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Old 01-25-2003, 01:04 PM   #1
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hey guys

can i go about changing my oil while using the same crush washer? I know that i should change it, but i don't have one now, its saturday, the oil should be changed, i have the oil.

is this REALLY going to matter for one oil change?

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Old 01-25-2003, 01:28 PM   #2
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I've heard no.

you can try it, I have a lifetime supply (or pretty damned close so I don't have to worry about it)

speed safely

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Old 01-25-2003, 02:59 PM   #3
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Last time I changed mine I reused the old one, and I haven't had any leakage problems. I wouldn't re-use it more than twice though. The worst thing that would happen is a very slow leak I think.
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Old 01-25-2003, 04:18 PM   #4
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I reused mine with my first oil change and had a slow drip leak from the bolt. But all it took was a quick tightening and it was fine. If you don't have a new one I wouldn't worry to much just make sure you get the bolt tight. Probably not a good idea to use it to many times. By the way how much do they charge for those things at the dealer, and are they only available there or can you get them at parts stores?
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Old 01-25-2003, 04:33 PM   #5
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I've got just two words: Fumoto Valve.
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Old 01-25-2003, 04:35 PM   #6
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I got away with it the first oil change, but not the second. I just went to the dealer and bought a bunch. The problem is trying to put the new washer in place after you already have 5 quarts of Mobil 1 in the car.
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:13 PM   #7
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That is very interesting cause I have used the original one about 15 time now and have never had a leak or sign of one.
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:19 PM   #8
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I'v used the same one for the last 10 changes,(original one actually) with no leaks at all. Just make sure you put it on the same way it came off. Meaning flat side against the oil pan. These things are a sales gimmick ,I'm sure. As soon as I get around to it I'm gonna replace it with a copper washer and be done with it.
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:19 PM   #9
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Yeah I used the same one for about 5 changes. But now have the fumoto valve.
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Old 01-25-2003, 07:21 PM   #10
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cool guys, thanks for the help
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Old 01-25-2003, 10:46 PM   #11
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I think people have a misunderstanding regarding the puropse of a crush washer. It helps to ensure you don't over tighten the drain plug and damage the pan/threads. The "crushing action' of the washer helps accomplish this (hence the name). Also, it helps ensure the plug doesn't slacken during the period until your next oil change. Since the washer is crushed as you tighten it, you will need to replace it once removed.........otherwise it doesn't do it's job.

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Old 01-26-2003, 01:57 AM   #12
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Gents,

You do not need a new washer at every oil change but you will need to anneal it by heating it with a torch and quenching it quickly in cold water. That will make it nice and soft to provide a good seal. We do it on aircraft sparkplug washers as a standard practice.

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Old 01-26-2003, 10:01 AM   #13
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That is very interesting cause I have used the original one about 15 time now and have never had a leak or sign of one.
Same here. I'm not running to the dealer for a new one before every change.
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Old 01-26-2003, 01:42 PM   #14
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The crush washer on my car was leaking from day one, so I've been using solid copper ones instead and no more leaks. I do have the oil temp sender/drain plug instead of the standard one but I don't think that should matter, the seating surface is the same.
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Old 01-27-2003, 03:34 PM   #15
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NAPA gold oil filter- FIL1334 or just ask for 1334

NAPA drain plug gasket- 704-1963


If you have NAPA, this is another option

I bought 10 a year ago, no problems. I also use a small amount of PTFE tape.

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Old 01-31-2003, 04:19 AM   #16
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I think the crush washer is more of REALLY cheap insurance. 25cents per oil change X 40 oil changes in the Subaru's life = $10 whole dollars you say buy not changing the crush washer.

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Old 01-31-2003, 10:57 PM   #17
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Quote:
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That is very interesting cause I have used the original one about 15 time now and have never had a leak or sign of one.
Same here on my '95 Legacy. Don't worry about it.
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Old 02-01-2003, 10:43 PM   #18
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I've got just two words: Fumoto Valve.
amen to that!
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Old 02-11-2003, 01:06 PM   #19
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How well does a Fumoto Valve hold up to salt and dirt?
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Old 02-12-2003, 12:04 PM   #20
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Ive had to reuse it, didnt have any leak problems, but you probably dont want to use them more that twice like they said.

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Old 02-12-2003, 06:20 PM   #21
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How well does a Fumoto Valve hold up to salt and dirt?
I went to Tahoe and came back, and the valve action was smooth and unobstructed.

As far as the body of the valve itself is concerned... the thing is built rock solid.
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I think the crush washer is more of REALLY cheap insurance. 25cents per oil change X 40 oil changes in the Subaru's life = $10 whole dollars you say buy not changing the crush washer.

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Insurance against what?
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Old 02-12-2003, 09:32 PM   #23
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Against non-sealing drain pan bolt. Oil leaks, anyone?
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