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Old 07-15-2003, 09:57 PM   #76
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judgegavel,

Do you know what offset those wheels are? I think the two most important parameters for fitting 225s to a wagon are wheel width and offset. I'd be real interested to know what the offset of the STi wheels are. They must've cost you a pretty penny!
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Old 07-16-2003, 09:06 AM   #77
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Im pretty sure its 48 I have to check though. On a side note does anyone know correct tire pressure for 225/45/17s
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Old 07-16-2003, 11:23 AM   #78
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Checked rims cant find where off set is listed except a 53 with a symbol that looked like a script M, so it could be 53
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Old 07-16-2003, 02:53 PM   #79
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I'm pretty sure that "53" is the offset. I have the same markings on my Prodrive P7s, and I know for a fact that they are 52mm offset!

Post a pic of those STi wheels on your wagon! Sweet!
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Old 07-16-2003, 03:27 PM   #80
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Old 07-16-2003, 06:01 PM   #81
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looks sweet
You gotta love the wagon!
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:08 AM   #82
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1) Prodrive Springs

2) Prodrive P7s w/ 225/45/17 Sumitomo HTR+

3) Nada!

4) That's a big negative!



Wagon feels like a completely different car now!!
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Old 07-19-2003, 11:12 AM   #83
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Jfrankon: how much lower with the prodrives, hows the overall ride.
Picture?
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Old 07-19-2003, 04:48 PM   #84
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17" Subzeros

225/45-17 Sumitomo HTR+ tires.

About 3 months on Tein S-tech sedan springs with no rubbing at all. Also have Perrin rear swaybar and endlinks set on 22mm. That probably helps keep it from rubbing a little.
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Old 09-15-2003, 10:48 PM   #85
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i'm in the same boat as many of us here - i'm on Prodrive springs with Koni inserts and had to borrow a friends tires to get home after a track day - he had 17"x7.5" ET50 SSR Comps with 225/45/17 Azenis and i had rubbing issues. I know the Rotas in +48 will rub, but what about the UK rims?

Anyone have any experience running those on a wagon?
I'd love to be able to run 225 Azenis without the need to roll the fenders, but I'm not sure if that's feasible. Anyone?

so to recap:
1) Prodrive Springs
2) ......................................... - fill in the blank
3) Azenis 225/45/17
4) No
5) No
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Old 09-16-2003, 08:36 AM   #86
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Post the following

1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available) - Stock suspension

2) The wheels you chose (size & offset). Rota Tarmacs 17x7.5 +48

3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17). Goodyear F1 GS-D3

4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing? Not Yet, but I will.

5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no) Yup - When the back is loaded, rubbing noticed going over "speed humps and when hitting dips or bumps in long sweeping turns, like on/off ramps

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Old 09-16-2003, 09:33 AM   #87
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I figured I should update this thread since I've switched tire size now.

1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available) - Prodrive springs, CUSCO front swaybar, Cusco rear swaybar set in the middle

2) The wheels you chose (size & offset). Rota SDR 17x7.5 +48

3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17). Falken Azenis 225/45-17

4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing? Yes.

5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no) Not usually

With the previous tire I experienced no rubbing so I then added a rear camber bolt to help tune out some rear negative camber. When I switched to the Azenis I experienced some rubbing. Part of it was the crappy whiteline camber bolts that wouldn't hold my settings no matter how hard I tigtened them & the lack of negative camber.

I've since put the stock camber bolts back in & removed the rubber strips & have no problems from day to day & autocross. I only experience a little rubbing when cornering agressively & fully loaded... I.E. 4 adult passengars + me the driver. Or half that load & on a high speed hard turn with a bump.

I'm happy to say I consider it a success that I can run 225/45-17 Azenis Sports (RS). 99% of the time I don't rub which is awesome!
It's helped me shave quite a bit of time off at the autocross compared to the Kuhmo 711's I was running (obviously).

Thanks - Jon
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Old 10-19-2003, 07:53 AM   #88
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Hey all,

I know it's been some time now but just wanted to re-hash this same subject.

