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Old 02-20-2003, 04:00 PM   #1
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Default A new option for us 4EAT WRX drivers.

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I was talking to the guys over at level 10 today.. I explained to them about easy street and the manual valve body transmissions that they are selling for 6 grand. After discussing with him for a while, here is what i found out:

Level 10 offers a full rebuild/valvebody/torque converter/clutchs/internals kit that they do in house for 3600$.
They gurantee the tranny for a year and gurantee it will withstand 800 HP. This is most likely the route i will be going, because 3600 + 1000 for a new 4eat will save me some money while able to get more HP to the ground! Let me know if anyone would like to start a group buy on this.. We can drop the price DRAMATICALLY if we all come together and do it at once.


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Old 02-20-2003, 06:02 PM   #2
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3600 bucks is a hell of a lot of money to be dropping into a tranny. Plus....why spend 1000 bucks on a new tranny (which seems pretty cheap for a 'new' one) Pickup a used one (if you can) from a junkyard.....Level 10 is completely going through it anyway.

Also...where is level 10 located?
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:31 PM   #3
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Rob, once again i've lost contact with you, please email me or PM me about whats going on now, this is really getting on my nerves, i've spent too much time and effort on this exhaust and i'm sick of being lied to.
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Old 02-20-2003, 08:12 PM   #4
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3600 bucks is a hell of a lot of money to be dropping into a tranny. Plus....why spend 1000 bucks on a new tranny (which seems pretty cheap for a 'new' one) Pickup a used one (if you can) from a junkyard.....Level 10 is completely going through it anyway.

Also...where is level 10 located?


Level 10 is in jersey.. Maybe you can Priv me and let me know a good place to find a junked auto tranny


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Old 02-21-2003, 08:51 AM   #5
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Level 10 is in jersey.. Maybe you can Priv me and let me know a good place to find a junked auto tranny


Rob
Thanks for the offer. I just don't have the time nor money right now.....not to mention a place to work on it.

Hopefully in 6 months or so I'll have a place that has a garage and some other means of transportation so I can do the work on the car at the pace I want to

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Old 02-21-2003, 01:06 PM   #6
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Hmm... damn bad timing for me bud, but interested nonetheless. the tranny is going to HAVE to last me this year. Next year maybe..

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Old 02-21-2003, 05:57 PM   #7
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$3600 sounds like a lot but in reality it is a good deal, if i had the money i would definitely do this (before i dump tons of money into the engine) .. it seems everyone is in the taxes are catching up to them days for a while .. its too easy to spend money on these cars...
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Old 02-23-2003, 01:25 PM   #8
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Yeah it is really a good good deal.. SEeming as though some other companies which will remain nameless. Are trying to say you need to spend 6500 on a new manual valve body tranny.
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Old 02-23-2003, 02:16 PM   #9
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$3600 is a fantastic deal and I dont even own an auto! For us 5MT owners getting a set of dog gears alone is about that price... Then factor in installation, etc.. Were talking some $4500+ for a complete dog box.
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Old 02-24-2003, 12:26 PM   #10
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Great news, Rob. I've been looking for such an option before I add more power and $3600 for an 800hp tranny is not bad.

Questions: would there be a big difference between Level 10 rebuilding your old one or buying a new one? Are you going to use the same TC (mine ) with a 4100rpm stall? When are you going to do it? If the timing is right, I might join you and perhaps we'll get a small discount.

And another thing: did you talk to them about the differentials? Since Rifts broke his, I wonder if that's the next weak-link.

Also, if you don't mind, PM me and maybe we can speak.

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Old 02-24-2003, 10:56 PM   #11
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hey padre!!!


Actually they totally re-do the TC so you have less power loss, but still have teh high stall, ill have to talk to you on the phone to explain it more in depth. but basically its a staged TC, where you have options in terms of lockup.



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Old 02-25-2003, 08:59 PM   #12
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3600 does seem a bit expensive for a complete rebuild.

Does anyone know what a new one costs from Subaru?
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Old 02-25-2003, 09:17 PM   #13
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3600 does seem a bit expensive for a complete rebuild.

Does anyone know what a new one costs from Subaru?
New stock tranny from Subaru that will handle about 300awhp...
- $1000.

Rebuilt tranny that will handle 800awhp...
- priceless (well, $3600, with a 1-year guarantee!).

Of course, the 800awhp figure is hypothetical at this point, though Level 10 does have a good reputation. I'm still worried about the next "weak links", namely the differentials. Anyone looked into strengthening and/or bullet-proofing the differentials?

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Old 02-25-2003, 09:46 PM   #14
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When Level10 (Pat Barret) speaks of breakage in HP terms, is he also referring to torque as well? Knowing how hp and torque goes hand and hand in Subarus, that would mean approx 800lbs/ft of torque as well.

I have to warn you guys. Level 10's labor ain't cheap.
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