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Old 01-12-2003, 05:49 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Cusco Zero 2R Coilovers/WRX

First off, these are very nice looking and pretty beefy. I don't have a digital camera so no pics, sorry. They come from cusco pre-assembled and ready to bolt on car. Includes pillowball tops up front(camber adj.) and solid non adj. in the rear. Tops are WRB and strut body is polished w/black springs. Contrary to some pictures on the web, they do have a dust boot to keep out the unwanted. These are inverted design so adjustment valve is on bottom of strut. Fitment is perfect. Brake lines and ABS line snap right into place. They come pre set at a drastic drop w/ dampening set at 3 out of 5. I just lowered the front setting to 2 because of front being to bouncy. This one step lower of dampening made a big difference. How low? I measured a 2 inch + drop in front and 1 3/4 in rear. But if you try and stick your foot under the factory side sills, the top of your foot rubs the sill. I have ALK and w/ the subframe being packed down lower, it is only about 3 inches off of ground.(maybe more like 2")
But with the drastic increase in handling even w/ the stock 92's on for winter, I am happy with the height for now. I am now able to take turns 20mph faster w/ the 92's and the 2R's than w/ the 225-45-17 azenis and stock coilovers. Other suspension components on car include: ALK, Hotchkis F/R sway bars(1"), MRT rear endlinks, cusco lower arm bar ver.2, cusco rear strut tower bar and also the Azenis for the track season. Can't wait to put the Azenis on for spring and try it out w/ sticky tires.
This setup is expensive but in my opinion well woth the money.
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Old 01-12-2003, 06:00 PM   #2
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Have fun! And take it easy with speed bumps in parking lots and dips in the road! I love my Cusco coilover system, and that's after some 35,000 plus miles driving with it on my WRX.

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Old 01-12-2003, 07:14 PM   #3
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Glad to hear they are still holding up after 35,000 mi. I was told they have a long life and hopefully you'll get another 35k. Me as well.
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I was wondering where you got your zero2r's at. I really like Cusco quality and fitment.
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Old 01-21-2003, 01:21 AM   #5
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Gruppe-s.com They are a nasioc vendor. They have them in stock now along with many other cusco items. Great prices and unbeatable service. Back to the zero 2r's, ....get them!
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Getting mine in April, also from Gruppe-S. Thanks for the review.
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Old 01-23-2003, 10:32 PM   #7
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neverendingmods / GoodFinder,

What are your opinions on ride quality and noise? I'm very interested in the Zero2Rs, but I don't want to get beat up when I take a 5-6 hour vacation drive or have to listen to creeks and pops...

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downeyer- These are very quiet pillowballs. I've read about many other coilovers being lound and clanky. These are silent. Even now at 8degrees F outside. No creaks or annoying noises.(other than my poly sway bushings) Ride is "bouncy but not jarring, which is good. A 5-6 hr ride would definately get to you w/ the 7/5 springs. Could always opt for the 6/4 springs. I have the 7/5 and after 1.5 hours it gets a little old. Somebody else may have experience w/ the 6/5 springs. Maybe they'll chime in.
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neverendingmods,

Thanks for the quick reply. Currently, I consider the stock setup a little bumpy over the smaller imperfections in the road, but it is more than acceptable. Seems like the stock struts absorb the larger imperfections better than the smaller ones. Anyway, a little more bump is not a bad thing Would you consider the bumpiness of the a little more than stock, or substantially more than stock?

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Old 01-24-2003, 12:51 AM   #10
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Downeyer- Honestly, it's a lot bouncier but I haven't lowered dampening all the way yet. The concrete interstates are where you really feel it. If you saw my orig. post I have a lot of other items too thet were put on before the zero 2 r's. They alone made it drastically more bouncy than stock. Now, there is a tighter feeling car. Doesn't feel like the fronts wheels are shaking while going over bumps. It does feel like a race inspired setup not a true "comfort setup". This is a aggressive setup for unthusiasts. Your wife or girlfriend(or both )will need a sports bra.
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hehe...or maybe they won't need one

Thanks for the info...it's helpful...

What's made you decide to go with the Cuscos? I'm debating between the Cuscos, SPT kit, and JIC FLT-A2s.
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I was looking for an aggressive setup whick almost ertainly eliminates the SPT. It's a good suspension, but not what I was looking for. Too "all around" type. The JIC's A2 are loud from what others who have are saying. But it is a really aggressive suspension and great quality. They came in third. I was actually looking at the Zeal Function B6(there top of the line). Really expensive and hard to find. Upward of $2,500 but oh so nice . The zero 2R's were a second choice , but won because of cost difference. All these suspensions are great. It's tough to pick one. It took me awhile to decide. Do alot of research for what suits your needs more.

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Old 01-24-2003, 08:18 PM   #13
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Awesome, sounds like Cuscos are for me too I'm sure the SPT kit is good, but I don't think it will get me to the level that I want.

Are these the same as the FLT-A2s where you can adjust the ride height, but not affect strut travel? Also, when you adjust the damping, does it click or do you have to try and line it up with something?

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Yes, the shock body is threaded and this is where height is altered. Not from spring perch. Changing of ride height does not affect spring rate. The dampening adj. valve "clicks" into different settings w/ a line pointing at desired setting(1-5). Jic A2 and the Zeal's are the same way. As for strut travel, it's not affected by ride height. But is very short compared to stock. On three wheels getting in driveway.
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Holy Cow ...are you kidding me!!!! 3 wheels into the driveway That's so sweet

Thanks for all the info Eric. I think I'll be ordering a set from gruppe-s. Although, I think I'm going to order a spare set of 6/4 springs just in case I'm too much of a wuse to take the beating.

