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Old 01-08-2003, 09:23 AM   #1
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Default STi = High Theft ???

Was talking w/ a friend who had a Type R (real one) that was stolen right about his garage....

We both believe that the STi will be like the Type R because ALL the parts can trickle down to the WRX, 2.5RS, even the other models (legacy & outbacks)....sort of like how the Type R parts where used on GS-R, LS integras and other hondas (civics & etc.)

Anybody else believes that the STi will have a very very high theft rate?
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Old 01-08-2003, 09:27 AM   #2
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but I think it will. I have a type r now and I want to get rid of it due to stress value ... and I want and Sti instead but I think the Sti and Wrx won't be on such high demand .. most young Ricers buy civics and can't afford WRX's
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Old 01-08-2003, 10:09 AM   #3
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No. Not enough Subaru owners to pawn the parts on to. They need lots of owners due to the tiny percentage of people in the market for stolen car parts. Remember how tiny Subaru is- 1% of the market.
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Old 01-08-2003, 10:59 AM   #4
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No. Not enough Subaru owners to pawn the parts on to. They need lots of owners due to the tiny percentage of people in the market for stolen car parts. Remember how tiny Subaru is- 1% of the market.
Exactly. This would mean that to do it they would need to have a wrx or 2.5 in the garage or know a shady suby owner to sell to. It will most likely be a joyride and ditch it type thing not a chop shop job. Besides there are many more shady hondu owners than shady subie owners by the #s alone
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Old 01-08-2003, 11:11 AM   #5
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Beleve it or not, but a car that has a big theft percentage is late 1980's to early 1990's Toyota Camery's, since the parts off of those things go for mucho bucko's
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Old 01-08-2003, 11:17 AM   #6
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The type of theft ring that might be interested in the STi would be the ones that take overseas orders and ship them via container. Considering the uniqueness and apparent superiority of this version, this sort of theft seems plausible.
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Old 01-08-2003, 11:22 AM   #7
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I tend to think the theft rate will be pretty high, as is common with limited production cars. The assumption that you would need a bunch of buyers willing to buy stolen parts doesn't hold water. A stolen car can be stripped of parts, the parts can then make their way to the classifieds on this or other Subie websites. The buyer can easily pose as someone with a wrecked car or extra stock parts due to upgrades, whatever. Anyone purchasing over the internet would have no first hand dealings with the seller and would likely never know the parts they bought are stolen. It happens and it may happen to us.
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Old 01-08-2003, 11:55 AM   #8
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There are plenty of people out there that steal Subarus in the NW... All kinds, not just WRXs.

The STI will probably have the highest per capita Subaru theft ratio out of any Subaru ever built. After all, it is THE fastest one they ever made here, lending itself to be an excellent getaway car...
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Old 01-08-2003, 12:28 PM   #9
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I can see the idea of theft for parts to be sold over the internet and such. On the other hand, to think that some group would be doing a "Gone in 60 Seconds" move to ship it elsewhere doesn't hold. The costs and risks of that shipment isn't worth it for a $35,000 car. This is not an exotic.
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Old 01-08-2003, 12:55 PM   #10
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it will be one of the highest stolen cars along with the EVO8....

everyone wants their parts, and it isnt hard to get rid of them.
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Old 01-08-2003, 01:10 PM   #11
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I fully agree, it probabley being the no.1 import car theft next year. The parts are in too much demand, to say if you have the first one on the block, it will get stolen.
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Old 01-08-2003, 01:21 PM   #12
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with this said, who is still getting one?

I am..I guess I'm going to have to deal with it..I live in downtown LA also..enough crime going on..
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Old 01-08-2003, 01:56 PM   #13
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#1, a good alarm system

#2, ditch the spoiler and badges and make it look like a WRX or 2.5rs to anyone who doesn't know Subaru's well.
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Old 01-08-2003, 07:03 PM   #14
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Lojack.
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Old 01-08-2003, 07:21 PM   #15
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Old 01-08-2003, 08:07 PM   #16
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A stolen car can be stripped of parts, the parts can then make their way to the classifieds on this or other Subie websites.
And how many times have we seen some dumb ass get caught trying to sell the parts off the RX-7 he stole to the guy he stole the car from on the internet?? Sure it will be the most stolen Subaru by capita, but thats not difficult to achieve considering there's only going to be 3000 of them. I mean who would really want to steal a Legacy or a Forester? STi's won't be stolen as much as you think because there is really no market for the stolen parts. There's a lot of people who would like STi parts on their WRX, but on the other hand not many of them will go through illegal means to obtain them(at least I hope they won't). Me thinks there will be enough people stripping and modifying their STi's to meet the demand of STi parts anyway. You can get away with ripping off Type R's because there is literally millions of Hondas to put those parts on. But there aren't nearly as many Imprezas out there.


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Old 01-08-2003, 09:35 PM   #17
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i hope not. i sold my integra type-r because of repeated attempted thefts/vandalism/insurance rates/police harassment. at one point itrs were being stolen locally at a rate of 2 per month. i would go to the wrecking yard and there would be as many as 6 stolen/recoveries stacked on top of each other that were stripped to the shell.

but ever since i got the wrx.... nothing. please stay that way?

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Old 01-08-2003, 11:13 PM   #18
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I fully agree, it probabley being the no.1 import car theft next year. The parts are in too much demand, to say if you have the first one on the block, it will get stolen.
sorry you're very wrong. There will be less STIs made than the amount of hondas that get stolen every year. There was an article awhile back in popular science about this, and the most stolen cars were the accoard, camry, and civic (at least japanese ones). The numbers were huge- far more than the amount of STIs produced in the US.

If you are refering to it as the most common sport sedan that will be stolen, then you are still wrong. For the majority of cars, the theft rate is pretty consistent across all models in regards to # on the road and # stolen. A large part of the reason why so many hondas are stolen is simply because there are so damn many.

Keep in mind that most people who will buy an STI will keep it in a garage. If theives are going to go to the trouble of scoping out a car, and then breaking into a house to steal it, why the hell would they steal an STI? It's not like they will be able to drive it around with only a very small number being available, and you overestimate the amount of chopshops that will go after subarus. You also overestimate the amount of people who will steal STIs for parts. You don't see it with the WRX, and that will not change with the STI.

I'd be much more worried if I had a luxury car or sport coupe. Those are much easier to make dissappear.
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Old 01-08-2003, 11:38 PM   #19
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Lojack.

....is next to useless against a real chopshop type of operation.

My friend in my complex had his ITR stolen (decent neighborhood for the SF Bay area) right out from under his own apartment. He had an aftermarket alarm AND lojack.

There was no noise, no broken glass, and the cops found the shell in Oakland in 36 hours. The job was so clean that his insurance company accused him of being involved in the theft. He drives a WRX now.

Scary...but I really doubt the STi will be a high theft car...just my opinion though.

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Old 01-09-2003, 12:33 AM   #20
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I know in Australia, the STi's are one of the most frequently stolen cars but not for black market resale or stripping for parts..... bank robbers would steal an STi before they rob a bank or something so they can get away from the cops easier This is true!!!

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Old 01-09-2003, 01:48 AM   #21
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but I think it will. I have a type r now and I want to get rid of it due to stress value ... and I want and Sti instead but I think the Sti and Wrx won't be on such high demand .. most young Ricers buy civics and can't afford WRX's
The same reason im selling my R.
And i bought a house too and I want to dump as much cash into it now.
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Old 01-09-2003, 09:50 AM   #22
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I think im gonna get Lojack

Does anyone know how well lojack works?
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