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Old 06-22-2006, 07:19 PM   #276
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Default I am installing viper 5000 into a my00 2.5rs sunday need help!!!

Originally Posted by tegnwrx
well the basic wires in an alarm/rs:

12V Constant: Black/white -- ignition harness
Starter wire: Black/yellow -- ignition harness
Ignition wire: Black -- ignition harness
Accessory wire: Black/blue -- ignition harness
Door lock wire: red/white -- keyless module* (negative trigger)
Door unlock wire: yellow/red -- keyless module* (negative trigger)
Parking lights: Purple -- B280 pin 15
Door Trigger: yellow -- keyless module* (negative trigger)
Dome supervision: same as door trigger
Brake wire: white/black -- brake switch
Trunk trigger: yellow/red -- OEM alarm harness**
Neutral indicator: green/black -- ECU, pin A8***
Tachometer wire: used ignition coil 1, yellow, B136 pin 24
Clutch bypass wire: green/yellow, harness above clutch
horn output: B176 pin12, red/greed

are these the right wires for the my00rs? , also i do not have a keyless entry module as my car didnt come with keyless, i realy need to know what wires i need to wire up the doors to the viper 5000 etc

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Old 09-04-2006, 11:07 AM   #277
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I have a DEI Viper 791xv

Ok, i followed this guide and the remote start comes on and the starter turns over, the car starts...but then it immedately dies. I'm using the coil#1 yellow wire from the ECU for the tach reading. Any ideas?
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:04 PM   #278
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I have a DEI Viper 791xv

Ok, i followed this guide and the remote start comes on and the starter turns over, the car starts...but then it immedately dies. I'm using the coil#1 yellow wire from the ECU for the tach reading. Any ideas?
It would be nice if your profile listed what year/make/model car you have.

Could possibly be a transponder issue.
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:05 PM   #279
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Old 09-04-2006, 02:04 PM   #280
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I have a DEI Viper 791xv

Ok, i followed this guide and the remote start comes on and the starter turns over, the car starts...but then it immedately dies. I'm using the coil#1 yellow wire from the ECU for the tach reading. Any ideas?
I know this might sound simple, and I don't mean to offend but, Did you program tachometer?
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Old 09-04-2006, 05:27 PM   #281
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I know this might sound simple, and I don't mean to offend but, Did you program tachometer?
That is what i am dealing with at the moment...it's not programming. What tach wire should i use for this unit?

What's interesting is my valet/program switch was bad. So i tried to program it again with a new switch and the LED still does not come on. So now i'm thinking the tach signal that i'm using is not a good one.

Also, do i need to switch the jumper on the unit for tach threashold?
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Old 09-04-2006, 07:01 PM   #282
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That is what i am dealing with at the moment...it's not programming. What tach wire should i use for this unit?

What's interesting is my valet/program switch was bad. So i tried to program it again with a new switch and the LED still does not come on. So now i'm thinking the tach signal that i'm using is not a good one.

Also, do i need to switch the jumper on the unit for tach threashold?
I have had good success with getting tach signal under the corrugated section of the turbo inlet hose on one of the passenger side engine cylinders. My compustar wouldn't program for tach in my 2006 Wagon at the ECU but it worked good at the above mentioned wire. Also, in my 2004 Sedan, the compustar worked fine from the ecu wire. I used a different wire though from the ecu, it was the tach output. It wasn't one wire from an individual coil. Changing the tach threshold might help since you are grabbing signal from just one coil and not from behind the cluster.
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:45 PM   #283
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Verify the valet/programming button is working correctly. Open door, turn ignition on and then off, within 10 seconds hit the valet button. The LED should turn on indicate the alarm is in valet mode. Then repeat to take it out of valet mode...I don't think you can program tach in valet mode.

I've always used the green wire at the ECU for tach. I've used it with Compustar and DEI remote starters. Its always worked good for me. It reads about 6 volts AC when the car is running.

Also, I have always left the tach threshhold jumper in the factory setting.
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Old 09-04-2006, 11:09 PM   #284
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i figured it out...thanks for all the help though

The problem was a stupid error on my part.
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Old 09-06-2006, 09:27 PM   #285
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Hey there RS guru's, i have a viper 791 and i can't seem to get the clutch bypass to work. The relay turns on, but it dosen't seem like it comes on before the car try's to start.

My question is what exact wire should i be using for the relay's ground? I'm currently using the violet (-) starter trigger. Also of course i'm using a constant 12v and the two wires from the clutch. I double checked that everything is hooked up correctly and has continuity.
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Old 09-06-2006, 11:51 PM   #286
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Just to clarify:
Pin 30- One of the wires from the clutch switch
Pin 87- The other wire from the clutch switch
Pin 85- Ignition
Pin 86- Second starter output (-) Violet.

Make sure that you are using the clutch switch for starting and not the one for the Cruise control shut off.

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Hey there RS guru's, i have a viper 791 and i can't seem to get the clutch bypass to work. The relay turns on, but it dosen't seem like it comes on before the car try's to start.

My question is what exact wire should i be using for the relay's ground? I'm currently using the violet (-) starter trigger. Also of course i'm using a constant 12v and the two wires from the clutch. I double checked that everything is hooked up correctly and has continuity.
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Old 09-07-2006, 01:29 PM   #287
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That must be it! I must be on the wrong switch. Thank you.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:06 AM   #288
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I have an early early 02 Wagon, and I know that the yellow wire is not the Door Trigger.

I spent a good 4 hours today dicking around with it. I ended up finding the door trigger on a blue w/ grey wire on the grey intergrated module plug. The yellow wires were doing nothing for me.
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Old 09-18-2006, 12:37 AM   #289
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anyone got any thoughts of the 3000,771,or 791 wich would be a better alarm for my needs wich are security, range, and 2 way thats it dont care about remote start
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:22 PM   #290
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2006 WRX TR, 5spd MT....

