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Old 02-03-2003, 03:36 PM   #1
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Angry eww

Im sorry but the idea of red gauges in front of my face and a typical subaru green side panel just makes it look like a fing christmas tree. Im happy I bought a 2002.
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Old 02-03-2003, 04:07 PM   #2
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Sure dude.
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Old 02-03-2003, 04:28 PM   #3
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But do you have a shift light and a t00t-t00t?
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Old 02-03-2003, 04:35 PM   #4
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glad you hate it...one less person on the waiting list
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Old 02-03-2003, 06:02 PM   #5
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Bingo! Don't buy one...
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Old 02-03-2003, 10:11 PM   #6
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It would be appreciated if you could make the thread titles more descriptive, e.g. "red gauges - ewww".
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Old 02-04-2003, 01:25 AM   #7
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I'm sure you could get a WRX to swap guage clusters with you.
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Old 02-04-2003, 03:01 AM   #8
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You may be happy, but your stupid comment has made us all unhappy
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Old 02-04-2003, 11:44 AM   #9
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That's 30 brain cells I'm not gettin' back.
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Old 02-04-2003, 11:52 AM   #10
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red IS easier on the eyes. Your pupils dont dilate when looking at a red light in darkness.

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Old 02-04-2003, 12:00 PM   #11
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red IS easier on the eyes. Your pupils dont dilate when looking at a red light in darkness.

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Wow.. an actual intelligent comment in this post... BRAVO
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Old 02-04-2003, 12:29 PM   #12
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Just to expand a little on the won't dilate part...

Red is the hardest color to see for the eye. Hense why a lot of cities use bigger red bulbs in the street lights than the other colors: red is harder to see at night.

Ever see the color of night-vision goggles? They can show any color they want. They choose green. This is because green is the easiest color for your eye to see and since most people need night-vision goggles, well, at night, they need the easiest color to see.

This is also why most cars use green. If you've noticed on an older car, you can have pretty dim green gauges and still see it alright. Red would no where be as easy to see.

So then why do ship bridges, subs, airplanes use red for their stuff if it's so hard to see? Easy, since it is harder to see, it's a softer more subtle light and won't ruin your night vision. This is very important to pilots flying at night. They don't want to go blind by looking at ultra bright gauges then can't see what's going on around them. Same with subs and ship bridges.

There could be a good case for using red during night driving also, for the same reasons. However, usually most roads are well lit enough that the green/white/blue/etc gauges aren't hurting your driving vision anyway.

Anywho... a little bit of trivia there
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Old 02-04-2003, 02:45 PM   #13
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Red isn't the hardest color to see. It is the least likely to scatter over long distances. That's why you see a lot of red (or orange) neon signs. They're the most visible and readable. Blue light will tend to scatter (that's why the sky is blue).

You are correct about red light not causing nightblindness.

In a car, the scattering effect isn't an issue, nor is nightblindness. Car manufacturers can use any color they want.
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Old 02-04-2003, 02:55 PM   #14
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If this is a big issue to any potential buyers out there, it's surely possible to change the green LED's to Red. Just in case anyone actually takes this thread seriously.
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Old 02-04-2003, 03:11 PM   #15
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Originally posted by ObsidianRS
Ever see the color of night-vision goggles? They can show any color they want. They choose green. This is because green is the easiest color for your eye to see and since most people need night-vision goggles, well, at night, they need the easiest color to see.
I have to disagree with this statement. The green color that you see in night vision goggles was not chosen because it is easier for your eyes to see. The green color that you see is the result of the phosphors coated luminescent screen that is found in some image intensifier tubes. This link explains why this is very well.
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Old 02-04-2003, 04:25 PM   #16
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I got that information from a History Channel show on military technology. They had a specialist explain the goggles and said why they chose green.

I'll check out that link, too. Maybe at first they had to use green then with new tech they can use any? I dunno... just guessing there. But usually History Channel gets most of its stuff pretty accurate.
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Old 02-04-2003, 04:35 PM   #17
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Here's a quote about color sensitivity (full text here):
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In recent years, consideration of human color visual sensitivity has led to changes in the long-standing practice of painting emergency vehicles, such as fire trucks and ambulances, entirely red. Although the color is intended for the vehicles to be easily seen and responded to, the wavelength distribution is not highly visible at low light levels and appears nearly black at night. The human eye is much more sensitive to yellow-green or similar hues, particularly at night, and now most new emergency vehicles are at least partially painted a vivid yellowish green or white, often retaining some red highlights in the interest of tradition
This is why for a while there were yellow/green firetrucks. Because the color is easier to see. However, people were already "programmed" to recognize red = emergency vehicles, so they still stick to red today.
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Old 02-04-2003, 05:21 PM   #18
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glad you hate it...one less person on the waiting list
Exactly, you could always change them to whatever color you like.
Red is fine with me!
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Old 02-05-2003, 02:21 AM   #19
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Incorrect, Violet is the hardest color to see at night. One more wavelength shift and the human eye cant see anything.
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Old 02-05-2003, 04:09 AM   #20
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Picky picky... but I'll concede to that. I was thinking along the lines of the main primary colors.
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Old 02-05-2003, 04:24 AM   #21
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Incorrect, Violet is the hardest color to see at night. One more wavelength shift and the human eye cant see anything.
Wouldn't black be hardest to see at night?...oh wait...that's not a 'color'...
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Old 02-05-2003, 05:40 AM   #22
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The same arguement could be made for red being the hardest color to see. One more shift (less) in frequency and you've got yourself invisible IR light.
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Old 02-05-2003, 07:14 AM   #23
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bravo to those of you who turned an initially dumb post into a smart one. bravo and kudos. Its almost always the opposite case around here.
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Old 02-05-2003, 01:33 PM   #24
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bravo to those of you who turned an initially dumb post into a smart one. bravo and kudos. Its almost always the opposite case around here.
Let me get this straight... I ROBOT is advocating logical, non-emotional threads?

j/k,
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Old 02-05-2003, 06:09 PM   #25
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For future reference, one word subject lines of 'ewww' or any other noise a 3rd grade boy might say about a girl...will get tossed.

Please try and have your subject line accuratly summarize the info to be found in your thread, ill fix it this time.

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