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Old 01-28-2003, 04:58 AM   #1
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Angry just got my exhaust but

i just got my exhaust from buschur racing looks nice bit 3 big problem 1) no o2bug 2) bent wrong 3) it is 3 feet to long. i was so happy i ripped it out the box ran with it to my car sit it down and looked at it and was like ***! so im sending it back today.
im so pissed i just thought i would get it off me chest
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Old 01-28-2003, 10:59 AM   #2
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When you contact them, please update the post here.

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Old 01-28-2003, 12:07 PM   #3
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i just got my exhaust from buschur racing looks nice bit 3 big problem 1) no o2bug 2) bent wrong 3) it is 3 feet to long. i was so happy i ripped it out the box ran with it to my car sit it down and looked at it and was like ***! so im sending it back today.
im so pissed i just thought i would get it off me chest
can you be more specific what you mean by "3 feet too long" and by "bent wrong" ?
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Old 01-28-2003, 04:47 PM   #4
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can you be more specific what you mean by "3 feet too long" and by "bent wrong" ?
well when i got under the car and tried to put the new cat-back section on none of the hangers fit but the muffler and the end of the piping the huck to the dowpipe was past the right front tier on the out side of the car

i called them and got no answer so i just got down writing them so soon as i here back i will post it
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Old 01-28-2003, 06:05 PM   #5
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Did you get a turbo back or cat back? If it's just a cat back, then there is no bung needed. What do you mean it's bent wrong? It does look different than the stock exhaust, but it does fit well under the car. Mine was too long also, but only 7 inches too long; I just cut at the down pipe/cat back slip section. I admit that's kinda weird, but I think it's so you can dial in the right length for your car...maybe? I guess the whole system may seem kinda cheap, with the slip fit, and the weak hangers plus the fact that it's un-polished. But it does what it promises; eliminating the cats with three inch piping and a loud ass muffler; for alot less than any other matched turbo backs.

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Old 01-28-2003, 10:08 PM   #6
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I just ordered this was it a bad idea?
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Old 01-29-2003, 05:05 AM   #7
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Did you get a turbo back or cat back? If it's just a cat back, then there is no bung needed. What do you mean it's bent wrong? It does look different than the stock exhaust, but it does fit well under the car. Mine was too long also, but only 7 inches too long; I just cut at the down pipe/cat back slip section. I admit that's kinda weird, but I think it's so you can dial in the right length for your car...maybe? I think the whole system is kinda cheap, with the slip fit, and the weak hangers plus the fact that it's un-polished. But it does what it promises; eliminating the cats with three inch piping and a loud ass muffler; for alot less than any other matched turbo backs.
well when i got under the car and tried to put the new cat-back section on none of the hangers fit but the muffler and the end of the piping the huck to the dowpipe was past the right front tier on the out side of the car

i called them and got no answer so i just got down writing them so soon as i here back i will post it
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I have no idea what you just said....

Was it a cat back or a downpipe-back?

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Old 01-29-2003, 04:07 PM   #9
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Sounds like you got the cat-back designed to be used with the rest of their turboback. I do believe they make a cat-back that bolts up to the stock exhaust system. I could be wrong, your description is pretty vague. Best of luck.

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Old 01-31-2003, 04:35 PM   #10
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Hi guys,

David Buschur here. I was told to check this out.

We haven't received a call yet on the exhaust. We did do an extensive search though to find out who lives in Grand Junction that we sold one to. So, Ryan, I am here to help

I called and left a message at your house a few minutes ago but i want to make sure I address this here also so you can all see I am concerned.

O.K. From what what we found you ordered online and got a 3" downpipe and catback. It sounds like you are trying to install the catback to your stock downpipe though? Probably not, but that is what I am getting out of it.

Anyway, there is a slim chance I made a mistake. If the downpipe and catback you received both are designed for a slip fit, and they should be then the only other thing that could be wrong is the cat back is long. It is not long by 3 feet. It is going to be long by exactly 9.5". So you can cut it off there or send it back and we can do it. I will re-imburse you for shipping or I can send a call tag and get it back here. I can even cross ship you a new one. As for the lack of the 02 bung. If you ordered a downpipe without the high flow cat then we do not weld the bung in. The reason for this is simple. If the bung is in and the cat is not then you are going to get a check engine light. As long as you are going to get a light you may as well leave the 02 sensor out of it. We also offer an 02 simulator to take the place of the 02 sensor. This keeps the light from coming on. In this case you would have to find a way to plug the hole where the 02 bung is, no sense in that either. That is why you have no 02 bung. Had you ordered the downpipe with the highflow cat we would have installed the bung in the pipe.

