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Old 03-15-2004, 02:37 PM   #101
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> 1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)

DMS 50s. Still fine tuning but they are sitting at about 240mm fender top to mid wheel front and about 250 in the back. (Goal is to get 255/260 F/R)

> 2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).

Rota Subzero 17X7.5 +48

>3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).

Falken Azenis 225/47-17

>4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?

Nope

>5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)

I tried to put max camber on the rear only to have the tire rub against the spring perch (rather nasty sound btw only made it down the driveway). Was running low on time and light so went safe with 0 to -0..2 camber. Plenty of clearance to the strut, but now rear fenders rub on anything more than a normal turn. There's room to move back the camber inside a bit and I'm thinking I could possibly get it to only rub on super tight turns. I think the fact that it's sitting a little too low still might also have something to do with it. Only have about 100 miles on it so far.
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Old 03-23-2004, 08:52 PM   #102
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Update: Got rear wheels to about -.9 degrees camber and zero toe. Also got the ride height up to about 257-260mm. It still rubs in the rear, but you really have to give it almost 10/10ths to get it to rub. Personally, I'm getting sick of the Azenis and thinking about Pilot Sport PS2s. Don't get me wrong they grip like mad but they are at about 2.5-3/32nds and they make more noise then the engine at idle. Plus the .3 inch less section width of the PS2 could mean the difference between rub and no rub.
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Old 03-24-2004, 12:14 AM   #103
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> 1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)

Prodrive springs on oem struts. 0.5" drop in rear, 1.5" drop in front. i measured b4 and after

> 2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).

2004 USDM STI BBS 17x7.5 +53 offset.

>3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).

Bridgestone Potenza RE-040 225/45-17

>4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?

Nope

>5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)

NOPE
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Old 04-15-2004, 10:37 AM   #104
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FYI.. 2004 wagon

> 1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)

Stock

> 2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).

Rota SDR 17x7.5 offset 48

>3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).

Kumho Ecsta 711 (225/45-17)

>4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?

Nope

>5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)

Yes... with three people in the back
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Old 08-17-2004, 09:11 PM   #105
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> 1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)
tein s springs

> 2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).
usdm sti bbs wheels 17x7.5 & +53

>3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).
Kumho Ecsta 711 (225/45-17)

>4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?
none at all

>5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)
no way these wheel are razor sharp looking, and i've tryed everything but nothing will make them rub.
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Old 08-18-2004, 01:31 AM   #106
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it seems like the high offset of the sti bbs rims allows for more clearence when running the 225's. Is this true and if so...why? I guess I don't understand how the offset actually works.

I want to run Toyo RA-1 on my wag but they only come in 235/45, 235/40 and 205/50 17's. And to use the different sizes you need different widths of rims 7.5 or 8. But if I step up to 18's then it seems like 225/40 18's will work (again with the right offset I guess).

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Old 08-18-2004, 01:37 AM   #107
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offset is the distance between the hub mounting surface and the centerline of the wheel. the hub mounting surface is always toward the outside (face) of the wheel. since the centerline never changes, higher offset wheels push the hub mounting surface outward, closer to the face of the wheel, effectively pushing the entire wheel toward the center of the car.
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Old 08-18-2004, 10:29 PM   #108
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alittle off the subject but when i plus sized my wheels(stock 16's to bbs 17's) i could totally tell. i could feel all the bumbs in the road. i really don't think the 18's are the way to go. i love the perfomance the 17's give me, and its an acceptable trade off, ride for performance. with the 18's you'll loose perf. and you'll loose ride quality, plus the tires are expensive. stick with the 17's just my 2 cents.
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Old 08-19-2004, 04:18 PM   #109
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> 1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)
tein h tech

> 2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).
piaa fs-rs 17x7, 52mm

>3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).
Nitto Neo-gen (225/45-17)

>4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?
none at all

>5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)
not even close
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Old 08-19-2004, 04:20 PM   #110
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alittle off the subject but when i plus sized my wheels(stock 16's to bbs 17's) i could totally tell. i could feel all the bumbs in the road. i really don't think the 18's are the way to go. i love the perfomance the 17's give me, and its an acceptable trade off, ride for performance. with the 18's you'll loose perf. and you'll loose ride quality, plus the tires are expensive. stick with the 17's just my 2 cents.
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Old 08-24-2004, 10:35 AM   #111
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I've got an 04 USDM STi suspension on my 02 wagon w/ 17 in Rota Attacks and RE070's--also Whiteline sways/endlinks and antilift. I get serious rear rubbing on the fender during all-out cornering--that becomes unbearable w/ heavy loads. Also, no body shop in my area wants to do fender rolling. Can I do this safely/cosmetically myself? Anyone got a link that provides equipment/directions?

Found a shop that will roll and touch-up paint for $145.

This eliminated all problems

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Old 08-24-2004, 02:04 PM   #112
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I've used Michelin Pilot Sport and Pilot Sport A/S in 225/45YR17 (OK, it's R17 Y), with no rubbing at all:

04 Wagon
Stock or Tein Coliover suspension (used both)
OZ Superleggera 17x7 offset 48 or Rota Torque 17x8 offset 48 wheels.
Stock calipers or Brembos

I've never rubbed, and I've RallyX'd the car.

-Sean
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Old 10-15-2004, 11:10 PM   #113
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1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)

STi V7 struts & springs

2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).

17" x 7.5" Rota Subzero, +48mm offset

3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).

