortably loud on the freeway, even for a short trip.

02-23-2001, 07:02 AM	#13
bratmantlz Scooby Specialist Member#: 3231 Join Date: Dec 2000 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: colorado springs colorado usa Vehicle: 88 626 Turbo white	pics didnt show? i wana see

02-23-2001, 06:58 AM	#12
omahasubaru Scooby Guru Member#: 1594 Join Date: Jun 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Gretna, NE Vehicle: 1995 WRX 2011 WRX	<font color=red size=5>STi! STi!</font> With a 2.25" non-resonated midpipe, it is perfect! louder and better looking than stock, yet quiter than Strogumn. I love it! <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/omahasubaru/pics/JonS_RS_exhsttip.jpg" border=0> Isn't it perdy? Jon <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/omahasubaru/pics/JonS_RS_trnklogo.jpg" border=0>

02-23-2001, 07:20 AM	#14
Gambit Scooby Specialist Member#: 102 Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: The meeting place	How about a midpipe with just the stock muffler?

02-23-2001, 07:38 AM	#15
STiShawn Scooby Specialist Member#: 2348 Join Date: Sep 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: St.Louis Vehicle: 2006 WRX TR Steel Grey Metallic	The Stromung mid pipe mellows the sound out and does move it back.....I can talk normally over mine and I have removed all the sound deadening from my trink.....

02-23-2001, 07:51 AM	#16
Ashmason Scooby Newbie Member#: 1224 Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Redondo Beach, Ca, USA Vehicle: 2000 OBS Silverthorne	Send a PM to Greborb, he did the same thing as you. I also went this way and changed my Stromung to a Brospeed from ISR. Soooooo much quieter. Stromung was killing me in my OBS. I nearly tried a mid pipe, Greborb did... but since he still gave it up, I decided to just change the muffler.

02-23-2001, 01:55 PM	#17
HondaH8er Scooby Specialist Member#: 3097 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: www.rs25.com Beaverton, OR Vehicle: 2000 2.5RS Coupe Silverthorn Metallic	I just put my Stomung on last week, and it wasn't as loud in the cabin as I thought it would be. Does it have a tendancy to get louder over time? Of couse, my last car was a MY91 Camaro RS, 305 V8, and it had NO muffler, rusted through and fell off. Guess I got used to that noise in the cabin!

02-23-2001, 01:59 PM	#18
Swivel1000 Scooby Specialist Member#: 1168 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Houston, TX Vehicle: 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4	Omahasubaru, whats a "Strogumn"? matt

02-24-2001, 03:36 AM	#19
Impreza22B Scooby Newbie Member#: 3128 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Vehicle: 2001 RS Saloon Deep Mica Blue	Yes! I've heard the STi muffler running from Greborb's Impreza. He's also a member here in the north forum. It's the best muffler I've heard over Stromung and universal mufflers. It's got a very low rumble to it. Sounds like a V8 rumble. I don't know if he's got a mid-pipe with that set-up though.

02-24-2001, 03:00 PM	#20
BOB YOUNG Scooby Newbie Member#: 3059 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: PLANDOME,NY,USA Vehicle: 2001 rs BLACK DIAMOND PEARL	Wait a second..the dual tip Stromung is so loud that you can't carry on a conversation with your wife? Does Stromung make them with three tips?

02-24-2001, 05:25 PM	#21
subymamma Scooby Specialist Member#: 2575 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Winter Park, Florida Vehicle: 2008 Forester 2.5X Dark Gray Metallic	Very funny, Bob.. Seriously, knowing nothing and contemplating replacing the stock muffler on my OBS to gain a few hp, but not wanting a sound problem... Is there a correlation between loudness and gains in horsepower? Or none whatsoever???

02-24-2001, 05:27 PM	#22
subymamma Scooby Specialist Member#: 2575 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Winter Park, Florida Vehicle: 2008 Forester 2.5X Dark Gray Metallic	Oh and by the way, Tim... What exactly do you mean by "old"? Maybe I can gauge whether your muffler would be too loud for me if I knew that... If you say old is 35, I'm a goner and there's no way my poor ears could take that exhaust!!

02-24-2001, 06:15 PM	#23
TimHa Scooby Newbie Member#: 3992 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Redmond, WA USA Vehicle: 04 WRX Black	I'm in my early 40's so I'm pretty much an old-timer in the Impreza crowd. If the thing just didn't make max noise under my seat at highway cruising rpm's it would be great and the dual-tip just belongs on the car. Tim

02-24-2001, 06:27 PM	#24
subymamma Scooby Specialist Member#: 2575 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Winter Park, Florida Vehicle: 2008 Forester 2.5X Dark Gray Metallic	Tim: Well, I'm ahead of you a few years, so Strom's out for me.. I had a Borla recommended and just asking around about that kind.. Will take my time, in no hurry to have my ears assaulted!

02-24-2001, 10:52 PM	#25
Greborb Scooby Newbie Member#: 2974 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Portland, OR SPEC	The STI catback system is the best. For you over 40 guys, it demonstrates intelligence and good judgement. It's loud and cool enough so people whip around and look...and say "Whatzat?" Sounds great with Borla headers!