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Old 02-22-2003, 01:36 PM   #1
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Default People with black Impreza's

I have heard Subaru paint is ridiculously soft, scratching very easily. I'm thinking of getting black but i'm worried that it will look bad soon after I get it. How does it hold up in the long term?
I'm very particular about the condition of the paint.
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Old 02-22-2003, 01:54 PM   #2
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Old 02-22-2003, 02:00 PM   #3
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The paint is poor. You'll get scratches on any color I think.

As you know black is hard to keep clean but is beautiful right after waxing.

Just have to keep dusting it off afterwards with a California duster
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Old 02-22-2003, 02:06 PM   #4
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The paint sucks, just shy of one year my front end is torn up, and there's also a few sizeable rock chip along the side. Luckily you can't tell too much until you get up close, lighter colors dont show imperfections, and dust as much. I live in CA and have been in the snow twice, so its not like I have bad conditions to drive in. I know you can buy stongaurd(sp?) for the front of the car, might help i dont know much about stongaurd.

edit: sorry I dont have a black car, but still relevant.
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Old 02-22-2003, 02:12 PM   #5
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I have my Rex in blue, but i can tell you one thing i hate most about my car and it is that the factory paint job 5ucks
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Old 02-22-2003, 08:11 PM   #6
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Default Re: People with black Impreza's

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I have heard Subaru paint is ridiculously soft, scratching very easily. I'm thinking of getting black but i'm worried that it will look bad soon after I get it. How does it hold up in the long term?
I'm very particular about the condition of the paint.
Soft indeed! I got black and it's a great color, but after 7k miles...yep, the scrathes are appearing. And you'll want to use the BEST quality car-wash supplies you can find as the swirls appear if you so much as look at it wrong while washing.
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Old 02-22-2003, 08:11 PM   #7
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yep, if i had to do it all over again, i would get a white impreza.


...even though dark colored cars look sooo sexy at night =)
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:36 PM   #8
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Black is sweet but my car has 12k on her and almost through the 1st winter = my hood is stone chipped to hell and back along with my front bumper. I doubt I'll get it painted this year but wait untill next spring. Untill then its time for the DIY paint chip repair kit.

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Old 02-23-2003, 01:21 AM   #9
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I wax my car twice a year (before winter and spring) and it looks great, but I did get it detailed once at a shop near my house and it really looked amazing, very deep and no swirls. Ive had my car for more than two years in montreal winters (lots of salt/stones on the roads) and to be honest, i have few clear coat chips (but what car dosent?), but I dont notice them, nor have I had a comment from someone on it. Black is the best color in my opinion, it looks so nice and its worth the extra washes it needs.
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Old 02-23-2003, 06:12 AM   #10
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I'll be buying my 04 rex in July and I'm going with black. It'll be the new Java Pearl black that's available but I have no idea what it looks like...besides black.

I agree, black is the best color for me. It's a classy color and great for stealth mode.

Another possible option is to use a clear-bra. Gargantua uses one and he says it's barely noticeable. I haven't seen a pic of one but it may be worth the hassle of ending up with a chipped front end. I'm going to look into it when I buy my rex.

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Old 02-23-2003, 07:54 AM   #11
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I agree, black is the best color for me. It's a classy color and great for stealth mode.
that's why i chose my black one! it was black or white...
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Old 02-23-2003, 09:09 AM   #12
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Despite living in a rough and cold terrain I have not had much of a problem with the black paint. The main threat comes from the lack of side mouldings. That is where all my dings and scratches have come from. And oh yes. My second windshield has another hole. I use a product called Durogaurd 505 for car washing. I have not used wax in over a year and do not miss it one bit. This is an excellent product for those of us who cannot afford to be waxing our car every other day.
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Old 02-23-2003, 10:45 AM   #13
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I can tell you, after years with a black car, I'llnever buy another black Subaru. I have a 1997 Impreza and it looks like it's been through a battle even after washing and waxing it, but it looks good wet and at night

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Old 02-23-2003, 11:16 AM   #14
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Well, considering its not really black....

it changes all kinda crazy colors, sometimes even brown

anyway, yeah the paint sucks. Ive had mine for a year today and its chipped in the front and swirled.

nothin a little meguires prof. series wont fix though
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Old 02-23-2003, 11:39 AM   #15
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So is it the black paint that sucks or simply all of Subaru's paint line-up? If they all end up swirling, then does it matter what color you choose?

