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Old 02-27-2003, 10:23 PM   #1
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Default Whiteline heavy duty rear swaybar links - KLC26

G'day

We've just finalised design and preoduction spec for the new heavy duty rear alloy swaybar links for early Legacy, Impreza WRX and STi (finally!!).

New part number KLC26 is a kit of 2 extruded alloy links with low compliance engineered grade polyurethane bushes. These have been specifically designed for serious use including oversize swaybars while still remaining relatively quiet from an NVH point of view.

To some degree it is easy to make a direct connection between swaybar and chassis but that must be at the expense of NVH and drivability. Unlike links with spherical (metal) bearings or some bush designs, the Whiteline links are specifically designed to pivot through extreme angles WHILE staying relatively quiet when driven on the road. They are very direct in a pire vertical load but allow a lot of lateral compliance.

Our links are also the normal stock length which is very important for correct swaybar operation. Some shorter designs we have seen actually permit the swaybar to invert the links on full extension which is potentially catastrophic unless the suspension has been travel limited.

The bad new is that we are a few weeks away from delivery, the good news is that you can pre-order now including an "upgrade" option for current Whiteline customers. The full retail price for KLC26 is A$131.81 (approx US$79 plus freight) but customers with our other steel type links (part number KLC19) can upgrade to the new product for only A$79 (approx US$48 plus freight). As a Whiteline supporter, we want to reward you for your support and give you a chance to upgrade to something more serious before the product hits the market proper.

This special offer is only available to Whiteline customers direct through Whiteline or through its participating dealers. To qualify, you need to provide proof of purchase of part number KLC19 (steel link version) to Whiteline or participating dealers. (Dealers need to pass on same to Whiteline). You can then order KLC26UG for the special upgrade price of US$48 (approx plus freight). If using our WebStore, simply scan your original invoice or reciept and email to us or alternatively you can fax us on 61-2-9820 2500 with a copy.

I wish we could show you a picture of the finished part but unfortunately we're still getiing pictures done. What we can tell you is that the alloy will be gold anodised with yellow poly bushes at each end, we like it.

Thanks for all your support to date and we look forward to announcing stock availability very soon. In the meantime, we suggest you order ahead if you want to make sure you're one of the first.

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Old 02-28-2003, 09:32 AM   #2
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Sounds good! Awaiting pics!
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Old 02-28-2003, 10:15 AM   #3
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Default Re: Whiteline heavy duty rear swaybar links - KLC26

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G'day

This special offer is only available to Whiteline customers direct through Whiteline or through its participating dealers. To qualify, you need to provide proof of purchase of part number KLC19 (steel link version) to Whiteline or participating dealers. (Dealers need to pass on same to Whiteline). You can then order KLC26UG for the special upgrade price of US$48 (approx plus freight). If using our WebStore, simply scan your original invoice or reciept and email to us or alternatively you can fax us on 61-2-9820 2500 with a copy.

I'm not sure about the rest of you folks, but the rear endlinks were one of my first mods almost two years ago. I think I'd be hard-pressed to find this receipt....if I ever got one to begin with.

I wish there were some other way to prove that we were existing customers. Short of taking pictures under our cars.

Does anyone have another suggestion to proving they are currently using the steel endlinks?

mike (hopefully upgrading to KLC26)
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Old 02-28-2003, 04:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: Re: Whiteline heavy duty rear swaybar links - KLC26

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Does anyone have another suggestion to proving they are currently using the steel endlinks?
Perhaps a massive endlink trade-in?

This is great news BTW, and competitive pricing!

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Old 02-28-2003, 06:42 PM   #5
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So... does owning a Whiteline front strut tower brace and a rear adjustable swaybar count me as a customer?

Pleeeeeease?



Awaiting pictures as well. I think most of us know which droplinks you're comparing these with, and I'm intrigued by your argument about shorter ones causing problems. Hmm.

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Old 02-28-2003, 06:58 PM   #6
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I'm interested in this too!

I may even have my receipt sitting around too.

