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Old 03-21-2003, 08:41 PM   #26
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Default i'm rubbing

1) Eibach Pro Kits ( 1.3" F, 1" R ), stock struts
2) Rota SDR 17x7.5 48mm
3) Bridgestone Pole Position S-03 215/45ZR 17
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got the wheels on the car on tuesday. i took an on ramp pretty hard and got the tires to rub. they hit the fender protector and destroyed a small section of it, enough to expose the metal clips that keep it snug against the fender.

no damage to the car ( other than the protector ), but the tire has a few razor thin slices in the top most corner of the tread. the tire seems fine.

i am going to pursue alternative remedees to this, but will most likely have the fenders rolled as opposed to replacing the springs.
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Old 03-21-2003, 08:50 PM   #27
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i just got off the phone with a friend of mine that owns a body shop... i'm meeting him on monday to have the fenders rolled. ( if it aint one thing, its another. so goes it when modding yer car ).

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Old 03-27-2003, 04:50 PM   #28
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Thumbs up Toyo T1-S 225/45-17

Okay, had these big boys mounted this morning and have thrown the car hard into some tight 90 degree corners and blasted through some deep dips straight on and at angles to try to induce some rubbage. So far no noise, no rubbing. This is with a full tank and just me in the car. I placed the wheel/tire next to the stock RE-92 set up and the Toyo's are a bit taller. I wish they had a 40 series, that might be a better option. The Yoko. Intermediates I had on before were 215/45-17, lot's of clearance. I'll report further if I ever get a wagon full of people and see what its like. So far, I'd say this tire in this size is good to go on a lowered wagon.

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1) STi Genome Wagon Suspension, approx. 3/4" drop all around
2) Rota Tarmacs 7.5 X 17, 48ET
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4) No mods to prevent rubbing
5) No rubbing

EDIT: Just adding that there is no rubbing at full lock both directions going over dips and normal turning on flat surfaces.

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Old 03-28-2003, 03:28 AM   #29
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I'm the friend wrxsvt mentioned, and we did indeed install my wheels last weekend. I've driven them enough to know they're not rubbing at all, including some mid-corner bumps in a hard corner on a 270 cloverleaf ramp. No rubbing problems at all.

STOCK suspension
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Old 03-28-2003, 09:47 AM   #30
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Not to be picky or a punk, but do people actually read the subject & the first thread?

We're getting responses from people with 215/45-17's that are lowered & then people who actually have the right size tires (225/45-17), but they are on stock suspension. URGH!
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Old 03-28-2003, 01:49 PM   #31
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Hey Jon, maybe you can pick through this thread for the info that actually deal with your original subject and compile them in your first post, that way people don't have to sift through the unecessary stuff.

BTW, if you ( or anyone) want pics of the the Toyo's on the Tarmacs with the Genome suspension, I can mail them to you. Just post you email address here.

I must also add that it is somewhat informative, though off topic, to hear of people who have 215/45-17's who get rubbage with lowered suspension. Might make one avoid that particular combo.

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Old 03-28-2003, 05:15 PM   #32
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Omaha, I brazenly hijacked this thread , after you announced you got your 215s, and intended it to include ANYONE with 225s and a wagon regardless of suspension. Perhaps I should have started a new thread, but this one generally applies to 225s on a wagon so I figured why bother? Have one thread with all the info instead.

As for the 215 guys, that's good info but I'm pretty sure you can't get 215s to rub no matter what (within reason). Please do post if you have 215s on a wagon and they do rub though!
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Old 04-01-2003, 12:14 AM   #33
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Anyone have thoughts on this potential set up?

SSR Competition 17X7.5
Potenza S-03 Pole Position or Eagle F1 GS-D3 225/45/17

What suspension would have a good chance of not rubbing these on a wagon if I drop around .75 inches?

Tein SS/Flex/Wagon?

DMS Gold 40mm coilover?

JIC-Magic FLT-A2?

