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Old 02-25-2003, 12:23 PM   #1
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Default slight build-up question (2.2+ 2.5 parts)

i've been curious about this for awhile, and am getting anxious...I have a 2.2 and was wondering what would be the effect of replacing the 2.2 intake manifold with the intake manifold from a 2.5? I would guess all i'd need is the gasket from the 2.2 and the 2.5 manifold...Would I need to replace anything else, and would this make for some decent gains in the 2.2? There's a suby junkyard near me with a whole bunch of them just lying there in the trunk of a crashed wagon...so i can get one relatively cheap. If anyone has any suggestions (no crazy build-up ideas) that's cool, I want to start playing with the engine a little more. It's at 107k right now and i was planning on replacing it when it goes...thanks

(not planning on doing internals with this engine...)
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Old 02-25-2003, 12:25 PM   #2
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I don't know much about the 2.2L, but does it have the same manifold as the 2.5L? I would assume so.

But assuming the EJ25 manifold is bigger, I would say that it probably won't be worth the money to buy one.

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Old 02-25-2003, 12:55 PM   #3
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Spend your money elsewhere. The throttle body and intake manifold should be the last thing you worry about. Without big cams and a better flowing head you won't notice a difference.
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Old 02-25-2003, 01:49 PM   #4
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ok, thanks I appreciate the advise. Any suggestions on what I could do to give the engine a little more "pep" ? It's already got headers, hi-flo cat, 2.5" catback, and K&N panel filter. I'm thinking fairly simple things that'll give me some "learning" time with my engine. I've been reading a lot on it, but reading and doing are two completely different things...thanks again!
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Old 02-25-2003, 01:55 PM   #5
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Lightweight pulleys, lightweight flywheel, cams, headwork, some type of engine management and you'll have a screamer.
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Old 02-25-2003, 02:09 PM   #6
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I've heard that if you swap out your rockers for roller rockers out of a '96 Outback Sport 2.2L, you can see a 15hp gain.

I've asked numerous questions on this topic, but it seems there is a lack of info.
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Old 02-25-2003, 03:24 PM   #7
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BOY has the right idea. Eventually, when the time is right, you should do the cams and heads, but if oyu have some extra money, put in some new springs and retainers so you are able to raise the redine with a Unichip or whatever you choose. That will be lots of fun I can tell you! maybe work on finding a intake that works for your car and is worth the money, panel filters do only so much. Good luck.
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Old 02-25-2003, 03:26 PM   #8
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thanks BOY, I was contemplating lightweight pulleys and flywheel/upgrading clutch. I was looking into a chip and the grounding mod as well.

maciek- I'll see what I can find out about that, sounds interesting (to me anyway). What was the hp in the '96 Outback Sport?

thanks everyone!
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Old 02-25-2003, 05:09 PM   #9
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I'm not sure what the hp of the '96 OBS was...but i would imagine it would be around 150hp.

There has to somebody that has done the roller rocker mod.

From the sound of it, it should be one of the best hp mods next to the cams.
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Old 02-25-2003, 07:25 PM   #10
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can you tell me the name of the junkyard? I need a new evaporative emissions control solenoid and the dealer wants like $200 for a new one. It is bolted to the bottom of the intake manifold.

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Old 02-25-2003, 07:29 PM   #11
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Two issues/comments:

I'm not sure how the setup was on the early 2.5's, but I know on the 99 2.5's the IAC valve is built into the TB assembly and such.

The 2.2's have a port on the intake. This difference will cause some headaches......also....you'd need to look at EGR issues, whether the 2.5 has one....I'm pretty sure the 96 2.2 has an EGR valve. The 90-94 EJ22's did not have them....

Other comment is on the roller rockers.....They are a definitely plus. A buddy is using them on his EJ22T build up.

I'm pretty sure the rocker ratios and everything is exactly the same, so it should be a pretty simple swap. If you have solid lifters you'd have to adjust them.....but that's it....
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Old 02-25-2003, 07:57 PM   #12
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I'd like to know where this yard is at too. I need an intake manifold for a DOHC 2.5 (inline mounting bolts instead of staggered). Care to shoot me a number or do a little shopping for me?

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Old 02-26-2003, 10:07 AM   #13
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can you tell me the name of the junkyard? I need a new evaporative emissions control solenoid and the dealer wants like $200 for a new one. It is bolted to the bottom of the intake manifold.

J

The Subaru junkyard is called F & S Auto (salvage) they are located in Roxbury, CT. They have two yards, i've only been to the smaller one, but they had like 12 SVX's, 2 WRX sedan, almost 100 L's (wagons,coupes,sedans). They had a whole mess of real old school subies as well. I'll have to get back to you on the link and phone number. Supposedly the bigger yard has a bunch of wrecked rex's...The guys there are real cool and friendly and more than happy to help/ give you a discount if you buy items on a "package" basis (lots of parts at once). They have a few EJ22T's and other engines/trannies in storage for cheap too.

*There's another place that goes by F and S Auto Wrecking in Garden City, NY ---> that is not the yard i'm talking about.
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Old 02-26-2003, 10:14 AM   #14
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There is also Octagon Spares in PA.
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Old 02-26-2003, 11:44 AM   #15
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Does anyone know of one in the Kansas City area?

Me want to tinker...
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Old 02-27-2003, 12:26 PM   #16
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Default Subaru Junk yards

http://www.fsautoparts.com/

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67 Garnet Rd. Roxbury, CT
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and in PA. (posted by BOY)
http://www.octagonauto.com

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