Please keep us informed on the arrival date of these endlinks.

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Old 03-01-2003, 02:05 AM   #7
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Waiting anxiously
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Old 03-01-2003, 04:50 AM   #8
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Found my receipt! hehe
I don't see an 'upgrade' option for klc26 in the webstore though?
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Old 03-03-2003, 12:39 AM   #9
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G'day everyone,

First let me say that we're delighted with the positive response, thanks for your support.

newscooby, I take your point re reciepts and proof of purchase but we have to find some sort of compromise to be fair to everyone. I guess we're a little worried about someone getiing a set for half price if they've never purchased our other link set.

Suggest its easier to sort this out on a case by case basis if you havent got the proof of puchase. Just contact us direct off list if you havent got the info and we'll try to work something out together.

bemani, unfortunately the WebStore link to that part number was broken (forgive the bad pun!), its now fixed.

Siper2, we try to avoid talking about competitors specifically and we definitely do not want to imply that someone elses product is substandard. The point re link length is particularly important for adjustable aftermarket swaybars that use a shorter effective arm length. We have a sample link from another manufacturer that is 20 mm shorter between the hole centres which is the potential problem unless other steps have been taken to limit the suspension extension travel. We'll try to take a picture and post to explain what we mean.

As for a product picture, I'll endeavour to post something within the week.

Best regards

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Old 03-03-2003, 02:30 PM   #10
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dam, that sucks, i just ordered my front and rear end link. that doesn't make sense for me to buy another one without using these first.
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Old 03-03-2003, 06:00 PM   #11
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unfortunately the WebStore link to that part number was broken
I thought this new design was to PREVENT broken links?
Should we take that as a bad sign?
Sorry man lol I could NOT resist

I dont think I have my reciept, could I just email you a picture of my face under my car next to the links?(seriously)
If we dont have a receipt are we just screwed? I hope not, as that looks like a MUCH more solid design.
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Old 03-03-2003, 10:01 PM   #12
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Jim,

Don't worry about naming names, I'm not looking for you to do that, I just know which parts you're talking about. *shrug* There aren't a lot of offerings on the board insofar as solid rear endlinks. A few, but not many.

I'm just interested in tracking this thread and reading a few reviews. Definitely looks like a better design than your old ones.

Hey, um... did you guys ever come to any conclusion over what happened with the GC rear adjustable swaybar issue? The clunking occurrence. I spoke with someone at your company a while back about it, I think it's an issue that's been buried in the passing of time but I've still got the problem and I'd like to solve it rather than buy another bar.

Anyway, please Email me if you get the chance. Use the Email link on my profile list.

-Chris
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Old 03-04-2003, 01:23 AM   #13
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G'day everyone,

Davenow, I know I set myself up with the "broken link" pun and no, it shouldnt be taken as a bad sign :-)

Seriously though, I want to make sure that people understand that this new kit is offered in addition to our existing steel KLC19 part number, not as a replacement.

The original KLC19 and KLC20 steel version kist were released over 4 years ago as a market first in repsonse to customer demand for less compliant links. With out knowing market potential etc, they were designed to a price point and retailed for around US$43 equivalent.

With the dramatic increase in demand for WRX performance products and customer expectations with oversize bars, many other brands entered the market with heavier and much more expensive solutions. Also, some difficulties with materials lead to some failures of the steel links when faced with serious use hence our decision to offer a heavier alternative. However, the price is quite a bit higher at approx US$79 or nealy double the price of the steel version.

As mentioned earlier, if you can't find a receipt, contact us off list directly and we'll work something out.

Siper2, have a look at the following thread "NASIOC Forums > NASIOC Other Subarus > Legacy Forum > Sway bar end link disconnected" (couldnt get a direct link to paste) and you'll see a picture of various links inclduing the shorter one we have seen.

I'm not sure about the swaybar noise issue but Bob our swaybar expert is the man you need to talk to. Can I suggest you contact him directly on bob@whiteline.com.au and he'll take care of it for you and make sure its fixed.

