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Old 12-03-2004, 07:29 AM   #151
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sorry, the info was meant for the dei viper 791xv. not too familiar with the airwolf system. if the trunk input causes the remote start to shut down... yuck, what if you wanted to open the trunk to put stuff in before getting into the vehicle?

the wire from tne transmission nps switch goes directly to the ecu. perhaps you're testing a different wire?

*note* couldn't find any online documentation for your alarm/remote start system... have a soft copy available?

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thanks for the comments netZ but maybe i wasnt clear enough...

already tested my alarm with the trunk open(ex getting a ground signal) and the alarm comes back with error trunk and wont start? so if i were to wire the neutral wire to this input the car will not start in gear...also about the doom light when i disarm the alarm (airowlf 20099) and DO NOT GET IN, it only iluminates the doom light for a split second begins to fade, so the 20sec pulse is reduced to 1 sec or a quick hit for some reason, wondered if i wired it wrong, but it is wired as described with a relay, and still not sure about the wire on the ecu the gr/blk wire i tested did not change whether in neutral or in gear...so need to look into that further, do you happen to know which wire and on what sensor on the trans itself it would be maybe i can work it that way...alarm works great aside from no netrual protection atm...also dont get the range claimed, but i have the antenna stuck to the center console facing the back seat, prolly to low ? would i get alot more range if i moved it to the windsheild by the mirror ? guess thats it thanks for all the help//./
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Old 12-04-2004, 02:54 PM   #152
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ok the car will not remote start with a door open or trunk open, but it will keep running if you open these things after car is remote started, I would think all alarms are like this for safety reasons, anyway the wire i found for the neutral, was the green/black wire like 6 wires from teh side closest to teh firewall, and didnt test as described, and this is the closest manual i can find online, this is the 20092 and mine is the 20099, but looking at it its pretty close, and did we even confirm , that if i run the neutral wire straight to teh trunk input will the positive voltage when being in gear harm the alarm ? or if i diode isolate it ill be ok ?
http://www.designtech-intl.com/Conte.../20092v4-2.pdf
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Old 12-04-2004, 07:54 PM   #153
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Question Need help, BOA remote start from Best Buy

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Anyone have the $50 BOA remote start from best buy?

Put it in today. All wires accounted for according to this thread.

I wanted to test it at this point. I haven't disconnected the factory alarm, tell me if this makes sense.

I go through the requirements for the remotes to learn and it's supposed to flash my parking lights.......didn't happen. I disarm the car depress the clutch because I haven't bypassed it yet. Theoretically the starter should be able to start the car if I have the clutch depressed. I get nothing, no relay noises or anything. I didn't run any wiring to the factory alarm but I am trying to use the remote starter with the car disarmed. Can anyone make any sense of my situation? Help please.


Could the brain of the starter be fried?
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Old 12-05-2004, 12:20 PM   #154
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Can anyone make any sense of my situation? Help please.
Impossible to tell from just a description of the problem.
Does this unit give an error code?
Really what is needed is some trouble shooting. Assuming this unit has a large connector, is it getting 12 volts at the connector? Is it grounded properly? Recheck all the connectors.
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:03 PM   #155
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Well after much waitining for parts i am going to install a viper 791xv in my 02 wrx wagon and had a couple of last questions. Im wiring two relays; one for the NSS and one for the Domelight supervision.

I know I need a diode on the NPS switch wire going to the relay, but what direction does the ring need to face?

Also how do i wire the domelight supervision relay?

How do I wire the rear de-icer?

I have a wagon so do I need to wire the trunk trigger or does the rear hatch use the same door trigger as the rest?
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:59 PM   #156
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I know I need a diode on the NPS switch wire going to the relay, but what direction does the ring need to face?
The diode ring goes toward the ECU.Here is more info
http://www.dreamspeedonline.com/foru...wtopic.php?t=5

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How do I wire the rear de-icer?
You need a wire that can give a pulsed ground when car starts. The defroster is on a timer so being pulsed , as comapred to a constant ground, is important. Here is more detailed info
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472356


