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Old 01-10-2003, 02:51 PM   #1
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Angry Does any law or written test stat that slow traffic stay on the left lane?

Does any law or written test stat that slow traffic stay in left lane?

i have seen and mad about most of the ppl stay in left lane about 40MPH on Highway. Specially NYC and NJ?

is that a law? they don't give way.
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Old 01-10-2003, 02:53 PM   #2
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Here it is illegal to ride in the left lane unless you are passing. You WILL receive a ticket for this if a cruiser comes up behind you in the left lane.
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Old 01-10-2003, 02:54 PM   #3
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I've seen those people get pulled over a few tmes in MA and CT as well. It rarely does, but it HAS happened.
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Old 01-10-2003, 03:07 PM   #4
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The law is: Keep right, pass left.
There is no such thing as "the fast lane", it's the passing lane. This makes me so mad. I personally think that should be the only question on the drivers test, but alas, this law is almost never enforced.
Interestingly, this is the main reason why the Autobahn, with no speed limit, has a better safety record than american highways. Over there, they actually obey this law and if a Porsche comes up on them at 160mph, they move over. Amazing stuff, no?

Also, imagine what this would do for our horrendous traffic problems.
Now I'm pissed.
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LLCC...

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Old 01-10-2003, 03:31 PM   #6
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Here it is illegal to ride in the left lane unless you are passing. You WILL receive a ticket for this if a cruiser comes up behind you in the left lane.
Never seen it happen
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Old 01-10-2003, 03:32 PM   #7
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Here it is illegal to ride in the left lane unless you are passing. You WILL receive a ticket for this if a cruiser comes up behind you in the left lane.
The even better part is that I've seen cops pass on the right cause people haven't gotten out of their way. Oh, and the cops were going Code3 (lights and siren) It's those GD morons that really piss me off on the highways.


And I guess you guys didn't get the memo on the lane change thing? It looks like this now....

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Slow lane
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Passing Lane/Fast lane
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Old 01-10-2003, 03:45 PM   #8
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Never seen it happen
Drive on route 30 near Greensburg. You'll see it. Southwest Greensburg cops are bastards.
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Old 01-10-2003, 03:51 PM   #9
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Here it is illegal to ride in the left lane unless you are passing. You WILL receive a ticket for this if a cruiser comes up behind you in the left lane.
If I EVER see that happen in NJ on my way to or from work, I will post a picture of myself in a schoolgirl's outfit with "I am NASIOC's bitch" written on my chest.
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Old 01-10-2003, 03:53 PM   #10
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Cops in Jersey are too busy with drive-by shootings and robberies to worry about people driving slow in the left lane. Do they even give traffic tickets in New Jersey?
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Old 01-10-2003, 03:56 PM   #11
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in ohio, there is no "left lane is for passing only". most speed limits are either 60-65, minimum of 40. you can pass in either lane here.
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Old 01-10-2003, 04:00 PM   #12
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Odd.

Around here the lanes are pretty much open to anyone (except HOV). Slower traffic always tends to migrate right, however the other 2 somties 3 lanes are just full of people going from point a to point b.


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Old 01-10-2003, 09:26 PM   #13
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in ohio, there is no "left lane is for passing only". most speed limits are either 60-65, minimum of 40. you can pass in either lane here.

i know that's minimun of 40 on some highways. But imagine if some highway are only 2 lanes, ppl drive 40MPH on right lane, and some dummies drive 40MPH on left lane too. AND they don't give way. u will stay on the highway for 3 hours by following 2 dummies.


if anybody know any of ur friends or co-worker, specially ladies or OLD people, in NYC or Tri-state area drive 40 on highway. Tell them to give way. THANKS
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Old 01-11-2003, 03:24 AM   #14
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I'm in CA, so the only restricted left lanes usage is for "Carpool" lanes. There is far too much traffic, and far to few lanes, to limit a lane to people who are only "passing."

Besides, technically, when I sit in the left lane, I am passing. I am travelling faster than people in the other lanes, so I sit in the left lane to limit the number of lane changes I make. If someone behind me is moving faster than me, I move over one (and only one) lane until he (and any other faster cars) pass, then I'll move back to the left lane.

If I were to just keep "passing" in and out of the left lane, it would be far worse than just sitting in the left lane and travelling 8... I mean... the speed of traffic.
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Old 01-11-2003, 06:20 AM   #15
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Odd.

