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Old 01-25-2007, 07:30 AM   #326
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what alarms would you recommend...only thing id really wants is 2way 400-500 installed and just basic alarm options. thanks
Viper 791xv and done. Ive got the Hornet 564T, which is the same thing, and love it.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:20 AM   #327
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For ease of use and installation, I like the Ultra Start series of alarms and remote starters. They have excellent range (6000' rated), plenty of features and are very straight forward to install. www.ultrastarters.com

I'm still trying to figure out why everyone loves the 791xv though. I've installed a few and didn't find them to be any better/worse than any other brand out there, with the exception being that their installation manual is fairly thorough, which makes for an easier install if you are attempting your first autostart ever.

I'm not bashing the 791xv though, its a good unit, just trying to figure out everyones obsession with it.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:25 AM   #328
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Probably because DEI has been in the game for alot longer than anyone else and makes a quality product. The ultrastart's look interesting, might look into one of those for someone else...
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:52 AM   #329
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Longer than anyone else is a bit misleading, they've been around a while, but so have others like Crimestopper: (not looking for a pissing match, just pointing out facts)

Directed Electronics was founded in Cleveland, Ohio in 1982 by Darrell Issa (now a U.S. Congressman representing California’s 49th District) and his wife Kathy, as a maker of vehicle security products. In 1986 Directed Electronics moved to Southern California, where the business began to expand rapidly.

Crimestopper Security Products Inc. has long been recognized as a leading company in the vehicle Security field for over 25 years. During this period, Crimestopper has innovated many industry firsts such as the first 2-Way Combo Alarm Pager and Remote Start system in 1988.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:55 AM   #330
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I havent really heard alot about Crimestopper in recent years actually. Doesnt Crutchfield still sell them?
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Old 01-25-2007, 10:07 AM   #331
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I havent really heard alot about Crimestopper in recent years actually. Doesnt Crutchfield still sell them?
Doesn't look like they do any more, I used to sell a TON of their stuff and then in the past few years they switched OEM's to a company overseas and they had a few bad years of random product failures (brains/remotes/etc..) Over the last 2-3 years they have started to shed those problems and are once again producing quality products (based on the 50 or so I have installed recently) and have really worked hard on improving their bypass modules to make them super user friendly and easier to install. However, since I still have a bad taste in my mouth from a few years back, I have started using the Ultrastart and Scytek lines more and more. Scytek (unless you get their "FM" versions) have range issues, at least in Fargo, ND, but Ultrastart has been VERY VERY reliable and is now my "go to" brand for high end installs.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:08 PM   #332
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I havent really heard alot about Crimestopper in recent years actually. Doesnt Crutchfield still sell them?
I just got the 745i off them about 2 weeks ago. Installed it myself - so far, works great. Easily 2x the range of the factory keyless. I didn't get the 2-way add on yet, although considering getting it now (the 2-way fob is plug and play into the 745's brain unit).

My only complaint is that you have harnesses coming off both sides of the brain- which means it takes slightly more clearance for mounting.
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Old 01-25-2007, 12:31 PM   #333
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I just got the 745i off them about 2 weeks ago. Installed it myself - so far, works great. Easily 2x the range of the factory keyless. I didn't get the 2-way add on yet, although considering getting it now (the 2-way fob is plug and play into the 745's brain unit).

My only complaint is that you have harnesses coming off both sides of the brain- which means it takes slightly more clearance for mounting.

That's Crime Guard, not Crimestopper.
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so...what would you recommend tjamz for my budget?
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Old 01-25-2007, 07:45 PM   #335
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so...what would you recommend tjamz for my budget?
DEI stuff will not work safely on an Evo. Go with a Compustar. Check out their webpage: www.compustar.org
Then search eBay and google for places to buy them if you will be installing it yourself. If you are having it professionally installed, buy it at the place that will be installing it. I believe they have a dealer locator on the website.
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DEI stuff will not work safely on an Evo. Go with a Compustar. Check out their webpage: www.compustar.org
Then search eBay and google for places to buy them if you will be installing it yourself. If you are having it professionally installed, buy it at the place that will be installing it. I believe they have a dealer locator on the website.
Ah, I missed the Evo part. Compustar has a good rep, I know a few people that have them, without problems. Avoid the ones on Fleabay though, and get it from a dealer.
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:00 PM   #337
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$400 to 500 is your budget, right? If you were in North Dakota instead of WI I would tell you that that is my installed price on an Ultrastart 4266M. Really they are all going to come down to how good the installer is though. If the installer is competent, any of the mainstream brands (and a good portion of the unknowns) will work just fine for you. The major differences are usually range and accessory functions.
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:35 AM   #338
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ya, just got a quote from local dealer here..for the 900fmr model for $499 installed w/o remote start. they are the only dealer here, hopefully the range on these are good...i tried to get the new ss model but they said they couldnt get them yet til another month or something. ...thx for tips as well.

