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Old 01-22-2012, 11:13 AM   #601
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Yes, thankfully my vehicle is listed as having all of the options offered from the http://www.flashlogic.com/index website. I suppose all that is left is to find an installer that will install the 5902 without consuming my valet key. I will also have to try and test out using the fob while the vehicle is started.

Thank you! I really appreciate the insight from you and everyone else from this thread.
Really the factory fob working or not working should be a big deal when your adding a 5902. Disable the factory alarm if it has one and use the module for the coded key.
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Old 01-22-2012, 04:31 PM   #602
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Really the factory fob working or not working should be a big deal when your adding a 5902. Disable the factory alarm if it has one and use the module for the coded key.
Should or shouldn't?

It's just a bit of inconsistency when my factory fob can't work but the aftermarket can. I've never liked inconsistencies =P. Both of them should work in an ideal situation.

There's an authorized Best Buy close to where I live. It's about 5 miles from my house. Of course there's an auto sound shop 13 miles away which specializes in aftermarket remote engine installs as well. I'll call and see if either of them flash instead of using valet keys.
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:42 PM   #603
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Should or shouldn't?

It's just a bit of inconsistency when my factory fob can't work but the aftermarket can. I've never liked inconsistencies =P. Both of them should work in an ideal situation.

There's an authorized Best Buy close to where I live. It's about 5 miles from my house. Of course there's an auto sound shop 13 miles away which specializes in aftermarket remote engine installs as well. I'll call and see if either of them flash instead of using valet keys.
There should be inconsistencies because they are two different systems. Typically aftermarket systems ADD functionality that OEM does not offer. The aftermarket will work weather the car is running or not (in most instances, if you have a system like the avital 4111, it only unlocks once the vehicle is running, unless you've bought a new 4 button remote, then you can lock and unlock it like every other system) Some manufacturers (Toyota, Lexus, Ford, etc) design their systems so that the keyless is deactivated when the car is running since you are in reach of the lock buttons. So when adding a remote start if they disable this functionality, your up shiz creak without a paddle as far as the OEM remote working. Really though why does that matter if your getting a 5902 put in? You'll have a completely new/separate FOB (assuming it's not integrated into the key) that will have full functionality. If it is integrated, find a place that can copy keys and codes thats not a dealer and get a standard key made with out the remote built in. Put that with your 5902 remote and all is well.
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There should be inconsistencies because they are two different systems. Typically aftermarket systems ADD functionality that OEM does not offer. The aftermarket will work weather the car is running or not (in most instances, if you have a system like the avital 4111, it only unlocks once the vehicle is running, unless you've bought a new 4 button remote, then you can lock and unlock it like every other system) Some manufacturers (Toyota, Lexus, Ford, etc) design their systems so that the keyless is deactivated when the car is running since you are in reach of the lock buttons. So when adding a remote start if they disable this functionality, your up shiz creak without a paddle as far as the OEM remote working. Really though why does that matter if your getting a 5902 put in? You'll have a completely new/separate FOB (assuming it's not integrated into the key) that will have full functionality. If it is integrated, find a place that can copy keys and codes thats not a dealer and get a standard key made with out the remote built in. Put that with your 5902 remote and all is well.
=P I know they're two different systems silly. I just want them both to work since that's their function. I personally like using the OEM remote too. You seem so hellbent on destroying my dream of being able to use the cute fob! Meanie! Lol
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=P I know they're two different systems silly. I just want them both to work since that's their function. I personally like using the OEM remote too. You seem so hellbent on destroying my dream of being able to use the cute fob! Meanie! Lol
Watching your dreams crumble. :P (kidding of course)

Think of this though, if you put your cute factory fob in a drawer, if you ever lock your keys in your car, you won't have to call AAA to get back into your car, or break a window! Also the range of your new system will be far superior to that of your OEM remote. I think once you actually start using it you'll have less trouble with not having the OEM remote. If not you can always carry 2 remotes.

Understandable to have an attachment to the OEM equipment, and as I always say, to each there own. I design a lot of my installs around the customers expectations. I once setup a Toyota remote so a customer could roll down their factory glass in their SUV via the aftermarket FOB. FYI, roll down at this time was only capable through using one of the OEM remotes when the vehicle was off. When the vehicle was running, I integrated the OEM dash controls for up and down. Was a badass install in the end.

