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Old 04-28-2001, 02:27 PM   #1
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Post stromung install problems

Ok I got my stromung.

I soaked the bolts holding the factory exhaust on with liquid wrench last night.

I gave them another treatment an hour before attempting to take them off.

I snapped one wrench in half using it and a pipe to try and break one of the bolts loose.

So I went out and bought a real breaker bar and 13mm (I think) head for it.

That stripped the bolt (yes, the head was the correct size, I triple checked).

So now I have a stripped nut and one untouched nut holding the factory exhaust on.

I spent the rest of the day trying to find a muffler shop or heck, even a tire shop that was open on saturday but nobody was.

This MY99 Legacy Outback has 27k miles on it.

Why the hell is my exhaust such a pain to take off????

1 snapped wrench
1 $15 breaker bar
1 $1 head for breaker bar
1 dislocated shoulder

And my nice shiny stromung (thanks gtguy!) is still sitting in the garage.

What do I do?

I am thinking I will have to wait to monday and take it to a muffler shop and get them to torch or cut the bolts off and put new ones in.

-Marc
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Old 04-28-2001, 02:35 PM   #2
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If you got a midpipe with that Stromung, just take the entire old exhaust off...Much easier The bolts holding the midpipe to the cat are much easier to get off, then just take the whole thing as one piece off, and leave the muffler attatched to the midpipe...That's what I had to end up doing...You'll like your Stromung
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Old 04-28-2001, 02:35 PM   #3
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What, there's no Midas near you? Hold off until Monday, there's got to be a shop with a lift near where you work.
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Old 04-28-2001, 02:47 PM   #4
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Waiting until Monday is probably the best thing to do and let a muffler shop do it.

Or if you are really hot to put it on, go to the hardware store and get two replacement nuts/bolts. Take a hack saw or grinder with a cutting wheel (or anything equivalent, like a Dremmel etc.) and cut the bad bolts off. I assume since you had a problem with the first the same will happen to the second bolt. Hopefully the store has a equivalent grade bolt for replacement. Otherwise the muffler shop on Monday.

Good luck, I have had similar situations like yours come up. That is why I have all these new and sometimes weird tools that just collect dust. But when you need something, there is nothing like the correct tool for the job.

Take care.
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Old 04-28-2001, 02:47 PM   #5
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Yeah there is a Midas down the street. Their ad in the yellow pages said Mon-Sat 9-6 however they decided to close early today and nobody was there at 3PM.

I am gonna complain on monday (after they fix my car, of course).

No, I didn't get a mid-pipe with the stromung. It looks like it would be a pain to remove the midpipe what with the metal shielding bolted all around it from the headers back.

Plus, I have no money.

Thanks,

-Marc
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Old 04-28-2001, 03:08 PM   #6
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I did the same thing on my Civic. I tried to install an aftermarket exhaust and the bolt stripped and snapped.

This is what I would do (and this is what I did). Get a high quality pair of locking pliers (go to Home Depot or Sears). Lock the pliers really good to the bolt. Soak all necessary parts with lubricant. Turn the bolt so that the bolt would move. Eventually they loosen up and come out. I also used a little bit of torch to heat up the bolts.

I think it's a 14mm bolt, not 13mm.
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Old 04-28-2001, 09:41 PM   #7
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I had that problem too. Try filing the bolts down a size, make sure you've got the wrench on really well, use your breaker bar and heave on the son-of-a-bitch. If all else fails, use a set of bolt cutters($15 and handy) to get the stubborn piece off.

When you install the Stromung, invest in some stainless bolts and nuts.
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Old 04-28-2001, 11:28 PM   #8
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I hope that you were using a 6pt socket on that. 12pts will strip quicker than....on a saturday night.
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Old 04-29-2001, 04:12 PM   #9
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Went out and got a 6 point 14mm that will attach to the breaker bar I got.

That plus plenty of elbow grease finally broke the damn bolts and let me yank em off.

I put the stromung on, and boy does it sound nice! My only problem is that I am getting a metallic rubbing noise resonating from under the car... I suspect it is rubbing against part of the frame or rear diff cover.

I'm going to try and get some new hangers (mine are really worn and stretched) which should solve the problem. Getting a new midpipe would probably fix it too, but I have no cash right now so that's going to have to wait.

It sounds mean!

It also gives me about 3 inches more ground clearance in the back compared to the subaru OE muffler. Cool!

I'll have pics up tomorrow.

Thanks for all the advice!

-Marc
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Old 04-29-2001, 05:57 PM   #10
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after struggling with my track pipe, I've learned my lesson....

Compressor + Impact wrench = no more headaches..

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Old 04-30-2001, 06:34 AM   #11
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Ok here are the pics and a little commentary.
http://www.remarcable.net/misc/legac.../stromung.html

This thing is great 'cept for the metallic resonance... but that is specific to my car being involved in a rear-end collision and so the midpipe is probably pushed forward, etc etc. Going to have to get all that crap fixed soon.
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