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Old 02-14-2003, 08:34 AM   #1
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Read a quick review of the 2.5 Sti in March issue of UK Car at the newsstand this morning. Not sure if already posted, but from what I can recall it says 2.5 STi is seriously fast, but not easy to drive. Quotes the specs as 300bhp and 299lbs ft torque. Some understeer is evident. Car is dead below 3000rpm then kicks in with serious power. ACTUAL times were not recorded, but it quotes mfr 0-62mph at 4.6 seconds. Brembos are amazing. Also says something to effect that hood scoop shakes noticeably at highway speed and rear wing makes some type of intrusive noise even at low speeds. MY SUMMARY...for what it is worth.
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Old 02-14-2003, 09:17 AM   #2
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Ok, I'll be the first sceptic...
How did a UK car magazine get the first 2.5L STi to test? This review also sound a lot like a review of the UK 2.0L STi... "Dead below 3000rpm"

The US is supposed to be the only country getting the 2.5L this year.

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Old 02-14-2003, 09:23 AM   #3
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I agree with briank, sounds suspect.
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Old 02-14-2003, 09:25 AM   #4
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I get CAR (just got the new issue on Wednesday) and I believe the article within is about the 2.0 with PPP and the new body style. Only skimmed the article, but the general idea is that it blisteringly fast, a handful on the gravel (but flatters the driver in the end), and a fun car. They also have an article on the Evo 8 as well.
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Old 02-14-2003, 09:31 AM   #5
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Could be my error...my have read so fast that did not realize it was the 2.0 w/PPP.
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Old 02-14-2003, 12:37 PM   #6
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300 lb.-ft. of torque @ 4,000 rpm
First off were talking about a 2.5L and second the car makes it Tq peek at 4k how dead can it be at 3? I dont belive it.
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Old 02-14-2003, 06:45 PM   #7
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Latest issue of EVO also had the 2.0 STi with PPP.
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Old 02-14-2003, 06:50 PM   #8
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I wouldn't be that surprised if you see that 2.5 STi is more lagy and less responsive compared to the 2.0 version with the twin scrolls. Just by having a max torque at 4000 RPMs makes me suspicious enough.


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Old 02-14-2003, 06:53 PM   #9
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I wouldn't be that surprised if you see that 2.5 STi is more lagy and less responsive compared to the 2.0 version with the twin scrolls. Just by having a max torque at 4000 RPMs makes me suspicious enough.
I would be surprised if you have ever driven both a 2.5 RS and a WRX. Engine response is quite different. The 2.5 (albiet without turbo) has snappy torque.
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Old 02-14-2003, 07:21 PM   #10
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I can vouch for the hood scoop making noise. I first noticed it after break-in (personal pref, not necessary) at 125mph. From there to top speed, it hums. I don't notice any noise from the rear spoiler, but it wobbles because of the air currents. At speeds over ~120 you can see it steady out and bow from the downforce. I don't plan on getting the PPP, it's powerful enough stock! Keep both hands on the wheel...
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Old 02-14-2003, 08:09 PM   #11
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[b]I wouldn't be that surprised if you see that 2.5 STi is more lagy and less responsive compared to the 2.0 version with the twin scrolls. Just by having a max torque at 4000 RPMs makes me suspicious enough.


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I would. 4000 rpm is where the old 2.0l STi makes peak torque, 4400rpm for the twin scroll version...what are you saying?

2.5L AVCS + VF34 /= lag

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Old 02-14-2003, 08:22 PM   #12
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Doesn't the 2.5L STi get the twin scroll too?
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Old 02-14-2003, 08:46 PM   #13
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I don't think so. See this post by Scooby South http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=308949

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Old 02-15-2003, 12:00 AM   #14
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I wonder if the spoiler leaves vaper trails behind it over 120 MPH like a jet does.........


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Old 02-15-2003, 12:32 PM   #15
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Doesn't the 2.5L STi get the twin scroll too?
No... Japan gets the 2.0 with the twin scroll,(which is ok with me because you loose the cool boxer sound with it) we get the 2.5(which would work better for us for obvious reasons)
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Old 02-15-2003, 10:18 PM   #16
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Back to back testing of the 2.5t vs. the 2.0t STi models, the quote from a test driver was "the 2.5t makes the 2.0 motor feel slow and a bit laggy".

And I've driven the twin-scroll 2.0 JDM STi, and it's anything but slow and laggy.

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Old 02-15-2003, 10:49 PM   #17
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Back to back testing of the 2.5t vs. the 2.0t STi models, the quote from a test driver was "the 2.5t makes the 2.0 motor feel slow and a bit laggy".

And I've driven the twin-scroll 2.0 JDM STi, and it's anything but slow and laggy.

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It is already hard enough waiting for this thing. Then Paul tosses us little goodies like that. Keep em coming!

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Old 02-15-2003, 10:55 PM   #18
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Paul, can you offer anymore info on that 2.0-2.5 comparo test drive? Will the details be published?

That is a pretty amazing claim regarding the strength and flexibility of the 2.5L. Not doubting you in the least, just excited to learn more.
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Old 02-16-2003, 12:28 AM   #19
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Back to back testing of the 2.5t vs. the 2.0t STi models, the quote from a test driver was "the 2.5t makes the 2.0 motor feel slow and a bit laggy".

And I've driven the twin-scroll 2.0 JDM STi, and it's anything but slow and laggy.

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Are you sure he was talking about the twin-scroll and not the UK 2.0?
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Old 02-16-2003, 02:31 AM   #20
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Are you sure he was talking about the twin-scroll and not the UK 2.0?
http://www.apexjapan.com/news/sti8/sti8.html

http://www.apexjapan.com/contact.html


Ya know im not sure but I do think he might know what hes talking about...

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Old 02-16-2003, 11:02 AM   #21
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lets here more about the review of the 2.5 vs the 2.0!!!! Please..... I need details lol
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Old 02-19-2003, 09:52 PM   #22
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I wouldn't be that surprised if you see that 2.5 STi is more lagy and less responsive compared to the 2.0 version with the twin scrolls. Just by having a max torque at 4000 RPMs makes me suspicious enough.


FYI the NA 2.5L motor makes 166 lb/ft @ 4000 RPM and 165 HP @ 5600 RPM

See any similarity here?

Have you ever driver an RS?

Better yet, have you ever driven a turbo RS?

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Old 02-19-2003, 10:17 PM   #23
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lets here more about the review of the 2.5 vs the 2.0!!!! Please..... I need details lol
Sorry, I can't, really. It wasn't a test drive done by us (I wish) but by a tester that I have talked with, and that I trust utterly. Being in Japan, all I can work on is getting an Evo 8 and a STi 8 in Japanese spec and doing a back-to-back test. This is an instance of my geographic location not being much of an advantate...

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Old 02-20-2003, 12:45 PM   #24
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how does the turbo rs drive???
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Old 02-26-2003, 08:25 PM   #25
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So who will be the first to incoporate a twin scroll exhaust manifold and turbo into the 2.5L STi?
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