Or any other preferred coilovers with this wheel/tire combo?
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Old 04-04-2003, 01:15 AM   #34
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installed prodrives on my wagon today.....only got to take it on a short test drive on a bumpy road by my house......ride is not much harsher if not at all, then stock. Some bumps even seem to be smoother. Didn't hear any rubbing....but i also didn't get to push it that hard in a corner. I'm running attacks with 225/45/17 kumho 712's I'll post back later after I get to drive around a bit more and let them settle down. I highly reccommend these springs

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Old 04-06-2003, 02:13 PM   #35
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QUOTE{I'm running attacks with 225/45/17 kumho 712's I'll post back later after I get to drive around a bit more and let them settle down. I highly reccommend these springs}

Hey Mike,

This is my tire/wheel combo. I'm also thinking of the Prodrive springs but am concerned about rubbing during hard cornering and/or a full load. Be sure to let us know!

Eric

PS Any pics??
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Old 04-06-2003, 04:12 PM   #36
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haven't really had a chance to take some good pics....been overcast lately. I haven't really been able to do any real hard cornering either. But when took 2 other friends for a ride. Didn't hear any rubbing under full throttle, mod swerving, mod cornering(it was raining hehe)

drop is pretty even with rear being maybe a couple mm higher. I'm expecting them to settle down and even out. The thing you have to remember is that these are primarily sedan springs....on the stock sedans the difference in fender gaps from F&R is 20mm, on the wgn the difference is only 11mm
here are the best pics i have taken so far



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Old 04-07-2003, 01:27 PM   #37
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Question Yoko AVS ES100 ?

Anyone know if Rota SDR (17x7.5 +48) with Yokohama AVS ES100 225/45/17 w/ ProDrive springs will rub? How about stock height?
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Old 04-07-2003, 03:41 PM   #38
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I also have a 225/45/17 on Rota Tarmacs with Bridgestone Sport Contacts. and no rubbing after really hard driving?? Haven't put springs on yet, however, there is alot of room between strut assy's and tires. Springs will be added later this week.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:42 PM   #39
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Default 2002 WRX wagon rubbing!!!

Have a 2002 WRX wagon with some serious rubbing issues.

The rear track (on stock 16" rims) measures approx. 3/4" wider than other wagons of same model year yet identical to 2002-2003 WRX sedans. Car has a build date of 7/01 which seems very early for a 2002 wagon. In both cases below Kumho Ecsta MX 100 tires are mounted.

215/45/17 tires on 48et rims WILL rub in back on both stock springs and H&R's. When lower it rubs easier but even at stock levels when under load it will make contact with the fender. 225/45/17 rubs severely at any ride height will almost any load. Even the 205/55/16's will rub slightly under "track" conditions.

Luke? any insight experience with this??

Thanks,
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Old 04-09-2003, 06:48 PM   #40
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Default Re: 2002 WRX wagon rubbing!!!

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Have a 2002 WRX wagon with some serious rubbing issues.

The rear track (on stock 16" rims) measures approx. 3/4" wider than other wagons of same model year yet identical to 2002-2003 WRX sedans. Car has a build date of 7/01 which seems very early for a 2002 wagon. In both cases below Kumho Ecsta MX 100 tires are mounted.

215/45/17 tires on 48et rims WILL rub in back on both stock springs and H&R's. When lower it rubs easier but even at stock levels when under load it will make contact with the fender. 225/45/17 rubs severely at any ride height will almost any load. Even the 205/55/16's will rub slightly under "track" conditions.

Luke? any insight experience with this??

Thanks,
Lee
Lee, have you checked your alignment of late? Perhaps the rear spec is out of whack. If you are running positve camber or even zero camber the arc of the wheel travel might cause the contact/rubbing. Other than that they could have messed up seriously in the production of your car and used sedan components that widened the track! That would be freaky but it would at least be a warranty situation. 3/4" wider track is pretty much the sedan track measurement.
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Old 04-09-2003, 10:07 PM   #41
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Stock height, but did 700 mile trip with 5 people and luggage in the car, so it was lowered for a while.

225/45/17 AVS Sports.

P7's 53mm offset.

No rubbing. Ever.

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Old 04-10-2003, 10:22 AM   #42
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Default Re: 2002 WRX wagon rubbing!!!

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Originally posted by LRSWRX
Have a 2002 WRX wagon with some serious rubbing issues.