Around here the lanes are pretty much open to anyone (except HOV). Slower traffic always tends to migrate right, however the other 2 somties 3 lanes are just full of people going from point a to point b.


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Yeah but you can get pulled over for squating on the left lane. I usually put the Hellas on for my road trips. It helps to clear up the situation
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Old 01-11-2003, 09:53 AM   #16
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In VA you must yield to an overtaking vehicle if your have a lane to move right.

From Section 2 of the VA Drivers Manual
"Aggressive Driving

This dangerous driving behavior is defined by Virginia law as the intent to harass, intimidate, injure or obstruct another person while committing one or more traffic offenses such as failure to stop or yield the right-of-way, evasion of a traffic control device or failure to give way to an over-taking vehicle. Refer to page 3-1 for more information on aggressive driving."

From Section 3 of the VA Drivers Manual

"If the driver behind you is following too closely, do not brake suddenly. If possible, move over to another lane. Or, when the way ahead is clear, flash your brake lights and slow down. This should encourage the tailgater to pass you.

If you are traveling slower than the traffic around you on a multi-lane highway, drive in the right-hand lane."

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Old 01-11-2003, 01:39 PM   #17
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i think part of the problem is that there aren't enough lanes to handle the amount of traffic we have. the germany reference earlier works because they actually DO have a fast lane and slow lane. you pretty much move as fast as you want. if you feel like going slower, you move over right, if you want to go faster, you go left.

here, we have a speed limit that is low enough that almost everyone is comfortable driving it or faster. we also usually have 2-3 lanes on our freeways, and with the amount of traffic we have, it isn't possible to stay right and move left for passing. we need to use both lanes for the amount of traffic we have, and this leaves no room for a passing lane.

i think i had heard before that a lane of freeway can handle about 1000 cars an hour maximum. that's about right, but we try to squeeze about 1500 - 2000 cars an hour into those lanes and it doesn't work so well.
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I think in Georgia the law is that all trucks over like 6 wheels have to be in the left 2 lanes on 3 or 4 laned sides of highway. Now thats retarded because they don't get out of the way of faster traffic which makes you have to pass in right lanes.
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Old 01-11-2003, 05:46 PM   #19
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Halfbaked - That cannot be true. In many states, incluing Georgia, trucks are limited to the right two lanes. And that is absolutely true for I-285 around Atlanta and the freeways feeding into Atlanta.

Not the other way around.

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Old 01-11-2003, 05:54 PM   #20
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TFW - According to state law, you're wrong.

RCW 46.61.100 (and yes, I've got it memorized) is the keep-right-except-to-pass law. There are like 4 or 5 items dealing with different types of road. I think it's the 3rd one down that deals with multi-lane highways.

And it's illegal for trucks with trailers to occupy the far left lane in some areas. Down by Vancouver they've got signs stating so. And near Seattle there are signs stating that trucks over ~12k gross weight are to keep out of the left two lanes (405 through bellevue/kirkland)
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I'm in CA, so the only restricted left lanes usage is for "Carpool" lanes. There is far too much traffic, and far to few lanes, to limit a lane to people who are only "passing."

Besides, technically, when I sit in the left lane, I am passing. I am travelling faster than people in the other lanes, so I sit in the left lane to limit the number of lane changes I make. If someone behind me is moving faster than me, I move over one (and only one) lane until he (and any other faster cars) pass, then I'll move back to the left lane.

If I were to just keep "passing" in and out of the left lane, it would be far worse than just sitting in the left lane and travelling 8... I mean... the speed of traffic.
CVC 21654. (a) Notwithstanding the prima facie speed limits, any vehicle proceeding upon a highway at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time shall be driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(b) If a vehicle is being driven at a speed less than the normal speed of traffic moving in the same direction at such time, and is not being driven in the right-hand lane for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand edge or curb, it shall constitute prima facie evidence that the driver is operating the vehicle in violation of subdivision (a) of this section.

(c) The Department of Transportation, with respect to state highways, and local authorities, with respect to highways under their jurisdiction, may place and maintain upon highways official signs directing slow-moving traffic to use the right-hand traffic lane except when overtaking and passing another vehicle or preparing for a left turn.

Mainly Sub. b

Gotta love it in the early morning, old VW Bettle gets on the freeway, straight to the left lane, no one else on the freeway doing 45-50.

