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Old 02-05-2001, 06:54 AM   #1
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Has anyone installed cams before? are they hard to install? And does anyone else make them? And for how much I know cobb has them and I might go with them.. Thanks
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Old 02-05-2001, 07:01 AM   #2
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I have the "street" (mild) cams. I did not install them myself, and my mechanic said it was a pain. I believe ColinL installed his himself, but it took him quite a while and you need some special tools.

I belive the book rate is something like 10 hours. Plus you need a follow-up adjustment in 1000 miles. Figure $500-700 total for labor.
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Old 02-05-2001, 08:54 AM   #3
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Paeco has them for 420 (for the set) and the install took me about 4 hours 99% of which is taking stuff off and putting stuff on, the cam itself is very easy.
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Old 02-05-2001, 09:10 AM   #4
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Pipercub, Where did you do it at. Meaning at your house a garge? And when did you feel the gain's? Plus is break in time about 500 miles? I need to know all this stuff becouse I might do it soon and I don't want to be stuck in a jam.. So as much info as possible it would help so much.. Thanks
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Old 02-05-2001, 11:19 AM   #5
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Old 02-05-2001, 01:21 PM   #6
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OOps, I did forget to mention setting valves again. Trey recommends setting the valves initally (on the install) then again at 3k miles on your next oil change. I don't really consider it part of the cam break in process, but i guess it is caused by the cam break in process

I did notice that my car is much more noisy at idle now. I've got valves clicking. I haven't had time to look into this yet, but I think ColinL also experienced clicking valves. I set my valves all fairly tightly, but I may have gotten sloppy in knowing I will be setting them again later. Still runs great though and they make me want a higher redline since it feels the engine is just starting to build steam once up there
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Old 02-05-2001, 04:19 PM   #7
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Even with my lash set right, I swear up & down that there is more valve ticking at idle than stock.
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Old 02-05-2001, 04:25 PM   #8
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I just read about stimpy's install very nice. But I need it to be perfect. I know things will never be perfect but I never did this before so I am kinds shady on it. But when my tax return comes in That is what I am goin to get I will slap a post on how it goes.... Thanks stimpy and everyone
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Old 02-05-2001, 04:42 PM   #9
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One my buddies (domestic motor head) was telling me that because of the increased lift of the valves, the valve springs as maxing out... hence the valve ticking. Sounds kinda cool actually, now my car isn't almost completely silent while idling.
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Old 02-05-2001, 09:08 PM   #10
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Do you guys know if the valve clicking is going to cause any problems in the long run?
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Old 02-06-2001, 12:17 AM   #11
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I just completed the Cobb Cams install this weekend. It took me and a friend about 16 hours total to do this install. Neither of us had previous cam install experience. I will detail my install later today in a new post. Overall, the cams are well worth my money.

For the Cobb cams, the break in is a 2000rpm fast idle for 15 minutes. That is it.

Oh, and you do spend most of your time removing and adding parts.

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Old 02-06-2001, 12:20 AM   #12
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Let us know the Cobb cams work. I really like the prospect of 200hp from a NA engine.
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Old 02-06-2001, 12:57 AM   #13
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Break in is one thing, adjustment is another. It may be broken-in enough to drive after 15 min, but you still need to adjust the valves after 500-1000 miles.
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Old 02-06-2001, 04:28 AM   #14
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I just don't like the amount of time you have to spend puttin the cams in. It just takes so long...
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Old 02-06-2001, 09:10 PM   #15
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Installed @ dealer, 5Hr job & only charge me 400CND...
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Old 02-07-2001, 12:38 AM   #16
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Pay somebody to do the cam install then. I did my own cams because I don't mind getting my hands dirty and I wanted to know how to do it. To each his own I suppose. I figured that a weekend of time spent installing cams was a lot less valuable than $500-700 spent on paying somebody to install. I also know they were done right. I don't trust ANYBODY to work on my car now.
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Old 02-07-2001, 09:22 AM   #17
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Stimpy Iam just like you. I love to get my hand's dirty and work on lot's of thing's I just never installed somthing like that. But I love to learn as much as I can about my car and I hate to let other people work on my stuff to but I just need to read up on it and make sure that's what I want to do..
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Old 02-07-2001, 10:35 AM   #18
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Buy the Haynes Legacy manual and look at the procedures for swapping a cam on the 2.2L sohc because it is nearly identical to the 2.5L sohc. You can find this manual at PepBoys and other autoparts stores for less than $20.
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Old 02-07-2001, 01:09 PM   #19
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I will look for that and is there any difference at all with that book meaning 2.2 vers 2.5? As in install?
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Old 02-07-2001, 01:21 PM   #20
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If you are very serious about the install, you might toss Trey an email and he may be able to fax the install instructions to you. Matter-of-fact, I might be able to dig up my instructions and send them to you. I got my install instructions from Trey months before I went to install my cams.
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Old 02-07-2001, 08:10 PM   #21
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Ok if you haev them send them to me and I will look them over and then I can make up my mind..
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Old 02-08-2001, 06:52 AM   #22
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Old 02-08-2001, 11:53 AM   #23
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Old 02-09-2001, 06:52 AM   #24
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Thanks man... I think I might buy them know and put them in later.. When I get in my college proformance class. But send it anyway.....
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www.susogi.net/stimpy

The install instructions are posted there in .jpg format. I captured them with my digital camera, but they turned out ok. One of them was taken with the flash on, and it looks much better, so I will eventually go back and recapture all of them with the flash.

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