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Old 02-24-2001, 12:35 AM   #1
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Post Is that normal for stock RS turn in corners in snow will fish tail?

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Is that normal for stock RS turn in corners in snow will fish tail?

Today when I have a right turn about 40-50km/h and there are snow on the road and I feel the tail loose, is that normal?
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Old 02-24-2001, 12:36 AM   #2
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Were you on the gas? Anything that sends power to the rear tires will bring the rear end around on you if you hit a corner hot, unless the fronts don't bite at all, then you'll just plow.
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Old 02-24-2001, 12:48 AM   #3
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I brake before I turn into the corner, then in the middle of the corner (or the apex), I gradually step on the gas to keep the speed constantly.

Is that wrong?
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Old 02-24-2001, 12:56 AM   #4
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Well, technically under ideal situations (i.e. dry road) you're doing things correctly.

What MY is your RS? If it's a MY2x, it'll have a limited slip differential in the rear. With the power being distributed to the rear tires (somewhat) evenly, it's easy to bring the rear end around in low-traction environments such as snow. Heck, the first time it snowed here in Vancouver I was pulling out of the parking lot at work. I gassed it a bit too much on the snow and did a 720 without even thinking! Good thing nobody was around. Anyhoo, just be careful out there in the snow. We may be able to "go" easier than anyone else, but when it comes to stopping, we're in the same boat as everyone else!

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Old 02-24-2001, 01:02 AM   #5
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My car is MY00 AT.

Agree "We may be able to "go" easier than anyone else, but when it comes to stopping, we're in the same boat as everyone else!"

I even expreienced the ABS works so hard, I have to brake in less than a sec and I step on the brake and the ABS works out make the pedal so hard and the noise from the brake make me feel secure.

So what is the correct procedure for turning in the snow?

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Old 02-24-2001, 06:09 AM   #6
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Slow down!

AWD is cool and everything, but it is not magic. The laws of physics still apply.
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Old 02-24-2001, 10:02 AM   #7
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Seems normal to me. That's what happened to me, too, and hence why I crashed.

Pics are on my web site:

<a href="http://www.rs25.com">http://www.rs25.com</a>

Wish I had known about it BEFOREhand!
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Old 02-24-2001, 10:19 AM   #8
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Yes, it's normal. Don't drive so fast on snow. AWD is useless if ALL four wheels are slipping-

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Old 02-24-2001, 05:50 PM   #9
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Ice is not your friend. I almost found out what an Xtera and an RS look like when joined at the passenger door. Glad ABS works.
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Old 02-24-2001, 06:25 PM   #10
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V6,
yah....that's normal. Heh, my RS is stock suspension too except for the crappy winter slaloms i have on steelies.
If u give it some gas in the middle of the turn u'll feel like ur floating out of it, but if u give it a little too much u'll exit in a power slide. It's a very fine line. I brake before entering too cause no matter what, if u going to fast, ur going to understeer. When i think of it, i don't think my ABS actually every engages when i'm doing that. Slow in, fast out...that's the rule i use.

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Old 02-25-2001, 02:00 PM   #11
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did you ever think there might have been some black ice or just some loose slush that could have effected the car. There are tons of variables that are at play when you drive. Let alone try to get the best line out of a turn..
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Old 02-25-2001, 04:31 PM   #12
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lol.. i miss the subie we had some REALLY nice icy/rain and well i woulda been using the drift style Fast in, gas it all the way, drift out...ease off the gas counter steer, lay back on the throttle. aghh..i really miss that car

and yes that is completely normal because you do have power going to the rear wheels and also becuase of the centre diff sending more power to the rear becuase your fronts were slipping (based on your descrription this is my guess) and thus caused to the rear tyres to get more power breaking free and thus causing you to "fish" tail if you will
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