Basically "Slow traffic keep right"
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:28 AM   #22
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The law is: Keep right, pass left.
There is no such thing as "the fast lane", it's the passing lane. This makes me so mad. I personally think that should be the only question on the drivers test, but alas, this law is almost never enforced.
Interestingly, this is the main reason why the Autobahn, with no speed limit, has a better safety record than american highways. Over there, they actually obey this law and if a Porsche comes up on them at 160mph, they move over. Amazing stuff, no?

Also, imagine what this would do for our horrendous traffic problems.
Now I'm pissed.

Actually, there is a speed limit on the Autobahn. Very few cops though. They have camera's set up everywhere, and the way my family told me when I was driving on there, is that if you are in the left lane, and not driving like an idiot (multiple lane changes), then the camera will not go off. One thing you learn really fast on the Autobahn, if a car comes up behind you with his left turn signal on, get out of his way. If he has to flash his high beams at you PRAY FOR YOUR LIFE!
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:46 AM   #23
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Actually if you want my opinion, I think the government
should SLOWLY make the transisition to the Autobahn. put
more cops on highway patroll and stop people who use
'overly agressive driving' that is tail gating and so forth.


Basically, to implement the autobahn in america, you'd
have to slowly increase the speed limit over a period of 5
to 10 years.

If you were to do it overnight, you'd make people angry, others
wouldn't know or be sure if their was a speed change, and
people would start running over old ladies who like to ride the
left lane at 40mph.

Eventually, once people determine that doing 110mph sucks
fuel faster than an idling V12, and they discover that it's
safer and eaiser to drive slower, the whole speeding issue will
fall off. people will choose the speed they feel comfortable with
and their will become two interstate/highway described lanes.

The fast and slow lane.

IIRC, their was a state which had a dispute over weather or
not to keep the 'drive at reasonable speed' law in effect (some
people deemed it wreckless, crazy, unconstitutional and so forth)
during this debating period, this perticular state (forgot which)
did _NOT_ have a speed limit of any kind.

The results? over this sixth month period, fatalities on the
road, as well as general car accidents/wrecks decreased
considerablly. once the speed limit was reinstated, they subsequently
increased .

I feel that people, no matter what age. LIKE to break the law,
they LIKE to joy ride, while they may not do it every time and it
may not be very serious offenses. that one joy ride at 130mph
on a highway that's not really overflowing with traffic at a speed
limit of 55mph is enough to kill a dozen people in one incident.

However, the same joyrider and the same set of people all
together traveling at a speed they feel safe at doing on
some roadway will result in a decrease of accidents.

Because people are not restricted, then they have the chance
to explore the limits of their fear, and as they do so; they set
lower limits for themselves and realize how unsafe some speeds
can be. these limits are more suitable, and they are safer and
much more consistant with the rest of the flow of traffic. They
aren't as encouraged to break the law, when their is no law set.

However, in this perfect situation, their are people who refuse
to behave responsibly. that's what the extra cops are for.
They'll be able to identify people with road rage, or thoese who
must ride the bumper of everyone they come across.

This is something that has to be tried and tested, it's got to
be slowly implemented. Immediate national change will make for
extra problems.


Basically that's my rant. their should be change, because the
current way of doing it only costs more lives. all of these kids today
go out wanting to have fun, and the only way they can do that
is by excessive speeding in a low speedlimit area. it puts
everyone at risk, however if everyone else was traveling at
a higher speedlimit, the people who want to have fun would
quickly realize that going too much faster would quickly end up
in their death.
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Actually, there is a speed limit on the Autobahn. Very few cops though. They have camera's set up everywhere, and the way my family told me when I was driving on there, is that if you are in the left lane, and not driving like an idiot (multiple lane changes), then the camera will not go off. One thing you learn really fast on the Autobahn, if a car comes up behind you with his left turn signal on, get out of his way. If he has to flash his high beams at you PRAY FOR YOUR LIFE!
sort of. there is a speed limit in some places, in other areas of the autobahn, there aren't - and it goes by the old standard of the good state of Montana before reinstating their speed limit - "Reasonable and Prudent"

so even in areas of the autobahn in germany where there are not speed limits, you can get a ticket for reckless/fast driving.

why do people always forget the Autostrata in Italy? Same as the Autobahn. That's where I first traveled at 200 k/hr!
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Cops in Jersey are too busy with drive-by shootings and robberies to worry about people driving slow in the left lane. Do they even give traffic tickets in New Jersey?
Dude, why do you think ther's so many drive-bys and robberies in Jersey? The Cops are so busy giving out tickets all day. (actually NJ really isn't that bad - just Newark)
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