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Old 02-14-2001, 01:17 AM   #1
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Wink Subaru Uses Purolator Oil Filters !

Subaru does use Purolator oil filters.
I saw a cut away display at a Subaru dealer here in Minnesota. The filter had both
Puro(lator) and SUB(ARU) printed on it, the words in brackets were cut away on the filter. I will post a picture of this next time I am at the Subaru Dealer, hopefully the display wasn't trashed. The Purolator Model numbers were L14460 . Doing some cross part checking on the net; ie. research. I found out WE, ie. Cool Subaru People, can use Purolator L14459 and the PURE ONE OIL FILTER PL14459 by the way the "PL" rocks. My double clutching is much smoother with the "PL" than the "L". ---Gill Willson 2K 2.5RS w/10,000 miles :-)
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Old 02-14-2001, 05:40 AM   #2
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What does clutching have to do with the oil filter?
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Old 02-14-2001, 05:48 AM   #3
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Maybe you missed the "". He's being funny.

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Old 02-14-2001, 08:11 AM   #4
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All Subaru OEM filters have Purolator on them. Question is - is the OEM any better? I've heard yes. Just by glancing at the outside, the OEM looks to have a slightly bigger rubber ring. It also feels a little heavier. I asked Purolator if there was a difference and they gave me the generic "all of our filters meet or exceed OEM specifications".
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Old 02-14-2001, 08:33 AM   #5
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Hey EchoWrx, I just did an oil change the other day and at Pep Boys the book listed Purolator 14460 as the part number. I'm not saying your part# is wrong, I think the book listed only up to MY'99, but I haven't had any oil leaks or anything.

EDIT: btw mine is MY00, that's why I mentioned that the book only listed up to MY99.

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Old 02-14-2001, 09:05 AM   #6
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The fact is that there is no such thing as an OEM oil filter. No car manufacturer except maybe the big three (Mopar, AC Delco, and whatever the Ford one is called) make their own filters. Even among those, you can see that a lot of filters are identical.

There was a website somewhere in which some guy cut open several oil filters and showed the differences, and how there are really only a few manufacturers.

The best ones I have found are Bosch filters. They seem to be identical to the more expensive Mobil 1 filters. I hear that FRAM is to be avoided at all costs.

Just found it: http://members.nbci.com/minimopar/oilfilterstudy.html
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Old 02-14-2001, 06:10 PM   #7
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I just don't know. Niether Purolator nor Mobil will confirm, in any way shape or form, whether or not the PureOne or Mobil synthetic filter (any part #) will fit our cars. In fact they have said repeatedly that they will not be held responsible for any damage caused by misapplication of their products.

FYI both the OEM and Purolator brand work the same. I changed them both out at 4000 miles, but the Purolators are cheaper.
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Old 02-14-2001, 06:59 PM   #8
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Purolators are the standard OE generic stuff that you can EZly get at Napa and Pep Boys, Just FYI to the ppl that aren't sure WTH is Purolator. I'm using one.
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Old 02-14-2001, 09:10 PM   #9
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so does ford motorcraft,just buy a motorcraft FA-810 there only $2.99(at your local parts store) and it is the same filter that i use to pay $5.99 for!
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Old 02-14-2001, 09:55 PM   #10
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The reason why I've always like Purolators is that they sometimes(for some car models)have a bigger physical dimension than other brands. I know the filtration material(quality/amount) is what counts on the inside but it gives me some sense of relief knowing that it is physically bigger and can possibly contain more filtration material.

Maybe this is all a false sense but it makes me feel better.
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Old 02-14-2001, 10:59 PM   #11
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A bigger filter also holds more oil, which is where the engine gets it's oil on startup. Probably doesn't make a difference, but having a little extra oil couldn't hurt, unless you overfill the crank
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Old 02-15-2001, 08:19 AM   #12
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Actually you should probably NOT use a filter that fits but is not specifically for your car. The reason is that each filter has a different bypass valve pressure, so if use a filter that is bigger, but it also has a higher bypass valve pressure, you could put a lot of stress on your oil pump.

On the other hand, if the bypass valve pressure is rated too low, your oil pump will overpower it and you'll just always bypass your filter.

In case you don't know, the bypass valve on your filter is there to protect your oil pump in case the filter becomes clogged by providing an alternate path around the filter material.
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Old 02-15-2001, 08:24 AM   #13
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I also remember the site that did a very detailed job of examining all the filters. The Purolators were at the top of the list . I use the 14460 Purolator brand, as I feel that it is the best of the filters that do not cost a fortune. Pulolator Premium + Mobil 1 5w30 makes me feel very safe.
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Old 02-15-2001, 08:44 AM   #14
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I was not aware of a bypass valve in the oil filter. I know there is an "anti-drainback" valve in the filter, whose purpose is to prevent the oil from flowing opposite the intended flow direction, so that oil pressure (well, some fraction thereof) is maintained in the oil system while the engine is off. Thus, the next time it is started, there is already oil up to the valvetrain, so you have minimal operating time without oil on the important stuff.

