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Old 08-09-2007, 09:14 PM   #376
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thanks the daddyb! it was the blue/white wire.
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Old 10-05-2007, 04:54 PM   #377
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get it done at the shop it is the best and fast secure way
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:21 PM   #378
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anyone knows how to bypass the stupid immobilizer in the key? i phoned a shop and he told me it can only be done using compustar and i already have a viper 5900 in my car...

also, he told me built in turbo timer cant not be used.

i am in a 06 sti, how did you guys did it?
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:33 PM   #379
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anyone knows how to bypass the stupid immobilizer in the key? i phoned a shop and he told me it can only be done using compustar and i already have a viper 5900 in my car...

also, he told me built in turbo timer cant not be used.

i am in a 06 sti, how did you guys did it?
you need to use a transponder bypass for the remote start to function correctly.

the dei part number is 556UW
It does require you to loose one of your keys. It gets locked into the box and you hide the box somewhere in your vehicle.

As for the built in turbo timer, if you have the remote start working, then the turbo timer will work as well. You just need to activate it.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:53 PM   #380
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two points:
1. the turbo timer that the alarm systems have are still functionable... like in the case of the code alarm where you engage the e brake it keeps the vehicle on for 5,10, or 15 minutes... all probably not useful times for the daily driver.

2. its been reported that a turbo timer for the stock setup isnt necessary as the vehicle cools sufficiantly now by itself.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:58 PM   #381
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Old 10-26-2007, 07:15 PM   #382
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thanks very much guys, i bought a similar one from a local shop. however, when i look under the dash, all i can see is a huge mess. now i am thinking rewire it. damn the guy who install this xxxx.

mine is a 06 STI, using viper 5900 system. i am not really into any fancy remote, but i do need remote start and turbo timer function( yup, i know, i dont really need it, but its built in,why not right?)

here is the link to the installation guide.http://www.directeddealers.com/manua..._05-06post.pdf

i tried to follow what op says in the first page, but i think it must be the model year. not every thing is the same

here is what i need from you guys,
door trigger input( when anydoor is open, that wire is 12v, all doors closed, 0v)
(-) 200ma domelight output( do i need relay for this?)
(-) acitivation input( what exactly is this anyway?)

neutral safety input
(+)brake shutdown input( its not the handbrake is it?)
(-)hoodpin shutdown input
(-)2nd status /defogger

200ma anti-grind/ground when armed output,( i should connect this to the bypass unit right?)
(-)200ma starter trigger( do i need relay?)
(-)200ma accessory trigger(do i need relay?)
(-)200ma ignition trigger( do i need relay?)
200ma programmerable ignition/accessory trigger( what is this?)

i know its lots of ?? but i really feel like i should do this myself, nothing to do with money, just wonder to see if i am capable of finish this by my self.

thanks very much for your patience and time.

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Old 10-27-2007, 10:35 PM   #383
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thanks for the help guys.

now i can trik the viper with some 12v and ground as inputs of hoodpin, neutral safety, and break inputs, i am not using the immobilizer bypass kit, i am only putting my key in the car, leaving it at off positon, i am able to get a remote start signal both on my remote, with a smoke indication( that is what viper use to indicate remote start) , and also on my ignition trigger( having a .6A output,), however, my car would not start. anyone know how to solve this?

just to clearify, i didnt use any relay yet.
the following terminal are left open for now.

200ma anti-grind/ground when armed output

(-)200ma starter trigger

(-)200ma accessory trigger

(-)200ma ignition trigger

200ma programmerable ignition/accessory trigger
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:59 PM   #384
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it sounds like you are trying to rig something to work, you should look at having it done professionaly. you cant just connect starter output and activation input. YOu have to have ignition, ignition 2 sometimes, accessory would be nice and some other stuff. relays should be used if you are using an wire that is rated at ... 200 ma, Ignition and starters are some high current circuits and 200 ma is not nearly enough. Youll damage something if you even try
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:29 AM   #385
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i didnt connect the starter trigger to activation input, now both of them are open, i just dont know where to wire them. that is why i am posting a question in here.

now the only thing i wired in the remote start harness is the iginition input(its an input to my viper. so i guess that would hurt anything). nothing else. for the rest of it, i dont know where to connect them. looks like i have to connect them to the ignition harness, but i am concerned about the 200ma myself too. however, it rated 0.5amp on my meter. iam still not sure should i connect those wires to ignition and starter, what would be happen if i supply them with insufficient current? the car would try to start but it fails? am i damaging anything then??
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:58 AM   #386
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likely damage would come to the dei accessory. YOU HAVE to use a relay. you need to follow the wiring instructions for the device you have. but from talking with you it sounds like youd benifit from having a pro do it for you. Even if it costs a few bucks, id say its well worth your peace of mind. you need ignition in/out , you need starter, you need second ign out and accessory out probably. theres power and ground you need, and the tach/ignition coil connection as well. but thats just an overview, please look into a pro doing it.
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Old 10-28-2007, 04:40 AM   #387
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i want nothing but the remote starter. i am not even thinking of the remote trunk and rear defogger. that i am sure i need a relay to control. which amplify the current.