If you ever decide to put the damping to full soft, you'll have to let me know how it rides.
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Forgot to mention, I got it aligned finally today. I had them raise it a little also. Only reason for raising was to make room for 225/45/17 Azenis. There was no way they would fit in the rear. So all 4 corners were raised 5/8th" in rear and maybe 3/4" up front. It would barely fit at my local carwash . And I could only exit my driveway facing the long way out of neighborhood. Now its cool. It looked really good slammed, but wasn't practical.
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neverendingmods,

Did you need rear camber adjustment bolts when you got your alignment? What is your rear camber set at? What is your front camber set at?

How's the ride been over the past few weeks? Still good? Have you set the damping to 1 yet?

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downeyer,

I didn't get any #'s when I went. I just told them what I wanted. I.E- I use car for frequent autox and want an aggressive street setup. The front allow add. - camber but had the camber set in their words" any more - camber would cause premature tire wear." The camber plates still read "0". allowing easy adjustment back and forth. AS for the rear, no camber bolts were needed. But if you know of a specific setting you want, maybe a good idea to bring a set. I've put about 3k mi. on tires w/ no sign of abnormal wear. I used an alignment shop w/ 40+ years in the business. Have done plenty of coilover setups for street/race or whatever.
Still haven't lowered the damping any more. The have "broken in" now and I might go back to the 3rd setting on front. Either that, or I'm use to it. Can't wait til spring to put Azenis back on and really try them out. Oh yeah, w/ all the snow and road salt there isn't any corroding on them.

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Eric, thanks for the info. I may pick up a set of camber bolts just in case, but it sounds like from you and a few others that rear camber bolts are not needed for the Zero2Rs.

Can't wait to hear about your review when you put the Azenis back on

Also, thanks for the info on the corrosion check.
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Well, I've had the Azenis on for about a week now. What a difference . Most of the bounce went away with the addition of stiffer sidewalls. Harsher now with all kinds of dash vibrations. I just turn up the radio alittle. Handling is incredible thanks to sticky tires. This suspension is unbelievable. I can't stay out of the backroads. Getting up early to go and play .
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neverendingmods,

I dropped the cash and put on the Zero-2Rs over the weekend. You are right, the ride is bouncy down the interstate. I'm running 225/50-16 AVSi Tires on the stock rims and had the damping set at 3. I backed all four struts down to 1 and it seems a little bit better, but I have yet to drive back down the interstate. Did the 225/45-17 tires help reduce this bounciness for you? Did the struts and springs eventually break in? Gruppe-S threw in the 6/4 springs and may consider swapping unless the bounciness goes away.

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Downeyer- Glad to hear you got them. I don't know if I got used to the ride or they just finally "broke in". It was after about 500 mi. they seemed softer. The thing is, these coilovers work you tires sidewall pretty hard. Try taking you tire pressure up to 40psi. all around. But the harsh rebound effect will drop drastically after a few hundred miles. With your setting on "1", make sure you don't feel the bump stop after some miles of break in. You shouldn't bottom out these though, I've hit some dips on the freeway that I swear bounced my front wheels off the ground and I didn't bottom them out. Remember to be careful on roads you're unfamiliar with, potholes are your enemy! Also, like once every other month, spray a little WD40 on the adj. valve. Keeps it moving freely for adj., and makes #'s easier to read. Use it to clean the shock body(threads). Works great and keeps them looking good. Try not to get it up in boot though.
Have you gotten an alignment yet? And how low did you go? I've had to raise the rear another .25" because of rubbing
You will grow to love these, give yourself a little time to get used to them. Enjoy!

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Shortly after I posted the last message, I increased the tire pressure and cranked the damping up to 5. Both of these helped out quite a bit in the oscillation. I noticed today that the oscillation is starting to go away and it's starting to ride a little rougher...this is a good thing Hopefully it's starting to break in.

I know what you mean about the rebound. It almost knocks the wind out of me. Really hits hard on the interstate. Hopefully it will be gone soon like you said.

I hit a few potholes in the past couple days and these things actually absorb them better than my stockers. I was very impressed. Don't know about know though as they are riding rougher.

Thanks for the tips on the WD-40. I had not even thought about that. I'll be sure to keep them looking beautiful

I was supposed to get an alignment today, but their laser system was down. I expect to get one tomorrow.

I couldn't believe how low the car was after installing these. The front dropped 2.5". The front tire was tucked!!! I raised both end by 15 turns (approximately 1"). I now have a slight gap at the front and rear. Looks very nice : ) We'll see what happens after I corner weight the car.

I actually autocrossed the day after the install. Can you say oversteer? I was able to balance it out with tires pressures. Wow...what a difference. I watched a video of myself (that someone took of me) and I had zero body roll at a damping level of 3. Right now, the limiting factor is my tires. I'm running Yoko AVSi...the same ones that I ran last fall. Took them off for snow tires and stored them over the winter. They are hard and not as sticky...I need some Azenis

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Autox starts for me on May 4th. Will be the 1st time w/Cusco's on. I have been curious as to how much more oversteer these give. Sounds like a good amount . Let me know how they hold up for you Downeyer.

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Just got those installed w/ 6/4 springs...they work great, especially at high speed corners.

One question though: does any one experience any "popping" or "clunking" sound when they're going really slow? I hear them coming from the rear (both sides) right before I come to a stop. It sound kinda like when you first shut off the engine and it makes that pop sound.

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