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Old 01-07-2003, 03:35 PM   #1
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Old 01-07-2003, 03:45 PM   #2
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In the weeds?

"The STi is four inches lower than the WRX and...."

HAHAHA
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Old 01-07-2003, 03:56 PM   #3
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In the weeds?

"The STi is four inches lower than the WRX and...."

HAHAHA
Whoops. They dropped a decimal point. As we all know, the STi will 0.4 inches lower than the WRX.
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Old 01-07-2003, 04:08 PM   #4
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what kind of an idiot was stupid enough to overlook that careless mistake. How could anyone with common sense not question why a performance STREET vehicle would be 4" lower than its counterpart??? After all, we're not dealing with Honda's. If this was some sort of "Super Honda", a 4" drop would be understandable, but we're talking Subaru here
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Old 01-07-2003, 04:10 PM   #5
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The car is powered by a 2.5-liter dohc engine mated to a six-speed transmission and has been tuned for a harsh, rally-car-like ride, according to the company
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Old 01-07-2003, 05:30 PM   #6
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what kind of an idiot was stupid enough to overlook that. If this was some sort of "Super Honda", a 4" drop would be understandable, but we're talking Subaru here


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Old 01-07-2003, 05:34 PM   #7
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"The STi is four inches lower than the WRX and carries of 17-inch alloys Bridgestone Potenza performance tires. "

what does "carries of 17-inch alloys" mean? someone shoot the editor. maybe they were too excited by the car to check the editorial for accuracy and grammar

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Old 01-08-2003, 12:47 AM   #8
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First of all, the difference between .4" and 4" is simply a decimal point, and a copy editor's realizing that AutoWeek style isn't the " symbol, but the word inches. The change is made, the error is done. It happens. Don't forget that humans produce the product.

AutoWeek is an excellently written, researched and reported magazine. And as a journalist, I challenge any of you to come and do my job for a year, without making errors or having errors caught that you think are "stupid," or "drivel." Trust me, mistakes getting into the paper or the Web are a LOT easier than you think. Just look at the corrections section of the NY Times or Wall Street Journal every day. For example, the Times, the pinnacle of American newspapers, had a picture of Clash guitarist Mick Jones instead of Joe Strummer, connected to an article about the late rocker. Stupid? Not unless we know what happened. But happen it does, for any number of reasons.

It could have been on deadline, and was simply dumped to the Web edition of AutoWeek. This happens. After all, just look at the grammar and spelling on this very message board. The AutoWeek piece is elegant prose compared to much of that.

Further, it sounds like the AutoWeek guy did some reporting. We don't know how the USDM STi is going to be tuned, suspension-wise. It could well have a "harsh, rally car-like ride." We don't know yet. All we know are that it's coming, and what the specs are.



It's all about perspective, kids. Just chill.

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Old 01-08-2003, 01:00 AM   #9
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I've come to the realization that this is the reason most journalists do not participate in forums and other public discussions on a regular basis - not because of mistakes, per se, though those will certainly crop up - but because of the continous amount of justification for every single thing you write up. The other major reason, of course, is because the majority of automotive journalists are not all that web-savvy.

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First of all, the difference between .4" and 4" is simply a decimal point
[nasa scientist]eh, what difference does a decimal point make[nasa scientist]
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Whatever, Autoweek is stupid, they know the SRT-4 is the fastest, evAr!!!!
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After all, just look at the grammar and spelling on this very message board. The AutoWeek piece is elegant prose compared to much of that.

Further, it sounds like the AutoWeek guy did some reporting. We don't know how the USDM STi is going to be tuned, suspension-wise. It could well have a "harsh, rally car-like ride." We don't know yet. All we know are that it's coming, and what the specs are.



It's all about perspective, kids. Just chill.

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Kevin, isn't this the same "harsh, rally-car-like ride" that you've been posting about for the last year?

I think it was just a rushed article that never got proofread, and that phrase (among others) got garbled somewhere. Or ... maybe it really is dropped 4" ... which might explain the harsh ride.
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First of all, the difference between .4" and 4" is simply a decimal point, and a copy editor's realizing that AutoWeek style isn't the " symbol, but the word inches. The change is made, the error is done. It happens. Don't forget that humans produce the product.

AutoWeek is an excellently written, researched and reported magazine. And as a journalist, I challenge any of you to come and do my job for a year, without making errors or having errors caught that you think are "stupid," or "drivel." Trust me, mistakes getting into the paper or the Web are a LOT easier than you think. Just look at the corrections section of the NY Times or Wall Street Journal every day. For example, the Times, the pinnacle of American newspapers, had a picture of Clash guitarist Mick Jones instead of Joe Strummer, connected to an article about the late rocker. Stupid? Not unless we know what happened. But happen it does, for any number of reasons.

It could have been on deadline, and was simply dumped to the Web edition of AutoWeek. This happens. After all, just look at the grammar and spelling on this very message board. The AutoWeek piece is elegant prose compared to much of that.

Further, it sounds like the AutoWeek guy did some reporting. We don't know how the USDM STi is going to be tuned, suspension-wise. It could well have a "harsh, rally car-like ride." We don't know yet. All we know are that it's coming, and what the specs are.



It's all about perspective, kids. Just chill.

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ha ha! just because you are bad at reading comprehension...! thbbt
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Old 01-08-2003, 09:45 AM   #14
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[nasa scientist]eh, what difference does a decimal point make[nasa scientist]
Direct from the desk at NASA, if the decimal point is inadverdently excised (when using notes mode in word processing programs at newspapers and magazines, it happens all the time), .4 becomes 4.

Further, we don't know if the STi will have the same suspension tuning as the dealer kit sold as a WRX option. It could be harsher and more uncompromising, especially if, for example, it gets much stiffer bushings everywhere. Hence, my admonition to wait and see.

And I think that you're probably right, Paul. All day I spend time worrying about words and how they're used, keeping accuracy paramount and resolving matters of style as related to the words that I must deal with.

Then I come here and see appalling grammar and willy-nilly capitalization. No, I daresay that I would put my reading comprehension, and the quality thereof, against that of anyone around, mostly because it's what I do.

But I repeat. If you can, any of you, a newspaper or magazine near you almost certainly has internships available, sometimes unpaid, but the experience is valuable. Apply for one, and if you're accepted, take it and give the job a try. It's harder than you think. Further, try reporting on something, or editing something of which you have no direct and extensive knowledge, as could have been the case with the editor who worked the piece, since copy editors are usually hired without knowledge specificity. A comma splice is universal, after all.

You can't excuse the AutoWeek errors, but I can certainly see how they happened. We all make mistakes.

I think as a whole, message boards like this one have useful information, but they can also be like crabs in a barrel--everyone trying to tear everything down. Why wait for the facts, when we can tear something down, and get upset based on supposition? It's more fun that way.

After all, that AutoWeek writer filed from the scene, as opposed to sitting in front of a computer keyboard somewhere. It only makes sense that he would be the most ignorant of what was said.

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It could have been on deadline, and was simply dumped to the Web edition of AutoWeek. This happens. After all, just look at the grammar and spelling on this very message board. The AutoWeek piece is elegant prose compared to much of that.

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