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Old 02-26-2001, 10:51 AM   #1
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I know that this has been addressed a million times. However I hardly ever check the boards so I am slightly out of touch. I have heard about the Borla and a new STI exhaust. Whats the deal with these. Does anyone have them? I am trying to locate a M3 / Ducati sound exhaust. Not a cheap Japanese aftermarket sound. I know about all of the popular stuff, i.e. Stomong, Rally Spec, Scooby Sports... I am looking for somthing out of the ordinary. Thanks in advance.
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Old 02-26-2001, 10:57 AM   #2
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well if you want M3 sound you could always buy my M3. $27k obo in NJ
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Old 02-26-2001, 11:51 AM   #3
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Scoobysport is unquestionably the best sounding exhaust you can get on an Impreza.

Why you bought a Subaru and want it to sound like a v-twin or a straight six is beyond me. If you want an unusual exhaust sound, just punch holes in your muffler and remove a plug wire or two.
As if a flat-4 with a free-flowing exhaust sounds common. Sheesh!
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Old 02-26-2001, 12:08 PM   #4
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Why would I want a street car that sounds like a rally car. Not all of us need to attract attention with out right foot. I simply asked for information on two exhausts, not for smart ass remarks from unknowledgeable people. I need an exhaust that I can take a client to lunch in and have a conversation on the way there. The SS is way too loud. It says, "look at me I am trying as hard as I can to be a Subaru rally car." Half the people on this board have the mentality of a Honda owner. Now does anyone know about the new STI or Borla exhaust?

As for the M3, been there done that, white E36.
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Old 02-26-2001, 12:12 PM   #5
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I have a Borla universal setup on my RS & it's very loud, about on par with a Stromung if not louder. The only options you have for quiet exhausts are the Brospeed (sounds almost just like stock) and the STi (going by hearsay).
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Old 02-26-2001, 12:19 PM   #6
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IMHO the Stromung is the best. It sounds very similar to an older Alfa V6.....you know..the stereotypical "sports car" sound....the N1 is to "whooshy" (lack of tone), the Supertrap system sounds poor IMO,The Scooby sport sounds like a louder Stromung( for more money), I do like the sound of the Blitz NUR Spec system (awesome), and from the clips I have heard of the Borla, its pretty decent too. Come to the USA meet, I think just about every exhaust out there available in the US will be there,same for intakes.
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Old 02-26-2001, 12:23 PM   #7
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Well, I'll tell you what: Before I get the turbo installed, I'll put on the STI muffler with no other mods. I'll record a before (stock) and after (STI) using mini line-in microphones taped to the bumper. Same location, same gain. It'll be interesting to compare.
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Old 02-26-2001, 12:27 PM   #8
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Thay would be nice. Is this the one available from SPD or the new one?
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Old 02-26-2001, 12:44 PM   #9
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From SPD. $300 seemed a lot more reasonable than, what, $800?
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Old 02-26-2001, 08:20 PM   #10
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Have the STI and Borla headers. Had a stromung on, but found it to be too much of an attention getter. Hopefully when Jon gets his hooked up, he will confirm that the setup is the best! I wouldn't change mine for anything out there.

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Old 02-26-2001, 08:23 PM   #11
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GREBORB: Someone on another thread recommended an STI catback system with Borla headers for someone with "mature" ears that doesn't want a blaring exhaust. Was that you? How's sound IN the car with windows up? Conversation? Notice any hp gains? Gas mileage differences?
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Old 02-26-2001, 08:23 PM   #12
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weird stuff goin on here... sorry for mistake

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Old 02-26-2001, 08:24 PM   #13
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sorry.. malfunction

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Old 02-26-2001, 08:29 PM   #14
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"The header, oddly enough, quieted it down a bit...and changed the note a lot."

That's definitely something to consider for those of us looking for somewhat quiet exhaust with performance in mind. Headers allow the exhaust to flow more freely, so there is less resistance and therefor less noise as the restriction is eased. The same thing happend with my V8 other car.
Keep the posts coming, I'm still not sure what to go with. I want headers and exhaust eventually, but nothing too loud. I think if we knew how many dB's our exhausts are, we could differentiate one person's opinion of loud to another's.

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Old 02-26-2001, 09:46 PM   #15
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What I've gathered from reading the board thus far is that getting the right mid-pipe goes a long way to quieting the car down on the inside. As far as having the mentality of Honduh owners, if that's what you believe, than perhaps you don't belong here. One of the biggest draws of Subies is the uniqueness of the flat 4 engine and how it sounds, etc. Why is it so wrong to want to enjoy hearing the sound of our engines? More than anything hearing that sound gives me an ear to ear grin, screw what other people think!! I can't wait to get a Stromung this summer!!
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Old 02-26-2001, 10:18 PM   #16
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Well...the header did "quiet it down" some...but don't think it isn't still pretty damn loud! I still set off the occasional alarm in the parking garage.

