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Old 06-18-2007, 10:38 AM   #276
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1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)
Koni inserts, STi Pink Wagon Springs, Group N "STi" Strut Mounts(front and rear), 22mm Whiteline FSB, 24mm Whiteline RSB, KB Endlinks(front and rear)
2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).
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5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:06 PM   #277
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1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)
Eibach wagon springs
2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).
17x7.5 Rota Grids
3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).
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4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?
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5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)
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Old 06-29-2007, 04:28 PM   #278
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1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)
Tein H-techs now SPT pinks
2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).
17x7.5 Rota Subzeros +48
3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).
Bridgestone RE-70
4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?
none
5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)
yes with H-techs and passengers and aggressive turns/ no rubbing with SPT Pinks
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:13 PM   #279
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Default 17x8 STI BBS wheels with 225/45-17 Micheline Pilot A/ on wagon

Question for the group.

I have ordered for 17x8 forged prior year JDM STI take-off BBS alloy wheels with +53mm offset and 5x100 bolt pattern for my 07 REX wagon.

The question is, would I rub without rolling the fenders, if I were to put on 225/45-17 Michelin Pilot Sport a/s tires ? Especially since mine is a wagon.

Note: My wagon has the non-lowered stock suspension and note that these are NOT 17x7.5 53mm offset wheels like on the 04 USDM STi but 17x8 with 53mm offset which was unavailable in the US market.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:49 PM   #280
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Akoshy, PM'd you. You should be fine with that setup.
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Old 07-02-2007, 01:10 PM   #281
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Akoshy, PM'd you. You should be fine with that setup.
Thank you. Just PMd back.
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Old 07-02-2007, 09:52 PM   #282
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Question for the group.

I have ordered for 17x8 forged prior year JDM STI take-off BBS alloy wheels with +53mm offset and 5x100 bolt pattern for my 07 REX wagon.

The question is, would I rub without rolling the fenders, if I were to put on 225/45-17 Michelin Pilot Sport a/s tires ? Especially since mine is a wagon.

Note: My wagon has the non-lowered stock suspension and note that these are NOT 17x7.5 53mm offset wheels like on the 04 USDM STi but 17x8 with 53mm offset which was unavailable in the US market.

Do you have any pics of the wheels?
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Old 07-02-2007, 10:34 PM   #283
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Do you have any pics of the wheels?
I have not received the wheels yet but yes, I did receive emailed pictures of the wheels, prior to the purchase. They look like BBS RE wheels, just that they are 17x8.
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Old 07-03-2007, 10:15 AM   #284
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Post the pics if possible. Hopefully they aren't shipping you a 5 x 114.3 in error.
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Old 07-03-2007, 12:32 PM   #285
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Post the pics if possible. Hopefully they aren't shipping you a 5 x 114.3 in error.

These have been on a 2002 WRX wagon (with rolled rear fenders) for a bit.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:21 PM   #286
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1) BC racing inverted coilovers, not sure of the drop, but the rear tires are tucked a little
2) rota subzeros 17x7.5, believe 48 offset, not sure though
3) Toyo Proxes RA-1 235/40/17
4) rolled the lip in on the rear
5) NO rubbing
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:06 PM   #287
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1) STI Takeoff Springs on stock struts, about -1.5 camber on front and back
2) Enkei RPF-1s, 17x8, ET45
3) Falken Azenis RT-615, 235/40/17
4) No rolling
5) No rubbing

I wanna flesh out the wheel gap with tire, not an 18" wheel + rubber band. So will I be able to have a 225/45 or 235/45 tire without rub when these Falkens wear out?

Wagon Lords of NASIOC, please tell me truths.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:36 PM   #288
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Bump for advice?
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:27 PM   #289
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1) STI Takeoff Springs on stock struts, about -1.5 camber on front and back
2) Enkei RPF-1s, 17x8, ET45
3) Falken Azenis RT-615, 235/40/17
4) No rolling
5) No rubbing

I wanna flesh out the wheel gap with tire, not an 18" wheel + rubber band. So will I be able to have a 225/45 or 235/45 tire without rub when these Falkens wear out?

Wagon Lords of NASIOC, please tell me truths.
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Bump for advice?
Maybe this will help with your decision:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Your 235/40-17 Sidewall of 3.7" will increase to 4.0 with the 225/40 and 4.2 with the 235/45

And just to compare, my 225/40-18's vs a 225/45-17:

Even though my sidewall of 3.5" vs the 225/45-17's 4.0" is 1/2" less, the radius, diameter, circumference and revs stay almost exactly the same.

So 18" wheels don't "fill" the gap with the correct tire size, as my 18's with "rubber bands" have the same sidewall as yours

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Old 10-16-2007, 11:31 PM   #290
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Maybe this will help with your decision:

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Your 235/40-17 Sidewall of 3.7" will increase to 4.0 with the 225/40 and 4.2 with the 235/45

And just to compare, my 225/40-18's vs a 225/45-17:

Even though my sidewall of 3.5" vs the 225/45-17's 4.0" is 1/2" less, the radius, diameter, circumference and revs stay almost exactly the same.