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Also how do i wire the domelight supervision relay?
I am not sure you need one on a viper. My python dosent and it's a baby brother to the viper.
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I have a wagon so do I need to wire the trunk trigger or does the rear hatch use the same door trigger as the rest?
I dont know.
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Old 12-11-2004, 06:57 AM   #157
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Does anyone know which wire on a 791xv provides or can provide a momentary ground signal?
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Old 12-11-2004, 09:37 AM   #158
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Does anyone know which wire on a 791xv provides or can provide a momentary ground signal?
Small wire harness that has the lt.green/black,those wires can be program to do multifunctions,example pulse before start.pulse after start etc.Use the pulse after start for the defroster.
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Old 12-11-2004, 09:59 AM   #159
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no need to wire a relay for the nps off the tranny/ecu. diode isolate it to the hood pin for the pre 05 impreza's. the nps wire may not be strong enough to trigger a 12 volt relay, maybe an electronic relay.

domelight supervision as follows:
domelight supervision output to Pin 85
ground to Pin 87
12 volt 5 amp fused source to Pin 86
door trigger wire to Pin 30

when you disarm the alarm the domelight supervision output of the alarm system will trigger the relay and ground is sent to the vehicle's door trigger wire tricking the vehicle to turn on the domelight.

the vehicle should have a dedicated trunk trigger wire. wire it to the alarm's trunk input.

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Well after much waitining for parts i am going to install a viper 791xv in my 02 wrx wagon and had a couple of last questions. Im wiring two relays; one for the NSS and one for the Domelight supervision.

I know I need a diode on the NPS switch wire going to the relay, but what direction does the ring need to face?

Also how do i wire the domelight supervision relay?

How do I wire the rear de-icer?

I have a wagon so do I need to wire the trunk trigger or does the rear hatch use the same door trigger as the rest?
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Old 12-11-2004, 08:02 PM   #160
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All,
After about 15 hours I'm just about done, just need to hide wires and reinstall panels. Ended up using a relay for the NPS (shuts down with ebrake and/or putting in gear) also no relay was needed for the domelight super. Though I ended up having to diode isolate the door trigger due to feedback to the integrated unit giving a dim door light indicator.

Just wanted to thank everyone for all the help.
Tommorow I think I am going to wire a starter interupt relay, adjust the shock sensor and call it good.

Almost forgot, am going to connect the rear de-froster.

I don't think I can funktion ne more so i'm goin to bed now.
Again thanks to everyone for your help
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Old 12-11-2004, 11:54 PM   #161
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Sounds like a long hard day. Know them well. There is another wire on some DEI products , perhaps even on the Viper, that is somewhat of an oddball. Odd in there is little explanation for what it is for. On the python there is a wire on H1/3 white/blue called “remote start activation”. I used it tonight which led me to this reply.
Anyway what it does , when hooked up, ..flip the switch 2 times and the car keeps running ,take the keys out of the car, lock the car, go into a store or whatever..anyway nice on cold days when you want the car to continue to warm up.. Now I am aware that most alarms/remote starters have a similar feature activated by some ritual of the key fob. However since I can rarely remember all these different commands when I need them I just love a switch. Also wanted to add some sort of an explanation for this wire.
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:57 PM   #162
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I was just looking at the unused wires form my install and one of them was the green wire from the relay pack. Is that needed? If so, to what do I attach it to?
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Old 12-13-2004, 01:31 AM   #163
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This is how I have my heavy gauge relay pack wires set up.
I soldered them directly to the terminal posts on the steering column
Pink relay pack wire to Black Ignition wire
Both Red relay pack wires to Blk/Wht 12V Constant wire
Purple relay pack wire to Blk/Yel Starter side starter wire
Orange Relay pack wire to Blk/Blu Accessory wire
Green relay pack wire not connected

I am using engine checking and Tach sensing with the default crank time, but sometimes (mostly when its cold or I just turned the car off and want to remote start it again) it will crank and either rev up and die when the revs come down or not turn over enough to get the engine going. This is anoying because it wont remote start when I need to the most; when your breath freezes in front of you when you exhale.

Anybody have any ideas?