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Old 01-23-2012, 06:00 PM   #606
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Nice work CSVT_2004! Is that a 4 runner? I was able to run a wire from the aftermarket brain to the switch in the center console in one that I did (I don't recall the year of the vehicle, this was probably 5-7 years ago) and make the rear window roll down. I don't recall if I needed a relay or not but it was a wire that I found with a DMM.
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Nice work CSVT_2004! Is that a 4 runner? I was able to run a wire from the aftermarket brain to the switch in the center console in one that I did (I don't recall the year of the vehicle, this was probably 5-7 years ago) and make the rear window roll down. I don't recall if I needed a relay or not but it was a wire that I found with a DMM.
The switch wires for up and down can be found at the fuse box on the drivers side high kick. The only issue is t use those, the igniton of the vehicle has to be powered on for them to work. So rig something up so I can power on ign to roll the window up and down, or modify a factory remote so they can do it while its off, and then is tie in for the factory dash buttons for up and down while running. The latter seemed easier.

Love doing toyota's usually triggers for most convience features are (-). I did a sienna that had sliding L and R + power hatch. Used trunk for hatch, aux 1 for L, aux 2 for R, and then aux 3 diode isolated tied to trunk + aux 1 + aux 2. Could do each invidule or trigger all at once. It was pretty sweet I thought.
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:06 PM   #608
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Is it possible to integrate a viper remote start (5101) to activate/deactivate the OEM alarm (2011 WRX) via lock/unlock buttons on the Viper remote?

AKA i have to use the OEM remote to activate/deactivate the alarm and my Viper remote to lock/unlock and remote start. Is this common? How to fix?

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The switch wires for up and down can be found at the fuse box on the drivers side high kick. The only issue is t use those, the igniton of the vehicle has to be powered on for them to work. So rig something up so I can power on ign to roll the window up and down, or modify a factory remote so they can do it while its off, and then is tie in for the factory dash buttons for up and down while running. The latter seemed easier.

Love doing toyota's usually triggers for most convience features are (-). I did a sienna that had sliding L and R + power hatch. Used trunk for hatch, aux 1 for L, aux 2 for R, and then aux 3 diode isolated tied to trunk + aux 1 + aux 2. Could do each invidule or trigger all at once. It was pretty sweet I thought.
The car I did had a switch in the center console near the hvac IIRC. And yea, it only activated while ign was on.
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Old 01-23-2012, 08:58 PM   #610
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Is anyone familiar with the python 991 2-way/remote start? I called a shop for install and they said I need a remote start module for my 08 wrx and it runs 80-120 through them.. I bought the alarm through amazon for 200 but thought it comes with everything for remote start? I cant find it online either... thanks
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Watching your dreams crumble. :P (kidding of course)

Think of this though, if you put your cute factory fob in a drawer, if you ever lock your keys in your car, you won't have to call AAA to get back into your car, or break a window! Also the range of your new system will be far superior to that of your OEM remote. I think once you actually start using it you'll have less trouble with not having the OEM remote. If not you can always carry 2 remotes.

Understandable to have an attachment to the OEM equipment, and as I always say, to each there own. I design a lot of my installs around the customers expectations. I once setup a Toyota remote so a customer could roll down their factory glass in their SUV via the aftermarket FOB. FYI, roll down at this time was only capable through using one of the OEM remotes when the vehicle was off. When the vehicle was running, I integrated the OEM dash controls for up and down. Was a badass install in the end.

;< I tried to use the OEM fob inside the car while the key was in the ignition with the vehicle started. It did not work. I guess I'll have to use the Viper remote, once I have it installed, to unlock and lock when it is started remotely.
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;< I tried to use the OEM fob inside the car while the key was in the ignition with the vehicle started. It did not work. I guess I'll have to use the Viper remote, once I have it installed, to unlock and lock when it is started remotely.
Just remember, if you arm the system using the Viper remote, the OEM remote will not be able to arm/disarm the aftermarket system. Unless your module supports it, some module will allow control of aftermarket systems via the OEM remote. I believe that typically requires the system to be installed in D2D. I don't think that is supported on Subarus, but I could be wrong. Check the install guide for details, what make/model/year was this vehicle again?
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Just remember, if you arm the system using the Viper remote, the OEM remote will not be able to arm/disarm the aftermarket system. Unless your module supports it, some module will allow control of aftermarket systems via the OEM remote. I believe that typically requires the system to be installed in D2D. I don't think that is supported on Subarus, but I could be wrong. Check the install guide for details, what make/model/year was this vehicle again?
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2012 Subaru Forester XT
Not seeing any OEM control of aftermarket equipment. Usually DEI has them, but ADS is out in front on the subaru equipment.