As for the other comment about fitment and cheap hangers. The Hangers are 304 stainless steel, 3/16" of an inch thick. I don't think you guys will find another maker that uses actuall stainless for their hangers. They cost to much. These hangers are not going to bend or break. I put my name on these, the fit, quality and performance or bar none.

Please contact me with any further questions.
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Old 02-03-2003, 06:36 PM   #11
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i just sent the exhaust out and will have the tracking number for you on the 4th
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Old 02-03-2003, 07:45 PM   #12
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A++++++++ for customer Service. That what I like to see.

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Hi guys,

David Buschur here. I was told to check this out.

We haven't received a call yet on the exhaust. We did do an extensive search though to find out who lives in Grand Junction that we sold one to. So, Ryan, I am here to help

I called and left a message at your house a few minutes ago but i want to make sure I address this here also so you can all see I am concerned.

O.K. From what what we found you ordered online and got a 3" downpipe and catback. It sounds like you are trying to install the catback to your stock downpipe though? Probably not, but that is what I am getting out of it.

Anyway, there is a slim chance I made a mistake. If the downpipe and catback you received both are designed for a slip fit, and they should be then the only other thing that could be wrong is the cat back is long. It is not long by 3 feet. It is going to be long by exactly 9.5". So you can cut it off there or send it back and we can do it. I will re-imburse you for shipping or I can send a call tag and get it back here. I can even cross ship you a new one. As for the lack of the 02 bung. If you ordered a downpipe without the high flow cat then we do not weld the bung in. The reason for this is simple. If the bung is in and the cat is not then you are going to get a check engine light. As long as you are going to get a light you may as well leave the 02 sensor out of it. We also offer an 02 simulator to take the place of the 02 sensor. This keeps the light from coming on. In this case you would have to find a way to plug the hole where the 02 bung is, no sense in that either. That is why you have no 02 bung. Had you ordered the downpipe with the highflow cat we would have installed the bung in the pipe.

As for the other comment about fitment and cheap hangers. The Hangers are 304 stainless steel, 3/16" of an inch thick. I don't think you guys will find another maker that uses actuall stainless for their hangers. They cost to much. These hangers are not going to bend or break. I put my name on these, the fit, quality and performance or bar none.

Please contact me with any further questions.
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Old 02-03-2003, 09:57 PM   #13
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Yes, quality response, Buschur! A+ to you, and thanks for the great products. Love my exhaust.
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Old 02-03-2003, 11:09 PM   #14
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uh, what are you trying to imply here with your exhausts j/k
just trying to keep the topic light.
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Old 02-04-2003, 09:09 AM   #15
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for Dave and his customer service and Black..
would like to read the outcome of this..
shopping around for my exhaust..
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whats this "slip fit" stuff all about?
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Old 02-04-2003, 11:00 AM   #17
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You cant see the end of the catback but take a look at the end of the downpipe. It doesnt have a flange like stock, I'd guess thats what they mean by slip fit.
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Old 02-04-2003, 11:26 AM   #18
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Yes the cat back slips into the downpipe. He aslo offers versions that have a flange so you can bolt the cat back to different down pipes.

I have had the slip fit turbo back on for about 4 month and have not had any leaks or signs of exhaust leak. I pulled the cat back off and looked at the pipe to see if I could see any signs and did not see any.
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Old 02-04-2003, 11:32 AM   #19
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the idea is so that the pipes can move and flex around within each other and yet still remain sealed. but, the important thing is that you should make sure that the downpipe/midpipe slips INTO the muffler section for smoother exhaust flow. altough, a few millimieter restriction, wouldn't kill the performance. Do they advise using a clamp for it?
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Old 02-04-2003, 11:46 AM   #20
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They do not suggest a clamp for the exhaust but you can use one if you like. it is not going to hurt anything.

I do not have one on my exhaust and have had no problems
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I didn't think it would help, but I can see it distorting the fit for future removal and install.
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I was gonna use a Dynomax band clamp, that would'nt crush it; but after driving with mine for awile, it doest need it. Seals fine.
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