But that is a good point about tuned headers changing the note. A friend of mine is a Miata driver...therefore not the type of person to put something loud on, even for performance...he likes his car on the quieter side of the meter.

Anyway, he experienced the car both without the headers, and then with. We both certainly noticed a change in the exhaust note. The most striking difference was how much less intrusive the sound was when freeway cruising. Again...this does NOT mean that it is quiet! Simply...quieter.

I am actually VERY curious to hear a Suby with Borla headers and an STi exhaust (the quieter performance muffler).

Oh yes, since I have the mid-pipe I do NOT have any sort of resonator or silencer in the system what so ever.

Personally...the exhaust...is a BIT too loud. Great for having fun with, but nearly impossible to be stealthy with. That is my ownly regret. I cannot suprise any of my friends by dropping by their homes!

Swapping exhaust stuff is pretty easy to do...I'll see what kind of testing I can do...and perhaps we can find that ellusive middle of the road sound.

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Old 02-26-2001, 11:03 PM   #17
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subymamma et al:

The sound in the cabin is quiet...just a nice v-8 and/or v-twin rumble (reminds me a lil' of my Ducati). I find myself opening the roof so I can hear it and it sounds sweet. I switched from stromung and didn't note any power loss (butt-dyno mind you!). Gas mileage is good although my car has been problematic (ce light) and diagnostics are now squared away (awaiting installation of new cats under warranty).
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Old 02-27-2001, 01:08 AM   #18
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I happen to have a full Borla system...and if you are looking for quiet, Borla is NOT the way to go. Even when I just had the Borla mid-pipe and can on...it was way loud. The header, oddly enough, quieted it down a bit...and changed the note a lot.

What can I say? I like the sound. I don't race the car on the street, I don't stare people down who drive other cars, I don't do any of that "race boy" stuff. I am a 26 year old accountant who loves the way his motor sounds. Therefore I bought a loud exhaust.

So if you are looking for quiet, don't get a Borla.

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Old 02-27-2001, 01:08 AM   #19
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Scoobysport? Loud?

You must be joking. I've had that thing on forever, and not one person has ever referred to it as loud. Have you ever heard one?

"Look at me I am trying as hard as I can to be a Subaru rally car.." As if all the body tack-ons that make an RS an RS don't scream that sentiment enough.

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Old 02-27-2001, 04:20 AM   #20
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Chris,
No matter which exhaust setup you end up using, if you don't like the noise level you can always have a resonator installed by a local muffler shop. The noise reduction level depends on the size that you use (bigger=quieter). This won't affect your power at all and is a nice way to tweak your noise level. Whatever it's worth.
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Old 02-27-2001, 07:30 AM   #21
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Greborb, which STI are you using. The old one from Mike or the new STi GeNOME muffler? It sounds like you have the sound that I am looking for.
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Old 02-27-2001, 08:36 AM   #22
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Hey Jackass, you solicited opinions. And that's what you got. So get a hold of your hair-trigger and deal with it. Don't compound your showing your ass to everyone on this board by insulting half of them (whichever half that might be...) As far as unknowledgeable people go, knowledgeable people who know anything about engines know that a 90 degree v-twin and a straight six sound nothing alike. So in the future, maybe you should make your initial inquiry sound like it was posed by someone who knew what the hell he was asking about, before stating (And I paraphrase..) "I'm too lazy to do a search, but I'd like to waste your bandwidth anyway. I have a hard time distinguishing between an Italian v-twin motorcycle and a German inline-six, so I'd like the opinons of those who know more than I do. Although a Ducati is so loud you have to wear earplugs to ride it more than 100 miles, I am going to go off half-cocked and insult you and half the members on this board if you suggest I get something I think is too loud."
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Old 02-27-2001, 08:47 AM   #23
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Um, I think he was referring to the subtle, muffled yet aggressive performance sound of those cars, not implying that a flat four should sound like a straight six.

Like many Japanese cars, most of the aftermarket exhausts for Imprezas are aimed at those who want to be noticed, either by sound or by appearance. Those of us who LIKE the subtlety of a restrained performance exhaust note don't have too many options. Being told to get a Stromung or Scoobysport over and over again isn't too helpful.
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Old 02-27-2001, 08:55 AM   #24
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STi is by far the best quite muffler out there. It performs well and looks nice too.
I've had one for quite a while and really hope to add borla headers, but haven't rounded up the $$$ as I'm trying to get money together to get the FHI version 5 suspension as I can benifit more from that first I think.

2.25" SS non-resonated Strogumn midpipe and STi version 4,5,6 back box is what I've got.
Purchased from SPD at $409 shipped.

Love the sound and doesn't get a lot of attention, nice low sound. It's the rally blue and RS spoiler that gets me attention, not the exhaust. I recommend this set-up very highly! No droning on the interstate or highway like my friend with the Strogumn.

Midpipe is improtant, but the back box will do more off the bat.

Thanks - Jon
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Check out my site www.geocities.com/subarusurfer/
yeah I know some of them are broken, but it is nopt my fault, I'll try to get some of them working.
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