Of you who have the Falken Azenis in 225/45-17's on a lowered wagon, how is it going? And what did you end up doing to solve any problems?

Jon - I know you said you are having good luck after you removed the rubber fender piece. How has it been the past month or two since you last posted? Have you tracked the car or only auto-x?

I need new track tires and would like to go with the same tires but don't want to roll the fenders

On a side note...has anyone tried the 235/45-17 RA-1's on the wagon? I know they work on the sedan and the guy that was running them said they fit more like a 225. Just wondering...but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't work The tire width is 9.3" and the dia. is 25.4 inflated.

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Old 10-31-2003, 10:00 PM   #89
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For those that solved their Azenis problems, how did camber play a role in your solution? I really love these tires, but I might have to go to KDW2s since they are narrower by a small margin. They probably don't meet the grip of the Azenis, but if you can't get coilovers on the car, it doesn't matter much anyway I would think.
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Old 11-02-2003, 07:43 PM   #90
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For those that solved their Azenis problems, how did camber play a role in your solution? I really love these tires, but I might have to go to KDW2s since they are narrower by a small margin. They probably don't meet the grip of the Azenis, but if you can't get coilovers on the car, it doesn't matter much anyway I would think.
mtb_dude,

I just picked up a set of the KDW NT (new tread) last Friday and so far they are great. But I did end up going with the 215 again. Before I had the S03's in 215.

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Old 11-13-2003, 02:00 AM   #91
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Anyone know how Pirelli PZero Neros compare as 225/45/17 in terms of width; are they wide tires, narrow, or fairly average? Thanks!
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Old 01-06-2004, 05:41 PM   #92
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17/7.5, 48 off 225-45s neogen on volk 57s, stock with no rub...
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Old 01-06-2004, 05:48 PM   #93
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I believe the nero's are pretty average width but what is helpful about their profile is that the shoulders a bit more rounded compared to the very squarish S03 or Azenis Sport. It gives the tire a bit more clearance as it arcs its way through its range of travel. Nice tire too, I'm probably going to try those after my T1-Ss are gone.
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Old 01-07-2004, 11:51 AM   #94
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1) STi 4-way adjustable struts/springs 'pink'

2) 17"x7.5" Rota SDR 48mm off set.

3) BFG g-force T/A/ KD's 225/45/17

4) Not yet but heading that direction (fenders are getting rolled tomorrow).

5) Yes, rubbing on hard corning (in the rear), but not str-8 line driving.

I was running 215's with no problems so I decided to go for the 225's, but the BFG's rub on the back tires. They may be a little bigger than other brands in the same size. Not sure what the spec. are exactly.

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Old 01-12-2004, 11:38 PM   #95
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Old 01-12-2004, 11:41 PM   #96
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Lowball,

No rubbing in the front and only rubbing on hard corners in the rear is that correct? Did you roll all four corners or just the rear? Finally how's it working out?
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No rubbing in the front and only rubbing on hard corners in the rear is that correct? Did you roll all four corners or just the rear? Finally how's it working out?
Before fender roll:
No rubbing on the front.

Rubbing on the rear, on freeway on/off ramps and hard street cornering (Think I just said hard corning before).

After fender roll:
Rolled the rears only. I took it to this place that does custom cars/work and they charge much more but the guy did an awesome job and he said if I needed more clearance then bring it back and he'd roll it up some more. He said that the lip on the inside of the fender is for structural rigidity and that he trys to give enough clearance but leave some rigidity by not rolling it all the way flat, and he even put back on the rubber pieces.

Working out fine right now. But haven't given it a true, true test yet. I didn't notice any rubbing on the on/off ramp on the way home, which is sweet, but need to take it on some really hard stuff to give it the full test. I'll take it out tomorrow night if the weather is good and give it a better test and let you know.

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Old 03-02-2004, 01:59 PM   #98
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Great post! Would i rub with 215/40/18 with prodrive springs on my wagon?
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Old 03-02-2004, 05:59 PM   #99
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also would i be able to get away with 225/40/18 tires? thanks
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Old 03-02-2004, 06:02 PM   #100
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oh yeah i more think...what offset would i need? thanks
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