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Old 03-05-2001, 10:55 AM   #1
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Post Sway bar install : suspension - to compress or not compress?

I did a search on sway bar installs and counldn't find anything. A while back I remeber seeing something on a rear sway bar install that dealt with the issue of suspension compression during the the install.

Is it easier to install the bar if the car is jacked up by the wheels or by the frame with the wheels hanging?

I got a 20mm bar from Sugar and she does super fast service. Kudos to Sugar!
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Old 03-05-2001, 10:58 AM   #2
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Do it on level ground.

Edit: (with the car sitting on its own feet)

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Old 03-05-2001, 11:12 AM   #3
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I did mine jacked up. What a mistake. Hurt my hand trying to line up the endlink bolts. It was my second mod.... what can I say? *shrug*
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Old 03-05-2001, 11:17 AM   #4
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The sway bar is not active when the car is on level ground, bearring its own weight (there is no pre-load on the bar). In this condition, the bar (therefore the bolt holes) will not be feeling any strain forces, so alignment is the easiest here.
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Old 03-05-2001, 11:21 AM   #5
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Thanks! I'll be sure and put in on the ramps then.
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Old 03-05-2001, 11:31 AM   #6
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Dont even use ramps, just slide under it and do it. Ramps will compress the suspension a bit and put load on it. Do it on the ground. it should take you 30-45min to get it done. Getting the stock bar OUT was the toughest part, lots of twisting and turning.
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Old 03-05-2001, 02:43 PM   #7
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I just installed a whiteline adj bar today took about hour--maybe. My car was on ramps without trouble. You can lower and check to lose screws/bolts afterward if your worried about compression.
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Old 03-05-2001, 03:56 PM   #8
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I did mine on ramps also, with no problem.
I did have to push up or pull down on one end to get the pin in the end link. That's puting a preload on the suspension, not a good thing unless you're going in circles. After puting coilovers on and corner weighting the preload on the rear bar was gone but now I've got a preload on the front bar. I'm getting Rallispec to make me a adj. length front sway bar end link to take care of the problem. Looks to me that if you corner wt. with the bars attached it shouldn't be a problem but all the pros say to do it detached. Check GRM's web site on corner weighting to confirm this.
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Old 03-05-2001, 07:09 PM   #9
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Ok now im confused,,i understand the preloaded bar thing,but how would that hurt if both sides are preloaded just a snick?The car handles very well ,,no surprises,,,yet lol
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Old 03-05-2001, 07:15 PM   #10
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I put mine on while it was on the ground, anything else would be uncivilized. if you put it on jack stands you need to drive it up and down them, which heats up the exhaust. when the exhaust heats up it sucks, no fun for your arms and hands.
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Old 03-05-2001, 07:28 PM   #11
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What happens with the sway bar preload is that when you pull down on one end to get it connected you are in affect stretching the other side. So when you've finished your install the side you pulled down on has more tension on that spring than if ther was no pre load and the other side has less. This is putting wedge in the car!
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Old 03-06-2001, 12:02 AM   #12
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I did mine on the ground ,heres my question.Did any of you guys have to flex or push the bar up slightly to line up the holes?? I did ,and it compressed the springs just slighty which in turn lowered the car slighty. The bar is a 20mm fuji from Dale.It was my 1st mod back in sept and i havent had any probs,if ya got jack stands its easier.
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Old 03-06-2001, 12:43 AM   #13
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I did mine on jack stands. I'd do it again but on ramps.

You're not gonna compress the suspension that much on ramp and it's a heck of alot easier with more room to move around.

I too got mine from Lisa@Troncalli. I love doing business with her...fair prices, quick service!!!

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Old 03-06-2001, 12:54 AM   #14
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Did mine on ramps with no problems. Gave me lots of room to work with.
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Old 03-06-2001, 06:31 AM   #15
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I did the install last night in 20 minutes. I used the ramps with no ill effects. Gives you lots of room to work. Although I only drove it around the block real quick. There was a couple inches of snow on the ground so the full benifits weren't available, but the car did feel a lot more solid. Thanks for all the replies.
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Old 03-06-2001, 08:20 AM   #16
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Richard..Ihad to pull both sides down just slightly,,the car sits level,im assuming i have the same preload on each side ,,is that right??
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