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Old 02-24-2003, 03:28 PM   #1
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Talking MrJosh's lightened crank pulley..and a "new" way to install.

Ok, the pulley looks great and feels great. That is a good thing, considering it was $95 shipped, when i bought it. I will post pics later on, but let me just reveal some insight on what me and Burnout found out, while attempting to break loose the bolt holding the stock pulley on. IF, and i mean IF, you own an my00 RS, then i know that this will work, but, since i nor Burnout have tried this on any other car, I am and will not state that the outcome will be as pleasant. So here is how it works. BTW, I am not responsible for anything YOU do to your car.. nor is Burnout.. but you are.

First, you need an 18" breaker bar, no shorter.. and maybe only and inch or two longer, if that's all ya got, but no shorter. take the left (passenger side) fan out, done so by removing the two bolts at the top, and disconnecting the wire at the bottom. Pull it out, which may be a pain, but it comes out. Now, the only difference in this method is that part, and this one.. all other methods of belt removing and putting the new pulley in are still the same..

All you have to do, IF you have an my00 rs, is put the breaker bar in there with the handle pointing towards the passenger side, pointing downwards, below the "platform" where the ABS sits. You will notice that hey, an amazingly convienient spot to rest the breaker bar is right there! What is great, is that the engine turns clockwise (when you are facing it from the front of the car) and when the engine turns, it will pull the bar up, but the bar will not go due to it resting in the spot its at. We wrapped a towel around the end of the bar to help keep things steady and snug. Now, pull up on the bar, real tight like and then go put your car in nuetral, press the clutch, and turn the key .... but, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT let the engine actually turn over.. just flip the key on and off, do it just once and get out to check things.. if the breaker bar is still in really good, and it should be, then go flip it twice, NOT turning it over, just on and off. Roll on out there, and take the pulley off.
Now granted my description might stink, but when i get the pics up, of the area I am talking about, you'll see what I mean. The whole key to all of this, is not letting the engine turn over. You do that.. and well, just dont do that.

Now on to the performance. We got in.. drove up to the stop sign, i dumped the clutch, rear wheel spin, and redline, second, and a slight chirp, redline.. letoff. Ok, I was told by a Subaru mechanic, also a VW mechanic, that pulleys do nothing at all.. um.. no.. the revs are much quicker, up shifting under WOT is more invigorating. 1st and 2nd gear is where i notice all the gains.. mainly. There is not hardly any lag at all off the line.. it just goes. Like someone said before, it's just a more driveable car. Kudos to Mrjosh for making a more affordable pulley, that has all the benefits of a much more expensive pulley!

pics coming in a couple hours...
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Old 03-04-2003, 05:14 PM   #2
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Old 03-06-2003, 01:51 AM   #3
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This sucks.. I tried doing that, but 18" breaker is too short for a 02 RS
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Old 03-06-2003, 02:04 AM   #4
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aye, i didnt know if it would work on any other model.. sorry!
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Old 03-08-2003, 02:57 PM   #5
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I put one on too, nice little gains
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Old 03-08-2003, 03:57 PM   #6
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does your car break loose easily on take off? It might be my new clutch.. dunno, it doesnt do it that bad, hindering take off, but it spins more than it used to.
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Old 03-08-2003, 04:22 PM   #7
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I just installed my Mr. Josh's pulley and I had to file out some of the keyway to get it on since it wasnt deep enough. It took two of us to break loose the bolt too. I didnt really notice any power gains though. Maybe a little in first but that is soo hard to measure since 1st gear pulls vary soo much.
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if your car is a manual, go out and hold it in second gear at about 3800 rpms and floor it, you should notice alot better throttle response.

plus, one reason alot of people dont notice anything, is because it increases gains across all the power band basically... so there for it may not pull harder in any specific rpm range, but your turbo should spool faster, somewhat.
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Old 03-13-2003, 11:27 AM   #9
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Thumbs up Mr. Josh's magic pulley...

I bought one a while back and was leery of the quality...until I received it. This thing is machined beautifully. I had an Unorthodox Racing on my SR20 and this is just as well made at 2/3 the price.
To loosen the nut I also used a BFBB and a 6 point socket. Put the car in 1st gear, parking brake on and heave-ho!
The funny part (now) is that after I loosened the belts, took the nut off and couldn't get the pulley to budge I spent 15 minutes trying to get a wheel puller on without having to remove the radiator. When I decided that I'd try one more time the pulley just fell off while I was trying to get the puller on.
So, no puller required and total install time (excluding time wasted with the puller ) was about 15 minutes.

Gains? This ain't no NOS kit so don't expect anything eyeball flattening BUT...it complements other mods that you have or will make and as mentioned earlier, the gains are uniform across the powerband.

I'm surprised the naysayers haven't posted how this will cause your engine to explode in a firey, unbalanced, vibrating heap
but after four months I've had no problems at all. And my SR20 had the UR pulley for four years with, you guessed it, no problems.
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I've sold many of them and no customer has had anything bad to say about them.

It's hard to see a lot of gains on a car with Forced induction (most noticable with A/C on in the summer), but the gains are quite noticable on the N/A cars.

Thanks - Jon
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Why does everyone think a crank pulley is a hard to do job
I did mine in the parking lot at work in all of 5 min. And it was raining. I just had a buddy stand on the brake with the car in 5th gear.
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Would these pulleys fit on a 98 Forester? Just curious. If so, how do I get a set?
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I am fairly sure they will.. lemme look for the email addy and ill post it. I dont know if he has anymore though.. he should, but i dont know.

oh, the only reason i can think that mine was so hard to get off, is that the engine would keep turning, and we figured the clutch just wasnt strong enough.. also, i have over 50k on her, and i would assume the bolt had kinda set in.
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