What is the best way to check to see if the car is in neutral. I hear talk of a neutral wire but that it has to low of a voltage to even trigger a relay. Also hear talk of a PAC module that can convert the really low voltage to useable levels. Which is going to be my best way of going?

Also, anyone have the wiring descriptions/colors/locations handy for the 2006?

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2006 WRX TR, 5spd MT....

What is the best way to check to see if the car is in neutral. I hear talk of a neutral wire but that it has to low of a voltage to even trigger a relay. Also hear talk of a PAC module that can convert the really low voltage to useable levels. Which is going to be my best way of going?

Also, anyone have the wiring descriptions/colors/locations handy for the 2006?

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No need for a PAC module, or a relay. Just a couple diodes.

The neutal wire is located at the ECU below the glove box area. Pull back the carpet, remove the metal plate. The ECU has 4 plugs. There is a green/black wire in one of the two top plugs (I forget which one). When the ignition is ON and car is in gear it will meter around 12v. When the ignition is ON and the car is in neutral it will read around 0v. Make sure you meter it, I believe there are more than 1 green/black wire in those two plugs.

I have installed many alarm/remote starts on WRX's and STi's since 2002. The method I will decribe is for 2005 and up. It has worked flawlessly every time.

Split the brake wire input on the remote start (make a Y). Add a diode to each of those 2 wires with the stripe side of the diode on the alarm brain side. Run those wires to the brake wire in the car (white/black), and to the neutral wire at the ECU (green/black).

The tach wire I have always used (green wire at the ECU) has been giving people trouble on a lot of remote starters on recent models. I did a 2006 WRX yesterday and I found a new wire at the ECU that works instead. At the top plug (closest to the firewall) there is a yellow wire in the column closest to the edge. I believe it is in the middle row. At idle it will meter around 2 volts AC. When you step on the gas it will increase a couple volts. I believe it leads to one of the individual coils.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:57 AM   #292
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hmm.. My 05 and 06 sti worked like 02silvawagon described, but simpler way to do it which is pretty slick is most remote starts have an enable disable witch, which looks for ground to allow rs to work. So if you connect the nuetral safety switch to this switch input instead of ground (often times its a dip switch with a red rubber piece over the switch) the remote start will only activate if in nuetral, and no need to diode isolate and even potentially backfeed to the ecu with the brake wire. This way I describe is a low voltage / current draw to trigger the remote start. Of course though you would not be able to use the switch as it was intended (enable/disable) unless you diode isolate the ecu nuetral safety switch and the ground for the dip switch.

I tried to explain this as clear as i could but if you still need some clarification let me know, in my opinion it is far better then what has prev. been described. In addition It has been tested on the newer sti's
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hmm.. My 05 and 06 sti worked like 02silvawagon described, but simpler way to do it which is pretty slick is most remote starts have an enable disable witch, which looks for ground to allow rs to work. So if you connect the nuetral safety switch to this switch input instead of ground (often times its a dip switch with a red rubber piece over the switch) the remote start will only activate if in nuetral, and no need to diode isolate and even potentially backfeed to the ecu with the brake wire. This way I describe is a low voltage / current draw to trigger the remote start. Of course though you would not be able to use the switch as it was intended (enable/disable) unless you diode isolate the ecu nuetral safety switch and the ground for the dip switch.

I tried to explain this as clear as i could but if you still need some clarification let me know, in my opinion it is far better then what has prev. been described. In addition It has been tested on the newer sti's
Unfortunately, Compustar's don't have a neutral enable wire/switch. DEI units do...and your method works fine on those.

Also, with your method you can still use the switch. It just needs to be inline with the wire going to the Neutral wire.
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Unfortunately, Compustar's don't have a neutral enable wire/switch. DEI units do...and your method works fine on those.

Also, with your method you can still use the switch. It just needs to be inline with the wire going to the Neutral wire.
Sure they do! Just use the hood pin input, With a switch sending ground to it, no remote start. If it's a newer impreza, wire the ECU to the brake wire and diode isolate. If desired, just add a switch to the hood pin input and voila instant kill switch.
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Sure they do! Just use the hood pin input, With a switch sending ground to it, no remote start.
We were talking about a wire that requires ground in order for the unit to work. Like the black/white neutral safety input on DEI units.

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If it's a newer impreza, wire the ECU to the brake wire and diode isolate.
Didn't I just explain that a couple posts up?
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:42 PM   #296
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i used a wire behind the gauge cluster for tach was much easier for me ....


also has anyone found a factory disarm wire ??my friend said he thinks it is a yellow/purple or some wire int he door boot with a purple stripe ....there has to be a wire in the door some where as when you turn the key in the door it shuts the factory alarm off...
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Old 10-07-2006, 02:35 PM   #297
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Does anyone know which wire is the neutral safety wire on 07 Sti.....
Yes i have tried searching. In the process right now any help would be appreciated....
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Old 10-07-2006, 11:40 PM   #298
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Does anyone know which wire is the neutral safety wire on 07 Sti.....
Yes i have tried searching. In the process right now any help would be appreciated....


not sure the color but it is in passenger floor unbolt the plate to get to the wires and its in there very easy to get to , just cant remeber for the life of me the color
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Old 10-08-2006, 01:31 AM   #299
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Does anyone know which wire is the neutral safety wire on 07 Sti.....
Yes i have tried searching. In the process right now any help would be appreciated....
Reread my post from above....#291
A 2007 should have the same ECU as a 2006 WRX/Sti. They haven't changed the colors since at least 2002, and I wouldn't expect them to until they redesign the car.
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:23 PM   #300
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Thanks for the info. This was on one of the special edition Sti's with the small rear spoiler. Nice car.
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