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Old 02-24-2003, 03:02 PM   #1
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Cool Somebody help me...going nuts here trying to make a decision

I currently own a turboed MP3. Love the handeling on my ride but would love to know what it would feel like on a AWD vehicle with a stiff suspension. The dilemma I'm in is, two giants are coming out (evo&STi). Both cars are monster performers except, the EVO we are getting is kind of watered down(power/gizmos). The STi from what I have read so far is on par with forum members expectations. But what will be a deciding factor to me is how stiff is the suspension on the STi and how much better does it grip compared to it's understeering WRX version. Also how does the car feel, as in steering response and overall control. Hmmm from my last sentence looks like I have already made a subconcious choice here
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Old 02-24-2003, 04:37 PM   #2
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Old 02-24-2003, 05:12 PM   #3
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just because a car comes from the factory w/ springs shocks and swaybars doesn't mean you have to keep them. There are many companies who would love for you to buy their suspension parts.
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Old 02-24-2003, 05:21 PM   #4
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The 04 STI will probably be a bit stiffer. If I had to guess. Somewhere between the wrx and the current "SPT" set-up. Probably closer to the SPT side of things seeing how that is pretty much the MY02-03 STI set-up overseas. I know there are some revisions in caster and possibly other settings on the new car, so the fore mentioned is pretty much speculation. As far as the understeer goes, its hard to tell. I'm pretty sure Subaru dials in some understeer from the factory for safety sake. Its fairly easy to tune out with tire pressure adjustments(usually a bit higher,and equalizing the front and rear) and a performance minded alignment.
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Old 02-25-2003, 10:11 AM   #5
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Thanks fellas.....I appreciate the response and the help.' And something that is rarely mentioned is the fact that inline-4 motors can make more power than the flat-four's that Subaru uses.' So based on Paul Hansens research in his article...we can't really work more boost into 04 Subeys flat four setup, being that it's a 2.5litre?? I don't get it....most of these cars don't come with 1000hp output from the factory. If anything....they are tuned to that potential via aftermarket. Subeys have seen the 400-600hp marker with (boosted) tuning with a flat four. I think Subaru has spent plenty of R&D in making this car reliable and fun with its current STi release. I'm not saying that it is bullet proof but, pretty close from what I have read and seen.
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Old 02-25-2003, 03:13 PM   #6
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hA! I'm really a newbie....what's R&D?
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Old 02-25-2003, 03:30 PM   #7
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"the fact that inline-4 motors can make more power than the flat-four's that Subaru uses"

Back that up. First Ive ever heard of it.

In contrast I know of research that was done using a horizontall apposed engine that also didnt use a crankshaft, but instead a box that slid up and down. They chose horizontal opposition for its better balance and power attributes.
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Old 02-25-2003, 03:31 PM   #8
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"the fact that inline-4 motors can make more power than the flat-four's that Subaru uses"

Back that up. First Ive ever heard of it.

In contrast I know of research that was done using a horizontall apposed engine that also didnt use a crankshaft, but instead a box that slid up and down. They chose horizontal opposition for its better balance and power attributes.


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Old 02-25-2003, 03:52 PM   #9
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Old 02-25-2003, 04:10 PM   #10
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I got that quote from the suggested sites given earlier in the thread....http://www.apexjapan.com/editorial/evo_counter.html
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