SKU: FLCAN
VEHICLE: 2012 Subaru Forester XT SUV/Crossover 4 Cyl. Automatic
FIRMWARE: FLC-AL(DL)-SUB
Standard_______________ Keyless Access

Downloadable Software __________ Door Lock
RS232 Communication ___________ Priority Unlock
RS232 2-WAY Compatibility _______ Door Unlock
Feature Selection _______________ Trunk/Hatch Release

Security ________________ Remote Start
Arm OEM Alarm ________________ Tachometer Output
Disarm OEM Alarm ______________ E-Brake Output
Door Stat Output
Trunk Stat Output

http://www.flashlogic.com/solutions-for-vehicle/8494

Do remember a module will be needed for coded key, which is noted at the top of the page linked. The page shows the features of using a 2nd one for the convenience features

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FYI ALL, idatalink just posted firmware for 2012 imprezas!

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Is there any specific remote start bypass unit for the 2002 wrx that does not require the use of a spare key?
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Is there any specific remote start bypass unit for the 2002 wrx that does not require the use of a spare key?
Was 2002 a typo? The 2002 does not have a transponder key?
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Old 02-04-2012, 02:11 AM   #618
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Was 2002 a typo? The 2002 does not have a transponder key?
No, 2002 wasn't a typo. Its just the year of my car. My question was about the remote start bypass (
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). I was wondering if there was any other bypass out there that I could use for my car that doesn't require the use of this bypass because I do not want to leave a spare key with the module in my car. I feel like there would be no point in having a security system if I was to leave the key with the module inside my car (even though the car is armed, there's a possibility that whoever that is trying steal my car would happen to know what the module is and use the key).
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obi10, your car does not need a bypass. The transponder key started in 2005 in Subaru's.
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2012 Impreza RS remote start wiring:

12v+ - White- pins 4 and 5
Starter - White - pin 7
2nd starter - black/white - pin 3
ignition 1 - green - pin 1
ignition 2 - blue - pin 6
accessory - yellow - pin 2
Brake wire - brown/black in a white 4 pin plug at the brake pedal

Parking lights - negative black/blue at parking light switch

Tach - any non red wire at injectors.

Wrapped the valet key and burried it.

Car disarms with ignition and immobilizer
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Old 02-06-2012, 10:33 PM   #621
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I read through about 14 pages, but I couldn't find my answer.

Question: I am getting an Compustar p2w9000 Remote Start installed on Friday. The installer told me something about I need to bring my main key and a valet key for the installation.

Can someone explain this to me? Am I going to lose this key in the process?

I only have one coded key, will I need to get another one made? How much does that normally run at a dealer?
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Post your year make and model and these guys can help you. There typically its away around losing a key but it will cost you more for an additional module. Some installers prefer to just use the valet key since Subaru gives you three keys
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I read through about 14 pages, but I couldn't find my answer.

Question: I am getting an Compustar p2w9000 Remote Start installed on Friday. The installer told me something about I need to bring my main key and a valet key for the installation.

Can someone explain this to me? Am I going to lose this key in the process?

I only have one coded key, will I need to get another one made? How much does that normally run at a dealer?
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I read through about 14 pages, but I couldn't find my answer.

Question: I am getting an Compustar p2w9000 Remote Start installed on Friday. The installer told me something about I need to bring my main key and a valet key for the installation.

Can someone explain this to me? Am I going to lose this key in the process?

I only have one coded key, will I need to get another one made? How much does that normally run at a dealer?
What year is your car?

Yes, you will be losing one of the keys. It's a transponder bypass module. The installer will put one of your keys into a little black box and hide it under your dash.
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What year is your car?

Yes, you will be losing one of the keys. It's a transponder bypass module. The installer will put one of your keys into a little black box and hide it under your dash.
My car is a 2005 WRX

I have 3 keys total, I don't know which one is which

1 is a key with black plastic covering it. Opens doors, trunk, and ignition. This is the key I have been using since I bought it

1 key has not plastic and opens doors, trunk, and ignition

1 key has no plastic and does not open door, trunk, but starts car

What key is what, and what one should I give to the installer to "lose?"
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if you have an all metal key that starts the car there is no need for a second key..
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