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Old 02-03-2007, 02:22 AM   #351
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I'm not even going to hook up a hood switch. This whole project is more for remote start than it is security. Security is an added bonus.

I was planning to use the blue status output netZ mentions earlier in the thread for the clutch bypass. I'm just curious which way to point the diode. My logic was that the signal for the neutral switch is coming from the car and you put the stripe on the car side. This one the signal comes from the alarm, so I was goign to put the stripe on the alarm side. Is that correct?
If you are going to use the blue status output, then no diode is needed if it is only connected to the clucth wire. You don't have to do a transponder bypass for your car, so I assume the blue status will only be used for the clutch bypass. If you want to use a diode, then you are correct....the stripe is on the alarm side.

If you aren't going to hook up a hood pin switch, then a diode is not needed on the neutral wire. It won't hurt anything if you do use a diode.
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:01 AM   #352
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Hi guys, ive been lurking for a while. Just ordered the viper 560xv and this thread has been extremely helpful. Quick question though, Ive seen a reference to a turbo timer harness that plugs into the integrated module so you dont have to splice into the wires. Can someone give me more info on this and where I can get it for and how much? Thanks.

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A turbo timer harness plugs directly into the ignition harness itself. Its a quick (and very easy) way out, but its hard to disguise. Ill leave the choice to you...

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Also, is there a tutorial anywhere on the best way to make good, clean wire connections? (without soldering).
You can crimp, but solder is better for stealth. You could wrap the crimp with electrical tape, but that will stand out like a sore thumb to anyone who knows what to look for.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:47 PM   #353
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where can i get one and how much?
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:04 AM   #354
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Google it. I just did and found them for ~$20.

I'm doing mine more for remote start than the alarm, so I'm going with this harness. Glad I looked in here.

I started my install Saturday. It was 10 degrees outside though and my dad didn't have a big enough heater to heat his whole garage (I live in a condo with just a carport) I was at it for about 5 hours. Got a few connections made, but it was just too cold and I was getting really sore from kneeling on a few towels on the cold concrete. So I'll have to wait for warmer weather. Sure would have been nice to remote start today at -8F! I'll feel much better using this turbo timer harness though I think.
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Old 02-06-2007, 11:18 PM   #355
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Just a quick note on MY05 and up 5MT's, the neutral position indicator wire (NSS or NPS) polarity was switched as seen in the MY02-MY04, so it can no longer be simply tapped into the hood/trunk pin wire. Instead, you must diode isolate it, along with the brake wire, and tap it into the brake wire/shut down lead. The stripes of the diode should be facing toward the brain of the RS/Alarm. If you don't diode isolate, it will pop your brake wire/light fuse, and the brake shutdown switch wont operate properly.

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Old 02-07-2007, 12:40 AM   #356
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ijb are you saying that its not ground ? and it cant be connected (diode isolated) to the hood pin? cuz um, I have had a 05 sti and and 06 sti and it is ground and can be connected to the hood or to the rs renable switch if equipped.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:36 AM   #357
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As far as i can tell. If you hook it up to your hood pin, and diode isolate it like everyone has said before on the MY04-previous, your car is going to think that the hood is open when the car is in neutral. I even tried this, and when i tried to arm the factory system, it gave the "error" of 5 honks telling me that there was a pin open. Maybe its different with the STi's, i just noticed on my WRX that this was the case.
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Old 02-17-2007, 06:25 PM   #358
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Well I finally finished installing my Viper 5900. Works great, with a few "but's" My neutral safety doesn't work. Not sure if I didn't make a good connection. It gets more confusing. I wired a switch inline (as per the instructions) with the hood pin wire from the alarm to the wire on the ECM. If I turn the switch off and test on the alarm side of the switch, I have 12V. Is that right for the hood pin input? I'm wondering if my wires are messed up from my control module. I remote started the car and it fired up fine. Then I hit the brake and the engine died. Not surprising. Now if I just set the alarm and then hit the brake, the alarm goes off and the remote reports that the hood has been opened. Huh? How can I trouble shoot this?

After screwing around testing with the neutral switch, I forgot the car was in gear. The parking brake was set and I remote started it (in my in-laws heated garage) Luckily the parking brake held. It moved forward about 6 inches, almost hitting the push mower, and then the starter disengaged. I reached in (had the windows down) and put her in neutral before the starter made a successful attempt. Shew!

The only other thing I need to do is connect the ebrake wire. Right now I just grounded it so the remote start would work. I didn't have time to take out the center console to get to the ebrake wire. I used a turbo timer harness for the remote start and it worked great.

Now I'm excited to see if I can remote start from my desk at work.

Thanks for this great thread! I never would have tried without it!
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:21 AM   #359
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Bump. I can also report that it seems to work from my desk.
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Old 03-28-2007, 10:54 PM   #360
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Just a quick note on MY05 and up 5MT's, the neutral position indicator wire (NSS or NPS) polarity was switched as seen in the MY02-MY04, so it can no longer be simply tapped into the hood/trunk pin wire. Instead, you must diode isolate it, along with the brake wire, and tap it into the brake wire/shut down lead. The stripes of the diode should be facing toward the brain of the RS/Alarm. If you don't diode isolate, it will pop your brake wire/light fuse, and the brake shutdown switch wont operate properly.