So 18" wheels don't "fill" the gap with the correct tire size, as my 18's with "rubber bands" have the same sidewall as yours
http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp <---this one's even sweeter, it includes offset data and accounts for wheel width.

So any loss in ride comfort? And my question was whether I'd rub with the "correct size tire" but non-stock wheel width (17x8). I did have 225/40s on a set of 18" Rotas, and gave them up. I can't be sure if it was because of the wheels or the tires or even my suspension setup, but the ride is less caustic on 17s. The 18s were truly bumpy, and California roads are such that I rather have more rubber between me and the malformed road.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:37 PM   #291
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My 235/40R17 Toyo R888 is not bad for ride comfort, even though they are R comps, and I use JIC FLT-A2, they are much better than a 225/40R18 on the same setup. Your wheels will also change your ride comfort, heavier wheels will not be as nice to you compared to a lighter wheel. Your suspension has to be able to move like it is designed to...

I have 17x8 +45 Enkei RPF-1 on my wagon and you will rub if you do not roll the back, this is guaranteed for a tire like the RT-615 or anything bigger than the RE070 225/45R17. You will have 2 possible rub spots, the fender itself, and the bumper attachement point at the rear of the fender. The only way to get around this is LOTS of camber...you will need camber plates as you will rub the strut if you use the camber bolts.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:42 PM   #292
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http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp <---this one's even sweeter, it includes offset data and accounts for wheel width.

So any loss in ride comfort? And my question was whether I'd rub with the "correct size tire" but non-stock wheel width (17x8).....
My bad... I thought your question was about this:

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1)I wanna flesh out the wheel gap with tire, not an 18" wheel + rubber band. So will I be able to have a 225/45 or 235/45 tire without rub when these Falkens wear out?

Wagon Lords of NASIOC, please tell me truths.
Just trying to help.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:48 PM   #293
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My bad... I thought your question was about this:



Just trying to help.
Well, yes, it was that too. I added the ride comfort question as an addendum to the original rub concern. I do appreciate the help all the same. I don't hear from the Wagon Lords all that often.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:54 PM   #294
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My 235/40R17 Toyo R888 is not bad for ride comfort, even though they are R comps, and I use JIC FLT-A2, they are much better than a 225/40R18 on the same setup. Your wheels will also change your ride comfort, heavier wheels will not be as nice to you compared to a lighter wheel. Your suspension has to be able to move like it is designed to...

I have 17x8 +45 Enkei RPF-1 on my wagon and you will rub if you do not roll the back, this is guaranteed for a tire like the RT-615 or anything bigger than the RE070 225/45R17. You will have 2 possible rub spots, the fender itself, and the bumper attachement point at the rear of the fender. The only way to get around this is LOTS of camber...you will need camber plates as you will rub the strut if you use the camber bolts.
Ok, good to know, thanks for replying! No audible or visual evidence of rubbing yet, so I hope that lasts for a while, otherwise it's time to get the baseball bat out and start clobberin' my fender...
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Ok, good to know, thanks for replying! No audible or visual evidence of rubbing yet, so I hope that lasts for a while, otherwise it's time to get the baseball bat out and start clobberin' my fender...
Please don't use a bat on the wagon. Take the car to E Auto and they can completely flatted the lip. If you feel my lips in the back, they are so nice, they feel like they came from the factory like that. You will most likely rub when you turn hard with a load in the rear.
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Please don't use a bat on the wagon. Take the car to E Auto and they can completely flatted the lip. If you feel my lips in the back, they are so nice, they feel like they came from the factory like that. You will most likely rub when you turn hard with a load in the rear.
How much is it to do?
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:32 PM   #297
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:45 PM   #298
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02 wagon 17x7.5 Rota subzero 48mm offset, 225/45-17 Bridgestone RE070. Tokico D Spec struts and Tein H Tech springs

Rear does rub when hitting big bumps and quick corners. Will be rolling the inner lip on rear fenders.

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Can't seem to find the answer to this so does anyone know if 235/40/17 tires on a 17x8.5" wide rims with 50mm offset will fit on an 06 Wagon with stock suspension? Most of the threads I find are with 8" wide rims.. just want to make sure. Thanks!
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Can't seem to find the answer to this so does anyone know if 235/40/17 tires on a 17x8.5" wide rims with 50mm offset will fit on an 06 Wagon with stock suspension? Most of the threads I find are with 8" wide rims.. just want to make sure. Thanks!
I had pzero nero's in 225 on a 8.5 +45 and there was less than 1 1/2" between the tire and the front strut on a stock suspension/alignment, besides the fact that the wheels stuck out past the front fenders....

I doubt 8.5 +50 will work, since you'll be 5mm"s closer to the strut, specially with 235's
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