now, those are the stuff really needs to be answered. when they say trigger, does it mean an output from the alarm, to the car system. and trying to start the car. i meter this thing, in the process of starting my car. my ignition wire is always 12v once i got the key in ignition position, while the starter wire remains 0v until i start the car.

(-)200ma starter trigger( where does this go, starter wire??) the black/yellow wire in the iginition harness?

(-)200ma accessory trigger(does it mean if iam not using any extra stuff, then ican just leave it open?)

(-)200ma ignition trigger(does it mean i connect this to ignition wire and do i need relay?)
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:01 AM   #388
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this sounds like a major PITA... All i want is a remote start, cn it be done for cheap on an 06 sti ?
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:08 AM   #389
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vrgs, those three wires you posted need relays! but like i said you need other connections, you need them for the remote start part to function. REar defroster and other things like that are bonus added features. Honestly, from talking with you you really should get someone who knows how to do this, you will mess something up if left on your own.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:09 AM   #390
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Let us know when your car burns down, vrgs.

Take it to someone who knows what they are doing, tell them what you're wanting, and they'll do it, because obviously (conscious observation, not trying to be smartarse) you have no clue what you are doing. BTW, viper (at least, used to be this way) will not warranty it if it isn't installed via professional installer. I'd hate to see you screw up a good car.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:20 PM   #391
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OK. This thread has been very helpfull. Thanks to all who participated. I am installing a DEI 881xp in a 02 WRX wagon. Almost everything is hooked up or bypassed. I have a few quick/simplistic questions:

1. Concerning the starter relay satelite, to verify, the purple (starter output) is connected to the stater side. And the Green (starter input) is connected to the key side? So the stock starter wire is severed, and is only connected to itself via the relay?

2. The nps is satisfied via the nss at the ecu via the hoodpin, so what do I do with this black/white (neutral safety switch input) wire with the toggle on it? Just ground it? If so, what is the switch's function?

3. Harness 1 has a white/blue (remote start activation input) wire. What is this doing?

Thanks for your help!
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:38 PM   #392
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1. Concerning the starter relay satelite, to verify, the purple (starter output) is connected to the stater side. And the Green (starter input) is connected to the key side? So the stock starter wire is severed, and is only connected to itself via the relay?
Yes, this is correct.

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2. The nps is satisfied via the nss at the ecu via the hoodpin, so what do I do with this black/white (neutral safety switch input) wire with the toggle on it? Just ground it? If so, what is the switch's function?
Ground one side of the toggle. The RS needs to see ground (or open, cant remember) to activate. This, IIRC, is the 'disable' of the RS.

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I'll have to look this one up..
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:52 PM   #393
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remote start activation input is usually a trigger wire for a bypass if my memory serves me correctly. you shouldn't need it on a standard install
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:57 PM   #394
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Pretty self-explanatory, actually..



and Here's the white/blue wire..

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Old 11-11-2007, 01:37 AM   #395
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Thank you both for your prompt reply. That is actually what I did, but felt somewhat unsure of my ability to interperet instructions. Thanks!
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:50 AM   #396
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One more question.

The door relay unit has an excessive number of wires coming off it. Which ones are used for the locks of a 02 WRX wagon?
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:00 PM   #397
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Nevermind. I guess this system comes with a door lock relay. But not necessary for this car.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:27 PM   #398
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OK. This thread has been very helpfull. Thanks to all who participated. I am installing a DEI 881xp in a 02 WRX wagon. Almost everything is hooked up or bypassed. I have a few quick/simplistic questions:

2. The nps is satisfied via the nss at the ecu via the hoodpin, so what do I do with this black/white (neutral safety switch input) wire with the toggle on it? Just ground it? If so, what is the switch's function?

Thanks for your help!
You can also hook the black/white wire up to the parking brake wire in the car. That way the car won't remote start unless the parking brake is engaged. You can still install the toggle switch inline to disable the remote start when desired.
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Old 11-11-2007, 04:00 PM   #399
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Has anyone used/purchased this Subaru Alarm Remote Start Install & Wiring Diagrams CD?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Subar...QQcmdZViewItem
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no. thats why we are here
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