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Old 12-14-2004, 05:02 PM   #164
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I was just looking at the unused wires form my install and one of them was the green wire from the relay pack. Is that needed? If so, to what do I attach it to?
I think I answered my own question. Am I suposed to cut the starter wire and wire the purple wire to the starter side and the green wire to the key side?
As I typed this I realized that I must have been inhaling some serious fumes or something while I was doing my install

Anyway a confirmation would be nice to confirm I don't have dain bramage
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Old 12-16-2004, 07:47 AM   #165
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What are your thoughts on the OMEGA Max remote start/security system? Will all te info in this thread apply to this alarm? Anyone here has the Omega gps 2000? Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-16-2004, 03:08 PM   #166
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Well, after re-learning the tach about a dozen times I went ahead and changed it to voltage sensing and now my car will start when ever I want it to. I would rather use the tach sense, but untill I get some info on why it wont start (mostly first thing in the moirning and randomly after that) I guess I will just have to deal with it.
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Old 12-18-2004, 01:37 AM   #167
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Hey, I'm getting a Clifford Matrix 3.5 and am planning the install out. I think I've got it about all figured out, but my one question is concerning the domelight supervision output. I understand that I wire up the door trigger input on the alarm to the door trigger of the car in the integrated module. But there is a domelight output on the clifford, does this wire go into the door trigger wire of the car or is there a domelight wire in the car? What is the purpose of this wire, wouldn't my domelight go on when the doors are locked and off when unlocked anyway? And do I need a relay, the clifford output says it's only 200mA so it probably wouldn't power my domelight?

And where did everyone mount their sirens? I was thinking above the turbo in that area, but it'd probably be too hot so maybe in fender area above the wheel-well?
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Old 12-19-2004, 11:07 PM   #168
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Old 12-19-2004, 11:59 PM   #169
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did you test the tach wire? it's possible that the wire is either incorrect or not properly connected which is preventing the alarm/remote start system from learning.

use a dmm, set to ACC, ground black and use red to probe on suspected wire. voltage will increase when gas is applied.

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Well, after re-learning the tach about a dozen times I went ahead and changed it to voltage sensing and now my car will start when ever I want it to. I would rather use the tach sense, but untill I get some info on why it wont start (mostly first thing in the moirning and randomly after that) I guess I will just have to deal with it.
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Old 12-20-2004, 12:29 AM   #170
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Please help me see post. Installing 2WFM-AS Compustar, having issues finding specifc wires. Again see the post for more details.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...91#post8415891

Any help would DEFINITELY be appreciated, as I am on day 2 of the install.
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Old 12-21-2004, 07:51 PM   #173
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did you test the tach wire? it's possible that the wire is either incorrect or not properly connected which is preventing the alarm/remote start system from learning.

use a dmm, set to ACC, ground black and use red to probe on suspected wire. voltage will increase when gas is applied.

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I tested the tach wire before I tapped into it and the voltage ranged from about 3v to (5.5v when the throtle was pushed). Also it seems as though it is learning correctly 'cause the light goes steady less than a second after enter the learning stage. As far as the connection goes, it should be fine since I'm getting a solid light during the learning process.

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Old 12-24-2004, 02:58 AM   #174
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Cool BOA remote starter

Don't buy this unit!
When it works, it works. Rarely. However... :
- can not sync with the remote control at the first try. Usially you have to do the learning procedure several times
- has very limited range. The label says up to 500 feet. In fact, only when I extended the antenna, I got about 50 feet coverage (open space).
- The support is terrible. They have printing errors in the manual. The electronic version of the manual is NOT included with the disk. You suppose to be able to download it from the site (free on-line support). There is no such a thing. The site just anouncing the BOA products. If you try to access the customer section, they will want you to enter an access code (small white label inside in the BOA box). Usially after that you getting a page says that this code expired already and you have to reset it or to call customer support. Trying to reset it? You will see immediattely ODBC driver error at their site. And this broken database link is there for more than a month! Trying to reach customer support? Last time when I try, I have to wait more than 1 hour. And wasn't able to reach these guys. My last try was to send fax to boa and to their mother company. NO reponse at all. And I do NOT want technical support actually, i just want to download the manual.
- last, but not least. BOA dosn't has flash memory in the unit. Meaning that each time when you (or your car tech) have to disconnect the car battery, the starter lost information about your remote and you have to go with the learning procedure again.
- the only reason to buy this unit was the fact that BestBuy didn't offer anything else. And I am very disapointed. not because ot the 50 bucks, but because of the time I lost. Don't follow my mistake.
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Old 12-26-2004, 03:32 PM   #175
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Can somebody tell me exactly how to tie in the netutral wire into the hood pin circuit.
I don'want to get wrong ground to the ECU and where exactly to find the neutral under he dash board
Where do I find a connection for Voltage sensing

Thanks RS
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