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Old 02-20-2003, 06:49 PM   #1
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Here's my reason. I used Napster...and I switched over to Kazaa a while back (spyware....ugh...)... anyway...

My reason is this:

Why is it that we can buy a DVD of a movie that cost hundreds of millions to make for the same price we can buy a CD that costs far, far, far, far less to make?

Crooked music industry...

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Old 02-20-2003, 06:53 PM   #2
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I usually do it as a preview. If I like one song, I will go get the others to see if I like them. If I like several of them, I will go buy the CD.

However- I can't recall the last CD I actually bought and all the downloaded music gets deleted once I realize how much it sucks. The only "ill-gotten" music I have is stuff stream-ripped off of online radio stations and the quality is only so-so.
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Old 02-20-2003, 06:53 PM   #3
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Here's my reason. I used Napster...and I switched over to Kazaa a while back (spyware....ugh...)... anyway...

My reason is this:

Why is it that we can buy a DVD of a movie that cost hundreds of millions to make for the same price we can buy a CD that costs far, far, far, far less to make?

Crooked music industry...

Because in music, the CD is released first, then the live performances.

In movies, the performances are first, and the recordings are 2nd.
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Old 02-20-2003, 06:55 PM   #4
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it's free and I usually only like 1 or 2 songs from the cd
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Old 02-20-2003, 06:59 PM   #5
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That would be one reason I guess. Although that's more of a reason for the music industry to start selling CD's for like $7 again.

A reason I would have, not necessarily a good one, is to sample the music. At Amazon or CDnow (which is now amazon anyway) you can sample a couple of songs from a cd, and only the 20secs they decide is sample worthy. If I have an idea about the name of the song and the part I remember is not in that 20 secs, why would I go buy all 30 cd's, I basically just give up and wait to catch it on the radio again. Or go to the local music shop and see if they know, then sample the whole CD before buying.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:00 PM   #6
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Because I spent all my money on DVDs and have no more money left to buy a CD.

Chicks dig dudes that break the law.

I like to say Kazza.

To see how quick of a download speed I can get.

To support terrorism.

Gotta fill this 120 gig hard drive somehow.

To find the ultra sought after looped tracks.

All my friends do it.

The clown in my closet is staring at me with that strange look in his eyes.

MP3's are yummy

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Old 02-20-2003, 07:01 PM   #7
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If I like a whole CD, I will seriously consider buying it. However we all know how unlikely it is that you'll like the whole CD. I still buy CD's every once in a while, but they usually have to be something special. My last CD I bought was the Rolling Stones, 40 licks. Could I have downloaded the songs? Absolutely, but I never purchased any of their CD's, and this CD(s) is a classic. If I'm buying a Cd it more than likely will be a greatest hits collection. That way I know it's good.

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Old 02-20-2003, 07:02 PM   #8
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Gotta fill this 120 gig hard drive somehow
Thought that was what pRon was for.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:04 PM   #9
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Cuz its free.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:04 PM   #10
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Music match jukebox has a neat feature, in its now playing field it has an option to buy the CD of the current mp3. Neat.

The music industry either a) needs to get more realistic on their prices, or b) Setup a way to buy digital copies of singles for a few bucks a pop.

Mainly its 'cause I cant see spending $15-20 for 1 song. Sheesh.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:04 PM   #11
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poverty, coupled with interest in music
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:06 PM   #12
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Default Re: Re: Justify Your Reason For Downloading Music For Free...

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Because in music, the CD is released first, then the live performances.

In movies, the performances are first, and the recordings are 2nd.
Someone has to perform the music for there to be a CD though
Live recordings are much cheaper to produce then a studio album. The songs are written, almost no studio time (post production only) and most of the ground work as faras advertising is already done since the majority of the material has already been released previously.


I only download if it's something I can't buy, or as sct stated as a preview. And I buy vinyl anyways, sounds better than a download ever could.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:06 PM   #13
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To support terrorism.

