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Old 04-23-2001, 05:46 AM   #1
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Question O2 sensor recall and intake mods

I just a letter for the recall on O2 sensors and before I bring the car in to the dealer I would like to know if anyone with intake mods has had any problem with dealers for this recall.
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Old 04-23-2001, 07:20 AM   #2
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It will totally vary on the dealer. Subaru service staff in Evansville at Romain Subaru are complete jerks. But the staff a Bob Rohrman's in Lafayette are VERY cool about it all.

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Old 04-23-2001, 08:58 AM   #3
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your better off just seeing what happens. If they don't like it, go somewhere else simple.
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Old 04-23-2001, 09:23 AM   #4
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Matt2, very bad advice. If the dealership see's that you've made a modification that voids the warranty they can report you to Subaru of America and "blacklist" you. Worse, if you are leasing the car, they can take it away from you. And legally, an intake change could be considered a modification that voids the warranty. Others in the club can attest to their negative experience at certain dealers who won't touch a car that has any modifications.

Best thing to do is just take the intake off and put back on the stock one. That's what I did last week when I took mine in. Better safe than sorry, and it only takes like 5 minutes! Don't worry about an ECU reset until you put the aftermarket intake back on.Text
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Old 04-23-2001, 10:25 AM   #5
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I agree with Derres Catalano. This mod only takes a couple of minutes to change around. This will save you a ton of stress from the dealer when they open the hood and see the intake. Change it back to stock, go get your new O2 sensor, get home and put your performance intake back on. Good luck..
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Old 04-23-2001, 10:39 AM   #6
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does anyone know if there is a same recall for MY98 RS's? or any recall for it actually.
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Old 04-23-2001, 04:38 PM   #7
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popnGEAR, No recalls for the '98 that I know of.

TSB: Front cv shafts inner grease replacement on selected cars.

1.Few with hesitation problem.
2.Many with clutch shudder/chatter.
3.Few with blown head gaskets due to
overheating.
(I only had to deal with the TSB and the clutch problem)


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Old 04-23-2001, 04:48 PM   #8
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The point is dealers have the option to refuse service on a warranty or recall item if the vehicle has been altered. Let us know how it goes.
What intake are you using?
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Old 04-23-2001, 04:51 PM   #9
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Quote:
you've made a modification that voids the warranty they can report you to Subaru of America and "blacklist" you.
That's just not true. Unless the product you install (notice I said product, not general class of modification) is on the manufacturers list of excluded modifications, a manufacturer cannot void your warranty unless they can directly attribute the failure to your modification. To do otherwise is a violation of federal law.

As for the original question, Subaru has already accepted liablity for the O2 sensor repolacement. The recall is global and the dealer must replace it regardless of any modifications, even if that mod directly killed the sensor before it died on it's own.
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Old 04-23-2001, 05:43 PM   #10
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does that recall apply for the 2001 subaru impreza's??

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Old 04-23-2001, 05:51 PM   #11
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No flent..I was just at the dealer and he said there was no recall on the MY01 cars..Gerry
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Old 04-24-2001, 12:24 AM   #12
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Thanks guys, except putting back the stock air intake is not so quick for me. See, I modified the intake to use the stock air box and a cone filter. However to do this I needed to seal the air box, sooooo, being cheap I cut the gasket from the stock air filter. But, since I couldn't get it to stay in place when closing the air box I used some permatex. I could put the air silencer and the stock tubing back but then I would have to drive without and air filter and I don't want to do that. Oh well, guess I'll take my chances. I was just trying to get a heads-up on the situation. Besides, how can an intake mod affect the O2 sensor. Its on recall as is anyway. recalls don;t have anything to do with whether your car is in warranty or not, right?
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Old 04-24-2001, 08:38 AM   #13
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Nick,

I'm using a modified version of the ganzflow. Instead of running the 3" tube all the way into the fender I cut off the end and installed a K&N cone filter. Additionally I made a heat shield from aluminum, support for the shield and intake tube, and even put an air flow straightening vane in the intake tube just after the filter. I don;t know if the vane has much effect but it only took a little extra effort and I was a little bored that weekend.
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Old 04-24-2001, 03:45 PM   #14
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I'm pretty sure i'm a victim of the nasty MY98 hesitation problem, it doens't happen that often but when it does it's really annoying. It happens when i shift to second gear, i might be wrong and it is possible i'm not revving high enough. If my local dealer confirms it tho are they supposed to fix it at no charge?
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Old 04-24-2001, 06:08 PM   #15
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Gavin, most manufacturers consider any change to the engine to be voiding the warranty. It is mostly subjective, meaning it is based on the opinion of the manufacturer. If they feel that it voids the warranty, then you have nothing to say about it. It is not "against federal law". Simple way to find out is call up a dealership and ask how much it will cost them to install an aftermarket intake. You will be surprised with what you here.
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