225/45-17 Falken Azenis Sports

4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?

no

5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)

no


I will be adding V7 STi pink springs soon. I will update when I do.
EDIT:

I installed STi pink springs on my wagon and I now have rubbing in the rear when cornering hard. I will need to roll my rear fender lip.

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Old 10-23-2004, 01:05 AM   #114
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this is going to be my setup
04 usdm sti bbs 17x7.5 with 225/45/17 tires
04 Koni inserts with 04 Prodrive springs

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Old 10-23-2004, 05:21 AM   #115
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this is going to be my setup
04 usdm sti bbs 17x7.5 with 225/45/17 tires
Prodrive wagon springs
what do you guys think, sti pink or prodrive wagon springs?

i thought prodrive drop only 20mm, but someone measured 0.5" in rear, 1.5" in front?
sti bbs and 225-45-17, with prodrive is what i used to run. and the drop is actually 0.5 rear and 1.5 front. ive measured. yes i am a dork. i got prodrives cuz of the linear rate and even drop. its a good setup. now ive switched wheels to 6 spoke rs with 225-50-16, havent bought tires yet, choosing between FK451 and MX. hope this helps.

oh your setup will not rub one bit, you should totally do it.
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Old 10-23-2004, 08:32 AM   #116
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prodrive will drop .5 in the rear and 1.5 in the front? how is that an even drop and that's like 30mm then...... i guess i would go for pink sti springs...
anyone else can give me some advice?
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Old 10-25-2004, 11:05 AM   #117
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an even drop meaning the front and rear gaps between the fender and tire are even. since the wrx at stock is one inch higher in the front, the prodrives will keep the fender gaps even.
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Old 10-25-2004, 05:47 PM   #118
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I have an 04 wagon. I want to put the eibach prokit for the wagon, and rota torques 17 x 7.5 +48 and maybe the toyo proxis 4's (225/45/17). Do you think I will rub?
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Old 10-27-2004, 11:13 AM   #119
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Section widths of about 8.9 and higher are problematic. At least for +48 with a 7.5 width.
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Old 02-26-2005, 10:29 PM   #120
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update to an oldie-but-goodie thread:

> 1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)

Prodrive springs on Koni inserts. 0.5" drop in rear, 1+ drop in front - running Noltec camber/caster plates

> 2) The wheels you chose (size & offset). UPDATE:

BBS oem '04 STI 17x7.5 ET53

>3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17). UPDATE

Bridgestone RE070 in 225/45-17

>4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?

agressive street alignment: -2 degrees camber front/-1.5 rear (camber bolts), +5.3 caster (w/Noltecs and ALK), tiny amount of toe-in front/0 rear

>5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)

No - even when heavily loaded or at extreme angle of attack

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Old 03-31-2005, 07:58 PM   #121
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lowered on prodrives
rota 17x7.5 48et
hankook r-s2 225/45/17
no mods to body to prevent rubbing yet (rear camber is -1.5)

just got the tires today....went for quick test drive...no rubbing. I had one person sit on pass rear seat, one on the pass side of trunk area. and i stood on the doorsill with the door open and jumped up and down while keeping a hand in the fender area....Doesn't look like I'd have rubbing issues. I'm going to the auto-x sun and will find out then if it rubs

check this post of pics comparing 225 712's, 225 rs-2, and 215/45 lm-22
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=743928

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Old 04-11-2005, 06:54 PM   #122
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Thanks everyone, this is a great thread for someone like me who's currently in the market. I searched the thread for this and didn't seem to find it, but I could have missed it.

I plan to be autocrossing casually and I want a cheap summer tire on my Prodrive P7's (17x7 +52mm offset, the wheel I've pretty much decided on). I think I want Falken Azenis or Kuhmo 712's. I understand the Falkens are considered the widest, but it sounds like both of these would fit in 225/45, right?

I also may get Prodrive springs sometime soon after. That's what I'm hesitant about. Anyone have thoughts about the 225/45 Falkens with Prodrive springs?

If anyone knows where they sell these in a package deal, let me know
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Old 04-11-2005, 07:15 PM   #123
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Prodrive P7's... I also may get Prodrive springs sometime soon after...Anyone have thoughts about the 225/45 Falkens with Prodrive springs?
that combo will be no problem thanks to the wheel offset being high - and 17x7 to boot - and the Prodrive springs' drop being moderate.

the P7 is the best looking wheel on a wagon IMO, and is perhaps the strongest of all Subaru fitment wheels...
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Old 04-11-2005, 07:20 PM   #124
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which azenis are you talking about? if you're talking about the 215/615, yeh they are one of the widdest 225 and you might still get rubbing even with the +52...when loaded or hard cornering, i won't say for sure though cuz i have never ran that setup. The 712's will not rub, but they are also not even in the same ballpark as the azenis 215/615. If you want a cheap summer tire that most prob won't rub.....consider maybe the tires i just got ^
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Old 04-11-2005, 07:54 PM   #125
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1) The lowered suspension set-up you chose (actual drop if available)
Whiteline Sways & Springs (1.25" drop) Stock Struts
2) The wheels you chose (size & offset).
Rota Attacks 17x7.5 ET48
3) Your Tire brand and model (confirm that they are 225/45-17).
Falken Azenis 225/45/17, Kumho MX 235/45/17
4) Any modifications made to prevent rubbing?
Rolled Rear fenders
5) Are you rubbing??? (yes or no)
Not any more !
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