If anyone has any more questions or anything, shoot me a PM, I'm MECP and always willing to help out as much as I can.
I just edited the original post to reflect this. Thanks to you and everyone else that pointed it out.
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Old 03-30-2007, 03:21 AM   #361
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I had my 791 installed months ago. Remote start worked fine but everytime I would use it to start my car...the airbags wouldn't turn on. My airbag light would be on as if they havent turned on and i'd be able to drive off without putting my key in the ignition at all. Anyone have any ideas what could be wrong with the way best buy installed it? I had it disconnected because I felt uneasy about all of it. all help is appreciated. thanks in advance.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:48 AM   #362
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I had my 791 installed months ago. Remote start worked fine but everytime I would use it to start my car...the airbags wouldn't turn on. My airbag light would be on as if they havent turned on and i'd be able to drive off without putting my key in the ignition at all. Anyone have any ideas what could be wrong with the way best buy installed it? I had it disconnected because I felt uneasy about all of it. all help is appreciated. thanks in advance.
If you can drive off without the key, it means they either didnt hook up the e-brake wire, the wire to the brake pedal, or both. Id be VERY cautious with the car.
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:45 PM   #363
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If you can drive off without the key, it means they either didnt hook up the e-brake wire, the wire to the brake pedal, or both. Id be VERY cautious with the car.
Yea. I am cautious. That's why I had it disconnected. So now I can't drive off without the key in. Any idea about the airbags?
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Old 03-30-2007, 02:49 PM   #364
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Is the airbag warning light on? It sounds like they could have possibly cut the wrong wire if its not working. Either way, Id take it back to Best Buy and make heads roll...
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Is the airbag warning light on? It sounds like they could have possibly cut the wrong wire if its not working. Either way, Id take it back to Best Buy and make heads roll...
yea the airbag warning light only goes on and stays on only when i remote start but it doesnt come on if i start it the engine with the key.
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Old 04-02-2007, 01:41 AM   #366
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It sounds like the installer skipped a few steps.
1. The brown brake shut down wire is not connected. This shuts the remote start off when the brake pedal is pressed.
2. The tach sensing wire was not hooked up. This wire is supose to shut the engine off if the rpms go to high or low.

The airbag issue has to be something they did by either cutting a wire they did not need to or connected a wire from the alarm to something they were not suppose to.
In either case i would take cucamelsmd15 advice and take it back to Best Buy and make the heads roll. I installed the 791 in my 04 WRX and i am very happy with the system. On a side note My dad had best buy install a rattler car starter in his toyota. Lets just say i ripped it out and installed a viper and now it starts everytime. Good luck with best buy.
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:47 AM   #367
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:37 AM   #368
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thanks everyone. i hooked up my remote start and the engine actually dies when i step on the brake without the key in the ignition but the airbag light was still on. hmm...i guess wish me luck at best buy
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Old 05-14-2007, 01:53 PM   #370
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Hi, I have an 05 STi and just bought the viper 5900 and thinking about hooking up the remote start. I read this whole forum and am still wondering about the whole neutral safety thing. with the 05 do i just hook up the wire from the dei straight to the ecu or does it require more? any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-14-2007, 02:01 PM   #371
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Door lock wire: red/white -- keyless module* (negative trigger)
Door unlock wire: yellow/red -- keyless module* (negative trigger)
Parking lights: Purple -- harness on front of fuse box
Door Trigger: yellow -- keyless module* (negative trigger)

I have searched around in this thread but haven't found an answer to this yet. Forgive me if it has already been answered.

I am hooking up a remote control for door lock/unlock and have wired it into the wires mention above in the integrated module.

My remote acts like I am pushing lock/unlock from the door. What wires do I need to tap into to make it simulate lock/unlock from the keyless remote?

I know I will need to do a double pulse for unlock to disable the alarm, unlock the driver's door, and unlock the other doors. Where can I find this wiring?
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You can tap those same wires at the keyless module for any keyless entry setup as long as it uses a negative trigger. The lock motors, like most cars, are a 5 wire setup where you have to run high current lines to the actual door switch...you should never do this unless you absolutely have to. they keyless module is the easiest way. if your keyless entry remote will only do positive triggers, simply use a relay to invert the trigger at the integrated module
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I just installed compustar pro on my 07 sti and everything works fine. I just couldn't figure out which wire was the trunk pin. Therefore I just left it unhooked. Can anyone help me out as to which pin on which module it is? Keyless or integrated? Thanks.
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I just installed compustar pro on my 07 sti and everything works fine. I just couldn't figure out which wire was the trunk pin. Therefore I just left it unhooked. Can anyone help me out as to which pin on which module it is? Keyless or integrated? Thanks.
Its been a while since I installed my RS, but Im pretty sure mine was a wire on the keyless module, but I cant remember what color it was. Im not sure if that color would carry over to an 07STI anyway.
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I just installed compustar pro on my 07 sti and everything works fine. I just couldn't figure out which wire was the trunk pin. Therefore I just left it unhooked. Can anyone help me out as to which pin on which module it is? Keyless or integrated? Thanks.
the trunk pin will be either yellow/red or blue/white. it's located at the keyless module (right under the driver side vent above the fuse box)

The wire will rest at 12 volts with the trunk closed and go to ground when opened.
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