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Old 02-28-2001, 11:43 AM   #1
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Exclamation Few oil change questions?

Ok I keep hearing two things when I see threads about people changing their oil. This will be my first time changing the oil on my car. One is a drain plug washer. This needs to be replaced every oil change correct? Where do I get one? my dealer? The second thing is the oil filter to use. I keep hearing there are two different model (fram I think) oil filters. Have we come to a conclusion on which one to get. There was a recent thread saying that, what was original thought was better was not correct. So which one is it? Thanks guys

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Old 02-28-2001, 11:46 AM   #2
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I get the washers from a Subaru dealer. Usually, I buy a year supply (12) because I drive 3000-4000 miles per month.

As for the filter, Purolator is very common because Subaru oil filter is made by Purolator. Some people use Mobil 1, and I use Bosch. I heard bad rumors about FRAM, but I've been using that on my g/f's cars, and no trouble whatsoever.
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Old 02-28-2001, 11:48 AM   #3
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Maybe it is Purolator the debat was on. Sorry but you guys know what I mean

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Old 02-28-2001, 03:39 PM   #4
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Hey Turk, just so you know. The Amsoil filter you'd want to use is the SDF-20. I don't want to get into which brand is best. All the info Amsoil gives says theirs is the best (of course). That's perfectly normal marketing. Like others have said, from research and reports I've seen, the standard Fram filters are apparently just about the bottom of the heap.

I know this chart doesn't officially mean anything, since there's no hard numbers given, but I don't think it can be too far off.
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Old 02-28-2001, 04:13 PM   #5
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Oh, and Turk, when you slide under the car, make sure to give a little smile at the positioning of the filter. Subaru rocks.

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Old 02-28-2001, 06:01 PM   #6
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I'll put my usual plug in for getting one of these (pardon the pun)

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I have one on each car. Makes changing the oil a snap, plus you never have to change the washer I overfilled the car the other day, got under there and drained a little no muss no fuss. That was real handy.

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Old 03-01-2001, 12:19 AM   #7
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i have a bosch oil filter, and am having oil leaking problems. I do'nt remember the model #. I changed my oil. Screwed on the oil filter as tight as I can with my hand, then turned on the engine to warm it up. BLAAAH. It started spitting oil EVERYWHERE! What a mess. Yes, I did remember to put oil along the rim. So, I tightened up the oil filter.. about two revolutions with my wrench. And now, there's a fresh oil film around the filter, which means its leaking or something. =( And my car reeks of burning oil. So.... in 1K miles i'll go back to Purolater. ANy suggestions guys? Did I do something wrong?

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Old 03-01-2001, 12:24 AM   #8
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You probably tightened your oil filter TOO much! Just barely hand-tighten the filter (after you rubbed oil around the gasket). It will expand when the car's running (heat & pressure). Yours was probably so tight, the gasket couldn't take the expansion. Either that or you purchased the WRONG filter!!

Only filters to buy:
Purolator (OEM or off the shelf)
Mobil-1 (fewer threads, but just as good)

Filters to avoid:
FRAM (Researched by the Devil himself)
Anything made by Champion labs. *ick*


*Oh I forgot - your leaking problem could be due to overfill! If I were you, I would be putting 4 Quarts of oil in instead of trying to squeeze that .2Q from a fifth bottle. Underfill is WAY better than overfill.

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Old 03-01-2001, 12:25 AM   #9
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Sometimes when you take the old filter out of the car, the gasket gets stuck to the engine. When unnoticed and put the new filter on, you'll get a mega oil leak from the filter area. Maybe that's the problem? I've been using the Bosch filter for more than 2 years on 2 different vehicles, and no problems whatsoever.

Or, you were unlucky and got a defective oil filter. Or, you got a wrong filter.
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Old 03-01-2001, 12:39 AM   #10
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Actually now that I go back to the threads it was the Amsoil oil filter. So which is best Purolator ( is there only one kind?) or Amsoil ( which ever the better one is)?

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Old 03-01-2001, 12:50 AM   #11
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Purolator make two lines that I know of.

One is the Purolator Pure Premium or something like that. Model is L14460 and is supposedly the same as the Subaru OEM filter. This is what I use, it is very very good.

The other is the Purolator Pure 1 and is supposed to be one of the best out there. It is about twice the price of the other one and to the best of my knowledge is not made for our car.

Fram sucks. The filter can disintagrate on the inside and you never know it. It also will let dirty oil flow back into the engine if the oil psi gets too high. Not good.

I am not familiar with the Amsoil filter. They have a good reputaion, but I just don't know. I am going to change the filter with every oil change no matter what, so I am not interrested in a filter that "lasts longer". I would be interrested in one that filters better, however.

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