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Old 02-20-2003, 07:09 PM   #14
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Because a lot of the music that I listen to is hard to find/out of print. and I can't afford $15 CDs

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Old 02-20-2003, 07:10 PM   #15
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poverty, coupled with interest in music
that and the price of cd's should not be the same exact price as when the first came out. who wants to pay 20 bucks for the same thing as 15 years ago???
rediculous. if there is a good artist that i want to support, then i will buy their album. but i started slacking off buying them though. i might buy 4 cds in a year. i used to buy around 20. oh well. i have 26GB of music on my computer and i'm damned proud of it.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:12 PM   #16
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Mainly its 'cause I cant see spending $15-20 for 1 song. Sheesh.
You need to shop around, dude. I haven't paid more than $12 for any CD in the last few months, and I like some pretty obscure stuff...
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:13 PM   #17
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The music business has been gouging the public for years. F em. It's my turn.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:16 PM   #18
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that and the price of cd's should not be the same exact price as when the first came out. who wants to pay 20 bucks for the same thing as 15 years ago??? rediculous.
Who is paying $20 for CD these days?

from the RIAA -Recording Industry Association of America

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Between 1983 and 1996, the average price of a CD fell by more than 40%. Over this same period of time, consumer prices (measured by the Consumer Price Index, or CPI) rose nearly 60%. If CD prices had risen at the same rate as consumer prices over this period, the average retail price of a CD in 1996 would have been $33.86 instead of $12.75. While the price of CDs has fallen, the amount of music provided on a typical CD has increased substantially, along with higher quality in terms of fidelity, durability, ease of use, and range of choices, including multi-media material, such as music videos, interviews and discographies. Content of this type often requires considerable production expense and adds a whole new dimension that goes beyond conventional audio.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:23 PM   #19
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My problem is that I love music. So naturally i would want to dl songs that i can get for free. I have many gigs of music, most illegal. However, I also don't buy CDs. I never did before mp3's and I never do now. For soemone that listens to as much variety of music that i do, i own about 20 CD's, all old. If for some reason, recording industry won, and all file sharing ended, and i lost all of my music, i would not run out and pay 17 bucks for a CD with one song on it i like. The simple solution? I would stop litning to music, except through the radio, which I do now sometimes anyway. So the way i see it, i am doing the companies a favor, at least by getting their music exposeur(sp?). Maybe they wouldn't see it that way, but it does help me define my tastes better, by being able to pick and choose exactly what i listen to. Then, if i ever do decide to give up my "life of crime" and buy CD's instead, i will know what i like better. Thats my excuse anyway.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:27 PM   #20
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Uhhh....

Ferg you and I never had a problem before, but...

I think you missed what I was saying

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Someone has to perform the music for there to be a CD though
Live recordings are much cheaper to produce then a studio album. The songs are written, almost no studio time (post production only) and most of the ground work as faras advertising is already done since the majority of the material has already been released previously.


I only download if it's something I can't buy, or as sct stated as a preview. And I buy vinyl anyways, sounds better than a download ever could.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:30 PM   #21
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Well... I grab a copy of a song, and I havn't taken anything from someone else... I've only reduced potential profits... and since I wouldn't have gone out and purchased that CD anyway, well, logically my actions have zero effect on the music industry.

Seriously, I own all the CDs that I would have purchased if there was no such thing as file sharing (namely all the NIN Halos, and a bunch of Orbital stuff).

There's no way I'm paying $18 for the crap RIAA passes off as music these days. And they blame "declining record sales" on file swapping... how about selling something worth buying!?

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Old 02-20-2003, 07:30 PM   #22
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This will work for the music industry in the long run.
The pay to listen music services will grab a large
foothold from many...then the government will
enforce laws banning online free trade of intellectual
property (as such). The industry will be able to cut
tons of jobs in the process, lowering costs, while
still making a decent profit (and knowing them, it will
be far more than they're making now). In the
interim, though, those who download "illegally"
are hurting big industry's profit margin AND getting
a little revenge in turn. Now, if only we could get
enough bandwidth for the "movies".

Oh Yeah...snap into my slim jim!

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Old 02-20-2003, 07:34 PM   #23
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Who is paying $20 for CD these days?

from the RIAA -Recording Industry Association of America

what the hell is that? EVERY cd store sells full albums for no less than $17.95. maybe its the area, but whatever. they suck. so i don't spend that much.
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:34 PM   #24
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Sorry Kins, I reread you post and you're right. I was thinking you were comparing production costs. The filming of a movie vs. the recording of an album. Obviously a film makes money off of the boxoffice, then the DVD sales/rentals whereas an album generally recoups off of sales first, then a supporting tour. And in some extreme cases three or four supporting tours.

For some reason I was rambling on about live albums...go figure.

My mistake
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