All the best

Jim
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PS. I didnt actually mean to attach that last picture as its a screen shot from our CAD program. It was sent to me by the engineers but it wasnt really meant for posting..... oops. Anyway, it looks a lot better than that.
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Old 03-17-2003, 10:01 PM   #14
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Hi everyone,

Finally have a picture of the new KLC26 links.

Hope you like them

Best regards

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Old 03-17-2003, 10:37 PM   #15
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Woohoo! Looks great. I like the smooth, rounded edges, no stress risers there. I am, however concerned with the apparent "thinness" around the bushing. Are they that thin all the way through or does the link thicken up in the middle somewhere?
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Old 03-17-2003, 10:53 PM   #16
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Hi Arnie,

Its a little hard to tell from the picture but the bushes are tapered inward. Hence your seeing the outer only, the centre section is significantly thicker.

This design allows for maximum articulation while working.

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Old 03-17-2003, 11:10 PM   #17
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Are these shipping yet Jim? I am in need of some new links and am a former whiteline link owner.
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Old 03-17-2003, 11:38 PM   #18
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The new links are just starting to come out of production now and will be shipping shortly.

We are actually taking orders now for distributors and direct retail customers via our exclusive upgrade offer. You can read more about it at the beginning of this thread.

Let me know if we can help further.

Cheers
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Old 03-18-2003, 01:09 AM   #19
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Good to hear about the material in the middle. I really like the idea of allowing some articulation of the bushing upon force from the swaybar. I've always had concerns about bushing designs that have no movement whatsover. It seems like these have to apply stresses elsewhere that might not be designed to handle it.

These really do look great.
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Old 03-19-2003, 05:30 PM   #20
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Looks good, Jim. Job well done by the Aussies!

Can't wait to read some reviews, particularly in comparison with Cusco/Kartboy/Rev-Lab/etc. pieces. Have to make my decision which set to buy, when I have the money.

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G'day Colin,

Thanks for the vote of confidence

I wouldnt like to suggest that our links are far superiori to other brands but we have had the luxury of seeing other designs come first. This helped us identify some issues that were of concern to us and we worked out out design accordingly.

I think there would be very little difference in meaningfull performance between the various designs in a static direct load test. That is, applying same vertical load to each link and measuring total defelction would yield a negligible difference. However, its the result "in application" that we think we have some better features than some other designs. The degreee of articulation as the suspension works thru its arc, the standard length not resulting in potential bar inversion etc.

Anyway, we'll let people be the judge as you say. in the meantime, I managed to get a quick picture of the KLC26 version on P-Rex II before it was driven off the hoist and through the mud etc

Best regards

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Old 03-19-2003, 08:37 PM   #22
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A little off topic but I have been waiting for thr 2002 wrx sedan coilovers to complete my whiteline suspention fetish . Any way great job on the suspention.
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Old 03-19-2003, 09:36 PM   #23
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mrtrex,

I'm really pleased to hear about your support, it's our job very satisfying.

If you look closely at the previous picture you can just make out the bottom of the latest prototype Whiteline coil-overs fitted for long term test on P-Rex II

You can get a better view in this picture.

Best

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Hi Jim,

What will be your policy be for those of us who can't find their original receipt? I still have the cardboard part of the original package as well as the instructions.

These look great, please let me know if I can take advantage of your upgrade price without my original receipt.

Thanks!

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Old 03-19-2003, 10:49 PM   #25
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G'day Edvig

Understand your problem, I'll just quote what we mentioned in an earlier reply;

"newscooby, I take your point re reciepts and proof of purchase but we have to find some sort of compromise to be fair to everyone. I guess we're a little worried about someone getiing a set for half price if they've never purchased our other link set.

Suggest its easier to sort this out on a case by case basis if you havent got the proof of puchase. Just contact us direct off list if you havent got the info and we'll try to work something out together."

We 've already had some people contact us about this and we've sorted them out satisfactorily, I think .

Cheers
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