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Old 01-26-2007, 12:42 AM   #339
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i just got the compustar pro series installed for 425!!! ****ing kick ass deal, i've had it about a month now. no problems, nothing but sick ass distance and a nice ass alarm



the guy who did it lives in duluth, if anybody's interested in making a journey for a good ass deal let me know. the guy that does it here in teh cities wanted 750!!!!!
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ya, just got a quote from local dealer here..for the 900fmr model for $499 installed w/o remote start. they are the only dealer here, hopefully the range on these are good...i tried to get the new ss model but they said they couldnt get them yet til another month or something. ...thx for tips as well.
Without remote start? Something about that doesnt sound right, since that is Compustars big selling point, remote start for a stick... and the SS has been out for a while now, but last I knew, they were still trying to sort it out.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:14 PM   #341
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ya its 499 w/o remote start and 599 with and they are the only dealer in my area so thats prolly why they're taxing me ....so compustar would be my choice for my car then?
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Old 01-31-2007, 12:49 PM   #342
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I'm about to install a Viper 5900 on my 2004 WRX Wagon. I think I've got all the information I need, but I just wanted to clear up a few things as this thread has become overwhelming to me.

- It seems that most people have gotten DEI's to work with the green tach wire at pin 9 on the ECU?

- I was going to try the relay posted on scoobymods for the NSS, but then this thread suggested that doesn't always work. Should I just diode isolate it from the hood pin input on the 5900 and run the parking brake to the NSS on the alarm?

- On the clutch switch, is it the green/yellow wire on the white plug under the dash? And when I diode isolate it, do I put the cathode ring on the alarm side?

I think I have all the other info I need. This is a very informative thread. Thanks!
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I'm about to install a Viper 5900 on my 2004 WRX Wagon. I think I've got all the information I need, but I just wanted to clear up a few things as this thread has become overwhelming to me.

- It seems that most people have gotten DEI's to work with the green tach wire at pin 9 on the ECU?
I used a yellow wire that I believe ran to an individual coil
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- I was going to try the relay posted on scoobymods for the NSS, but then this thread suggested that doesn't always work. Should I just diode isolate it from the hood pin input on the 5900 and run the parking brake to the NSS on the alarm?
Since your NSS is reversed, this would probably be your best bet, but your hood wont be monitored.
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I think I have all the other info I need. This is a very informative thread. Thanks!
I think thats right, but I would have to look again. As far as I know though, you dont need to isolate it, but someone can correct me if Im wrong.
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I used a yellow wire that I believe ran to an individual coil
I agree it is best to use this wire. On older DEI units the green wire worked fine. On current models the yellow works better.

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Since your NSS is reversed, this would probably be your best bet, but your hood wont be monitored.
Your hood won't be monitored when you park the car in gear. If you park it in neutral, it will be monitored. I recommend doing it this way. It is the way I do it on 2002-04 models.

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I think thats right, but I would have to look again. As far as I know though, you dont need to isolate it, but someone can correct me if Im wrong.
I usually use the (-) starter output (skinny purple wire) on a DEI unit to bypass the clutch. A diode is needed.
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I'm not even going to hook up a hood switch. This whole project is more for remote start than it is security. Security is an added bonus.

I was planning to use the blue status output netZ mentions earlier in the thread for the clutch bypass. I'm just curious which way to point the diode. My logic was that the signal for the neutral switch is coming from the car and you put the stripe on the car side. This one the signal comes from the alarm, so I was goign to put the stripe on the alarm side. Is that correct?
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I'm not even going to hook up a hood switch. This whole project is more for remote start than it is security. Security is an added bonus.

I was planning to use the blue status output netZ mentions earlier in the thread for the clutch bypass. I'm just curious which way to point the diode. My logic was that the signal for the neutral switch is coming from the car and you put the stripe on the car side. This one the signal comes from the alarm, so I was goign to put the stripe on the alarm side. Is that correct?
Yes, I used the blue wire youre talking about. My alarm had two, one was for my clutch, and the other for my key bypass. I hooked up the defroster to an AUX output, so I can activate it when necessary.
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Old 02-02-2007, 04:29 PM   #347
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Old 02-02-2007, 05:46 PM   #348
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Hi guys, ive been lurking for a while. Just ordered the viper 560xv and this thread has been extremely helpful. Quick question though, Ive seen a reference to a turbo timer harness that plugs into the integrated module so you dont have to splice into the wires. Can someone give me more info on this and where I can get it for and how much? Thanks.

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Old 02-02-2007, 05:51 PM   #349
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Also, is there a tutorial anywhere on the best way to make good, clean wire connections? (without soldering).
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Also, is there a tutorial anywhere on the best way to make good, clean wire connections? (without soldering).
Not possible (without soldering). Any connector you could use would be visible to a thief and makes the alarm stand out.
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