The rear track (on stock 16" rims) measures approx. 3/4" wider than other wagons of same model year yet identical to 2002-2003 WRX sedans. Car has a build date of 7/01 which seems very early for a 2002 wagon. In both cases below Kumho Ecsta MX 100 tires are mounted.

215/45/17 tires on 48et rims WILL rub in back on both stock springs and H&R's. When lower it rubs easier but even at stock levels when under load it will make contact with the fender. 225/45/17 rubs severely at any ride height will almost any load. Even the 205/55/16's will rub slightly under "track" conditions.

Luke? any insight experience with this??

Thanks,
Lee
Got the usual 17x7.5 +48 off set rotas w/225/45 Kumhos's.....no rubbing on the beautiful streets of NYC!!!

Just lucky I guess
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Old 04-10-2003, 11:42 AM   #43
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Default Maybe I shouldn't post this here...

Since the thread is about fitting 225's maybe nobody would be interested that I just put 235's on my wagon without rubbing.

I just put 235/40/17 Kumho Ecsta V700's on Rota Subzero's (17 x 7.5 +48). Actual section width of these tire on these rims is 9 1/8" (9.125"). I am running STI suspension with Cucso rear swaybar set on 24mm. On my quick test drive last night I was not able to induce ANY rubbing. I rolled my fenders last weekend in perperation for mounting these, but I'm not even sure if it was necessary. As far as strut clearance I have at least half an inch.

As a caveat I must say that these are my autox/track wheels/tires and will never be on the car with a load in the back (be it people or stuff). Still, at this point the clearance looks pretty good. I have an autox this weekend that will be the real test of clearance. I'll post an update next week.
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Quote:
Originally posted by tegnwrx
haven't really had a chance to take some good pics....been overcast lately. I haven't really been able to do any real hard cornering either. But when took 2 other friends for a ride. Didn't hear any rubbing under full throttle, mod swerving, mod cornering(it was raining hehe)

drop is pretty even with rear being maybe a couple mm higher. I'm expecting them to settle down and even out. The thing you have to remember is that these are primarily sedan springs....on the stock sedans the difference in fender gaps from F&R is 20mm, on the wgn the difference is only 11mm
here are the best pics i have taken so far


What suspension are you using?
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Old 04-10-2003, 06:41 PM   #45
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Rallyman5:

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installed prodrives on my wagon today.....only got to take it on a short test drive on a bumpy road by my house......ride is not much harsher if not at all, then stock. Some bumps even seem to be smoother. Didn't hear any rubbing....but i also didn't get to push it that hard in a corner. I'm running attacks with 225/45/17 kumho 712's I'll post back later after I get to drive around a bit more and let them settle down. I highly reccommend these springs

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Old 04-10-2003, 06:47 PM   #46
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So has anyone ran 225/45/17 using TEIN flexes???
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Old 04-15-2003, 06:05 PM   #47
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Default Update on my 235's

Well I ran the autoX on Sunday with the new wheels & tires and had a great time. My run group was the dryest of the day, so I was able to explore the limits of the new tires' adhesion. R compounds are NIIICCCEEE. Now, to answer the question on everyone's mind, I HAD ZERO RUBBING. For curiosity's sake I wish I hadn't rolled my rear fenders in preperation, because I think this setup would have cleared without it. Oh well. I'll need them rolled when I go for a lower ride hight. I'll post an update when I do.

To sum up, 235/40/17's (9.125" actual section width) on 17 x 7.5 +48 wheels will work on a WRX wagon with STI struts and springs. I am also running a Cusco rear swaybar set on 24mm, but I think the STI rear sway would work in this setup as well (without rubbing that is).

Any questions?
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Old 04-15-2003, 06:59 PM   #48
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1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available) STI VR7-RA with STI Wagon Coils about 1/4" lower
2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).
177.5J 5 100 48

3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).Falken Azenis 225/45/17
4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?Rolled the rear fenders rubbed
5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)Not anymore
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Old 04-15-2003, 07:07 PM   #49
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NICD.....got picS?
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Old 04-15-2003, 07:21 PM   #50
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nicd - how much did they rub on your wagon? since it appeas that Falkens run wider, would you have expected to need to roll the fenders with something like an S-03?
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