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Old 10-20-2000, 01:08 PM   #1
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Try double clutching after you pull it out of gear but before you put it back into the next gear.
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Old 10-20-2000, 01:17 PM   #2
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My transmission has always had problems going into first (especially if moving), and often third and rarely fouth. (At least they fixed fifth!)

I got the Kartboy Kombo with the hope that it would be better without the sloppyness. It's about the same, plus the extra effort involved with a shorter lever... but still no regrets!
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Old 10-21-2000, 12:33 AM   #3
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Question Problems with the Kartboy shifter?

I'm not trying to start a post to knock Tom...the shifter and the bushings are awesome. I've had it for few months now and I love the feel of it. My only question is this...does anyone who has installed the shifter and the urethane (sp) bushings have any problems shifting into first? Almost everytime I try, it grinds. I have to push kinda hard to the left to make sure it doesn't. It's not a bad problem, but it does bother me once in a while, especially when racing Solo II. I keep imagining all the shavings in my transmission.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 10-21-2000, 12:40 AM   #4
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Have you tried switching back to the stock shifter? It may just be a trans. problem...
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Old 10-21-2000, 12:48 AM   #5
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Have you pulled the plastic and carpet off of the area aroudn the hole for the shifter ?

I ask because I have the Cobb shifter and my sift fork would bind against the metal plate that surrounds the hole. I cut the plate to clear it.

I thought the designs were different enough that Kartboy's didn't have that problem, but you may want to check it out.

Hope I can help a little.

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Old 10-21-2000, 12:59 AM   #6
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Cliff Ditchhanger:

I get that too but not pretty often. Usually after reversing and the going to 1st I get a grind and thats it. I remember when I had my stock shifter it happened once. So now with the short shifter I guess the chances have increased.
Its not a big problem for me..it only happens like once a month. If it happens frequently on you you should put back the stock shifter and see if it goes away. If it doesnt then you know its the tranny.
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Old 10-21-2000, 10:56 AM   #7
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Thanks for the help guys, I do appreciate it. I'm not dissatisfied at all, just curious.
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Old 10-21-2000, 10:58 AM   #8
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occasionally I have difficulty and have to kinda wiggle the clutch and gears to get it to go into first or reverse..


but I've heard that alot.. even with stock setups..
so I don't think it's shifter related at all..

I've got the Kartboy with bushings..
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Old 10-21-2000, 05:21 PM   #9
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You may be trying to shift too fast. You can only shift as fast as the sincros will allow you to. When you try to shift faster than it takes the sincros to get the gear up to speed, ggggrrrrind! Take it easy, that's my advice. Your shift is now shorter, but not really faster.
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Old 02-28-2001, 08:57 AM   #10
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this may solve your problems:

http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/000580.html

i am installing my custom made lever tonight (check my other posts to find out about my design for fun), i am doing this before i even put it in to save the trouble of later doing it

good luck,

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Old 02-28-2001, 11:46 AM   #11
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I have the Kartboy, didn't install the bushings yet and have ZERO issues.

Stupid question but.... did you check you installed it correctly.
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Old 02-28-2001, 11:48 AM   #12
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I just got mine in the mail today, 30 minutes later I took it out for a test drive and I am in incredibly impressed!!!!! I started to getworried if I was going to have the same problem but so far so good.
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Old 02-28-2001, 09:04 PM   #13
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Cliff -

1. Cut the surrounding plate. Mine wasn't making contact but I relieved it anyway just to make sure.

2. When you really want to fix the problem switch to a good gear lube. The engineers at Redline recommended mixing 75w-140NS and 75w-90NS and I did so - the first gear grinding is significantly reduced. In fact, I have not experienced it since doing the switch. I would advise you to go equal parts 75w-90NS and 75w-140NS. There have been so many threads on this it brings me to the brink of tears to even think about it, but you might want to do a search.
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Old 03-01-2001, 09:52 AM   #14
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1. Don't cut the surrounding plate. The rod that goes from the shifter pivot point to the tranny shift shaft shold be bent somewhat to allow clearence. If not, you can remove the rod and bend it a little more. That way you can fix the problem without cutting anything.

2. When you really want to fix the problem switch to a good synthetic ATF. The engineers at Mobil recommended Mobil-1 synthetic ATF and I did so - the first gear grinding is significantly reduced. In fact, I have not experienced it since doing the switch. I would advise you to go buy some Mobil-1 synthetic ATF and try it. There have been so many threads on this it brings me to the brink of madness to even think about it, but you might want to do a search.


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Old 03-01-2001, 10:45 AM   #15
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It's not the shifter; I've had the same thing happen on my car from time to time, and it's happened on another's car when I took it for a spin. They both had regular shifters. I'm not sure why it happens; it happens too infrequently for me to test it out and find the definite cause.
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Old 03-01-2001, 10:56 AM   #16
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Try a STi tranny mount to take the slop out of your shifter.
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Old 03-01-2001, 07:31 PM   #17
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Al, have you totally flippin' lost it?

Bend the linkage?? Which would involve removing it from the car (no big deal, eh?) and altering the fit and possibly function of the stock rod (but nobody ever wants to put their car back to stock I guess), when instead you could relieve the surround with a very small investment of time and effort?

Perhaps you are also a fan of siphoning the engine oil out of the dipstick tube so you don't have to replace the crush washer? Thanks, but no thanks, and I'll stick to trimming the surround!
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Old 03-01-2001, 07:40 PM   #18
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ATF?? Why are you putting ATF in a manual transmission?? Is it actually good to have such a thin oil in the manual tranny?
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Old 03-01-2001, 08:02 PM   #19
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Avenger - a lot of manual transmissions use ATF... Borg-Warners, for example. Al
s results would seem to indicate that lubes like MTL would also be good in the RS, but on Trey's site he discourages the use of MTL. Unknown as well is whether the ATF meets the GL-5 specs, or whether it is even necessary to have a GL-5 lube in the transmission. It is mystery to me why Al doesn't get massive grinding when hot, but apparently it works just fine. I dunno, there are some things we just don't understand. I am not alone in thinking that it's lunacy to put engine oil in the rear diff, though.
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Old 03-01-2001, 10:05 PM   #20
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Why not contact Kartboy?
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Old 03-01-2001, 10:36 PM   #21
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Why not contact Kartboy? Because it's not a shifter-lever problem. It's a shifter (person) problem.
I have the Kartboy on my '01 and the only time I ever grind the gears is when I forget to push the clutch all the way in. I learned a long time ago that cars don't really care for shifting into 1st or reverse while moving. A constant pressure (not forcing) on the lever will get the synchros up to speed and it will slip in eventually. It takes a second or two. The RS has enough torque that you really shouldn't need 1st gear except when you are at a stop or doing a rolling-drag race.
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