Hmmm, I've personally blown a few oil filters (gasket literally gone, and oil pouring out around seating area of block), and yes, three of them were FRAMs (I'll never buy another FRAM!), and surprisingly enough, one of them was a Mobil-1 filter. However, I have never managed to blow an OEM (Purolator) filter. Interesting, huh?
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Old 02-15-2001, 10:10 AM   #15
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yup, the bypass valve is that metal spring you see when you look into the large hole of the oil filter (on a lot of filters anyway).

The antidrainback valve is the rubber piece that you can see through the small holes in the filter (i think).
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Old 02-15-2001, 01:31 PM   #16
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I've heard this topic at many new car owner meetings at my dealership. Can we use any oil filter? The standard answer is yes but do becareful, if an aftermarket filter fails no OEM is going to stand behind it. But I can't help wondering to myself, if you just paid well over $20g's for a car, is it really in your best interest to kick about an extra $2 for an oil filter? I know, I know, $2 is still $2, but there really are differences between OEM and aftermarket. Do a little shopping and a little dealing, I know you can get an OEM filter four under $5.
You just might have to buy more than one at a time. You are planning to keep your car for more than 3000 miles, aren't you? Thanks for reading the ramblings of a diehard Subaru
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Old 02-16-2001, 01:53 AM   #17
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I am not going to argue with any one, BUT I know what I know and the PL14459 w/ 3720 miles on it so far works great with no hickups . To Revision, when "double clutching" (look it up on the net) it helps to have a smooth transition, and a smooth engine helps with the rev matching that is required to do this task. I never had this with a "FRAM-SCAM" ("DC" is diffrent from "heel toeing", but when used together, they are a very POTENT force to deal with.) To Jonathan_Yi if U own a Subaru EJ25 model engine (2.5 liter), that would be 1998-2001 Impreza, Legacy & Forester, Then U'd be ok using any of the following filters from Purolator:
(P)L14459 or L14460. I went to diffrent part shops and checked the catalogs in store and online and they agree. Infact check it yourself: get a filter model number like the "FRAM PH3593A" then go to this site and enter the number http://www.pureoil.com/catalog/xref.asp or even www.acdelco.com and do the same cross checking pattern. U will get the same numbers I got the l14459 and l14460.
Happy Trails --- Gil
P.S. next oil filters I am going to try are Acdelco, Mobil, & Amsoil - Only the best for my car.
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Old 02-16-2001, 05:51 AM   #18
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it helps to have a smooth transition, and a smooth engine helps with the rev matching that is required to do this task. I never had this with a "FRAM-SCAM"
I wouldn't know, I've been using Purolator filters, only, on my car for 40,000 miles.

Never had problems double clutching.

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Please check this link for info concerning filter cross referencing and interchangeability.

Why don't you give Purolator a call and see if they will confirm your part numbers for our application?
http://www.pureoil.com/
Phone: 615-221-7433
Fax: 615-221-7182

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Old 02-16-2001, 11:37 AM   #19
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Gotcha - I hear ya!
I pay $4.00 for OEM filters delivered to my door. Not in bulk either. I bought 6 and I don't know if there's a minimum.
The page hasn't been updated lately, but I think the special is still on. http://www.qsubaru.homepage.com/page5.html
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Old 02-16-2001, 06:21 PM   #20
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HEY! I just bought a can o' fram too.... should i worry, i always heel-toe at high revs... my can o' fram is the double guard ones u get for around 10 bucks at the auto parts store.
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Old 02-16-2001, 10:28 PM   #21
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My big gripe about Fram is that they started charging $2 more for the same filter but with that Grip coating on it. What gives?

Are they going to charge even more with a glow in the dark case?
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Old 02-17-2001, 12:04 AM   #22
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Very interesting... I've been using the orange Fram filters for about 8 years without a problem. That's 8 years on about 6 different cars (parent's and mine).
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Old 04-17-2001, 11:55 AM   #23
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Hey Guys!

I just talked with the tech at Purolator and he stated that to SPECIFICALLY stick with the L14460 and PL14460 oil filters for our 2.5RS.

He mentioned that the PL14459 uses a different baseplate that can cause many problems; twist it too much and the cap will come off, as well as may encounter leaks.

So he told me to stick with the 14460 number.

Just an FYI for any interested.

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Old 04-17-2001, 01:17 PM   #24
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You know whats weird......Purolator makes filters in the US, but up here in Canada (eh?), they are a courier , like FEDEX, but they both use the same logo and everything....whats up wit that?



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Old 04-17-2001, 05:04 PM   #25
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Oh hell, not this topic again!!!!! I use Fram, and have used Fram for many years now with no problems. If Fram is good enough for Porsche to put on as original equipment at the factory on their cars, then it is good enough for my RS.
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