Ballpark figure, what would a new paint job cost down the road (pardon the pun)?
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Old 02-23-2003, 02:16 PM   #16
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Black IS the best color...

I've found that most swirls on black paint are actually caused by washing and ESPECIALLY drying the car the wrong way. You can keep a black car swirl free, but it takes quite a bit of work and maintainance.

Personally, I use these steps about 4x a year:

Wash with Meguiars Gold Class
Clay with mothers/clay magic (doesn't matter what kind really)
3M Swirl Mark Remover for dark cars
Meguiars #9 Show Car Glaze
Pure carnuba wax of my choice
Mothers Showtime Quick detailer
WheelWax (really good stuff)

This type of detail usually takes me a whole afternoon. When I do my normal detail (1x a month), I use:

Wash with Meguiars Gold Class
Zymol Cleaner Wax

This regimen has kept my swirling down to a minimum. The BIGGEST change in them amount of swirling I have seen has been by using the Perfect Drying Technique ( www.autopia.org ) and using microfiber towels exclusively. Also, using a random orbit polisher for the 3M SMR and the #9 has yielded excellent results.

Whatever you do, DON'T take your car through the car wash. I cringe every time I see a dark car going through those torture chambers...

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Old 02-24-2003, 08:58 AM   #17
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So is it safe to assume that the new Java Black Pearl color that's availalbe on the 04 WRX will be just as crappy as the current batch of colors? I suppose I could go for the San Remo Red but I have no idea just how red it is.
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Old 02-24-2003, 02:36 PM   #18
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I totally agree with everyone else. I have a black RS and my front bumper is scratched to hell on both sides. Alas I thinking of taking a sharpie to it for now.
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Old 02-24-2003, 02:54 PM   #19
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i wonder what a flat black WRX looks like. That would look mean I'm guessing.
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Old 02-24-2003, 03:12 PM   #20
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Black IS the best color...
I've found that most swirls on black paint are actually caused by washing and ESPECIALLY drying the car the wrong way. You can keep a black car swirl free, but it takes quite a bit of work and maintainance.

....Whatever you do, DON'T take your car through the car wash. I cringe every time I see a dark car going through those torture chambers...

--Bob
I completely agree. Black is a high maintenance color that you'll regret if you don't have the time/patience to take care of. I've had mine for 6 months and only have 3 tiny chips on the hood (all 3 happened at once from a truck). Although I'm very anal about who and what I drive behind, I know chips are inevitable. Bob's points are valid. Just keep in mind.....black isn't for everybody.

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Old 02-24-2003, 03:45 PM   #21
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Here is my Black Beauty


At night the car is really almost a navy blue color. But none the less it looks the best IMHO.
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Old 02-24-2003, 08:41 PM   #22
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I had a lot of problems with my black 02 WRX.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=273582
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Old 02-24-2003, 08:56 PM   #23
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I had a lot of problems with my black 02 WRX.
Nice to know your story has a happy ending given the hassle you went through

I've never thought about watching the salesman take off the white plastic protective coating from the hood/roof. I'll look into this when I buy my '04 WRX.

Bottom line is that this thread is giving me doubts about buying my black rex. Maybe the new Java Black Pearl color that will be available is better but it may be time to consider other color possibilities.
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Old 02-24-2003, 10:15 PM   #24
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Like I said before, any black car (esp. Subaru) is a LOT of work. If you are an obsessed detailer like myself, then this "work" is actually a lot of fun. <---there are other crazies like me as well.

Don't get a black car if you are not prepared for the upkeep. You will be very unhappy with the results, methinks.

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Old 02-25-2003, 12:14 PM   #25
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I had a lot of problems with my black 02 WRX.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=273582
....but it appeared to be the result of a damaged finish, not an imperfection of the factory paint job. Don't get me wrong. The paint is not the best I've seen but it's still looks decent for a $23,000 car.

One thing to consider is not letting the dealer spray their "clear coat protectant" (or whatever they want to call it) on your finish. If they don't prepare the vehicle properly before application, all they will do is seal in the imperfections/swirls/scratches. You'll need to wax your car on a regular basis, but the results are far better as a result (esp. on Black). Bob summed it up really well in his last post:

Quote:
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Like I said before, any black car (esp. Subaru) is a LOT of work. If you are an obsessed detailer like myself, then this "work" is actually a lot of fun. <---there are other crazies like me as well.
Don't get a black car if you are not prepared for the upkeep. You will be very unhappy with the results, methinks.
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