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View Poll Results: Starting from the day the first one sells. Percentage of STi's sold that get wrecked.
5% 19 23.46%
10% 23 28.40%
15% 14 17.28%
25% 14 17.28%
33% 7 8.64%
50% 2 2.47%
101% !!! 2 2.47%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

 
 
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Old 01-07-2003, 12:16 PM   #1
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Default So how many STi's get wrecked in a year?

My guess is that this car is too much for most people. Add the DCCD that if set wrong can totally mess up an unskilled driver and I'm thinking a lot of "I totalled my STi today " posts. I'm not saying the STi or the DCCD are bad, but judging from the posts here from some of the more clueless people who have no idea what the STi is and more importantly isn't capable of, it's going to be an interesting first year once the car starts selling.
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Old 01-07-2003, 12:22 PM   #2
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Well,

Really, at 35k and it's insurance level, it's outta the reach of a lot of people. I figure more mature people will end up owning it, taking care of it like with the 22B.

For those who are not so mature with it, I just hope they have dental records on file for identification.

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Old 01-07-2003, 12:27 PM   #3
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Really, at 35k and it's insurance level, it's outta the reach of a lot of people.

ditto
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Old 01-07-2003, 12:40 PM   #4
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Just cause people can afford it, doesn't mean they can't drive it spiritedly. I'd say first wreck within 8 days... say 93% left on the road after the first year.
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Old 01-07-2003, 12:43 PM   #5
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Just cause people can afford it, doesn't mean they can't drive it spiritedly. I'd say first wreck within 8 days... say 93% left on the road after the first year.
I agree, I've seen lots of $80k Viper wrecks.

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Old 01-07-2003, 12:47 PM   #6
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I just hope it is not me

but if I do wreck one, it will beo n a track, with a cage, and 5 point harnesses, halo fire system, and more....so hopefully I will be fine

BUT....I am not aiming for that. I have learnt my lesson in the past wth cars on the street, and have matured.....but accidents do happen. I just know if my car does get totaled, it will not be because of something stupid I did

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Old 01-07-2003, 12:50 PM   #7
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Hey waitaminute... who gave you the authority to make a 'wrecks' poll without my permission??? Huh?!??!?!

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Old 01-07-2003, 12:50 PM   #8
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I think a good percentage of the people that can afford the car have no desire to buy it. Out of the people that do want it and can afford it I'd say there are around 60% that don't have money left over to mod it w/o eating crackers and water every day for the next 10 years of their life. I think the real question is, how many people are going to sacrafice so much to get an STI, only to wreck it and be in debt because one, the insurance doesn't cover everything, two, the insurance rates after the wreck are ridiculous (even more so than before the wreck), or three, the hospital bills? Sweet car, but not in my price class and I'll admit not anywhere close to being within my driving ability range to push a machine like that.
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Old 01-07-2003, 01:02 PM   #9
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Hey waitaminute... who gave you the authority to make a 'wrecks' poll without my permission??? Huh?!??!?!

--kC
I was thinking about that!

Disclaimer: This is not a scientific poll like KC's. Wagering on the outcome is outlawed everywhere, except Barbados where nothing's illegal.
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Old 01-07-2003, 04:04 PM   #10
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looks like a perfect bell curve so far!
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Old 01-07-2003, 04:10 PM   #11
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There are some clueless people on here. But still, the majority of the people who can actually afford this car are going to be more mature. I could be wrong but I doubt we'll see an excessive number of wrecks.
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Old 01-07-2003, 04:37 PM   #12
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I'm a pessimist, voting 25%. I think it's just too much car for the average American driver. But so is the WRX. Some yabbo is going to grab the wrong DCCD setting while taking a phone call, and powie!

Hey, what kind of rubber is it coming with? I might have to up that number...

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Old 01-07-2003, 04:51 PM   #13
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More reason that maybe I should get the Z06 instead....
I called insurance for quotes...

a brand new 03 Z06 (52k msrp) has less premium than

1. my 97 M3 2 door
2. new S2000
3. 01 BMW M coupe

.... one good thing to drive an old man's car...
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Old 01-07-2003, 05:41 PM   #14
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More reason that maybe I should get the Z06 instead....
I called insurance for quotes...

a brand new 03 Z06 (52k msrp) has less premium than

1. my 97 M3 2 door
2. new S2000
3. 01 BMW M coupe

.... one good thing to drive an old man's car...
Word...

The Z06 is lighter, has more hp, and is RWD - much more car to handle than the STI. But young retards don't usually drive them, as is the case with WRX's and camaros......

I wonder how much used drivetrains will be going for?

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Old 01-07-2003, 05:55 PM   #15
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I think a lot of unexperienced drivers will chicken out before they hit the handling limit.

Not to say people won't just run into other cars and things as they do in any car.
Hopefully we won't see any "Stock tires suck...STi totalled"
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Old 01-07-2003, 08:23 PM   #16
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Porsches and more expensive sports cars are usually cheaper to insurance than mustangs and camaros.
Integra is the highest due to theft rate, too many people want GSR and Type R conversions. Sigh. I hope that doesn't happen with Sti.
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Old 01-07-2003, 09:02 PM   #17
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Actually, I think the percentage of wrecks may be lower than the WRX. For one, every buyer will know from the start that it's a "sports car", not a hot sedan. It will set in their minds from the start that this car can bite. The problem with the WRX is that people didn't expect it to be as fast as it can be.

The STi is also not quite as deceptive about building up speed and cornering forces as the WRX. The rubber is better, and more progessive. The engine/exhaust even in stock form lets you know that you are hitting the power band. And there is enough power that you can feel the wheels losing traction under moderate amounts of throttle massage.

Also, the new suspension geometry and DCCD conspire to give it a more traditional RWD feel, which to me, a traditional RWD person, gave it much better feedback and allowed me to evaluate the limitations of the traction available than in standard Subaru turbo's that I've driven in the past.

That said, there certainly will still be some crashes. While most owners will probably be quite respectable types, there will still be the rich kids that convince their parents that AWD is safer, thus making this the perfect first car.

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Old 01-07-2003, 10:18 PM   #18
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Also, the STi doesn't come with RE92's standard!

The performance potential of the stock WRX far exceeds these tires even in the dry. The unsuspecting owner can easily discover this too late.

In any event, keep watching this site:
http://www.wreckedexotics.com

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Old 01-09-2003, 04:32 AM   #19
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after they start crashing, hopefully I can pickup an engine and maybe some other stuff as well
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Old 01-09-2003, 05:08 AM   #20
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I think it will be close to whatever rate the WRX is at. Sure the STI is priced more towards the older more mature crowd, but is it marketed to them as well? I'd say no, how many people in their 30's and 40's want to drive around in a rally blue car with gold wheels and a foot high spoiler on the back, especially women. Sure there's plenty of people in that catagory on this board, but from an overall point of view that isn't the group this car appeals to. I'd think this car is marketed towards the same group as the WRX, young males. Sure most of them probably can't afford it, but that's why they're only bringing a small number of STI's. There are plenty of kids out there who for whatever reason be it parents or what can get an STI. The older people who go for the STI are probably still kids at heart. You don't buy a car like this unless you plan to drive it fast. They may be intelligent enough to not drive like that on the street, but cars can get wrecked at the track too. So all in all, I'd say about the same as the WRX has been doing.
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