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Old 05-04-2001, 03:45 PM   #1
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Question Anyone have opinions about the WRX suspension upgrade from the factory?

I'm looking to get a WRX wagon next month and was wondering if i should go for the suspension upgrade or have it down afterward. Any opinions?

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Old 05-04-2001, 05:13 PM   #2
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For what that suspension upgrade costs, you could get a set of coilovers, is what I think. I'll be swapping my DMS Golds over to my WRX wagon, my own self...

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Old 05-04-2001, 07:25 PM   #3
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gtguy - you are no longer thinking about getting the 50s? Let us know how you like the Golds on the wagon. I have one coming in about a month and the roads in N NJ are a mess. Based on your previous posts about the Golds on Chicago tarmac, they sound just about perfect.
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Old 05-04-2001, 08:37 PM   #4
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I've been convinced that the 50s are overkill for my needs, so yes, I'm sticking with the Golds. Now if my damned car would just show up. (patience...patience)

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Old 05-04-2001, 10:15 PM   #5
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gtguy: the Subaru struts/springs are about $1000 or so at subaruparts.com. The extra items are sway bar, alum arms and STi bushing kit - I don't believe any of these items are included with coilover kits.

Are there any coilover kits for ~$1000 or $1100?

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Old 05-04-2001, 10:49 PM   #6
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I could proly coil my hand around 1 and a half DMS 50's for that price!? Its a good deal, depending on what you're looking for. Its relatively cheap for what it is...

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Old 05-05-2001, 12:01 AM   #7
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Get it from Subaruparts.com, you can even pick stuff out individually (like you can exclude the A-arms if you want) and I think its worth it, if you have the money
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Old 05-05-2001, 07:36 AM   #8
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If you do order it, I'd suggest ordering the upgraded sway bar as well (matched set and all that).

Don't know if it is a front or rear bar or what dia it is yet.

I've order the alum arms for pose value. (they only fit the sedan)

Reminder: no warranty on these bits and the dealer won't fit them. You have to do it yourself.

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Old 05-05-2001, 08:17 AM   #9
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Didn't realize it was that cheap, Glenn. The $1800 is MSRP then? And does the wagon kit also include arms?

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Old 05-05-2001, 01:08 PM   #10
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Is the car lowered at all with this suspension setup? If so, anyone know how much?
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Old 05-05-2001, 08:10 PM   #11
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$1800 MSRP sedan, $1500 MSRP wagon, something like that. No arms for wagon (they're different). Someone had a theory that the wagon would take "old Impreza" alum arms.

The $1500 also includes the STi bushing kit which will tighten the car up but add a lot more NVH (noise, vibration, harshness).

I think these bits are for sale at good prices. Of course, I'd like to try them out before I say it is a really good deal.

Go to my web site (new-impreza.com) and click on Upgrades and then Suspension and you'll see all the part numbers and stuff.

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Old 05-06-2001, 12:36 AM   #12
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Thanks for everyone's opinions.
Are most suspension mods are pretty easy to do yourself?
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Old 05-06-2001, 02:01 AM   #13
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Glenn, check your web site again, theres a discount right now for that suspension upgrade... Came out to only $1,486.65 for the sedan with everything. The wagon is only $1200 or so.
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Old 05-06-2001, 06:47 AM   #14
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The kit prices I list on my site and quoted are MSRP --- the earlier prices I quoted ($1000-1100) are 4 springs/struts discounted at subaruparts.com.

So the discounted totals you post sound about right. subaruparts.com rocks!

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Old 05-06-2001, 06:54 AM   #15
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From what I`ve seen of the suspension installed, it really doesn`t lower it much if any. Good deal for the price though.

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Old 05-07-2001, 09:36 AM   #16
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I've been trying to get as much info on as I can, what I know so far is that:

Shocks: KYB 40mm non-adjustable (no damping rate info)
Springs: Progressive and do not lower the car at all. Front 38/Rear 33.4kw
Rear sway: No info at all from either my dealer or SOA.

Though tempted, I'm still waiting for more info before I commit.
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Old 05-20-2001, 09:37 PM   #17
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Has anyone seen an update on this (the '02 Wagon STi Suspension Parts)?

I've seen in other posts that the stock rear sway is 17mm, and someone had the opinion that a stronger sway might cause excessive oversteer.
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Old 05-21-2001, 12:11 AM   #18
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Most people want that oversteer.

But from subaruparts.com you can order the parts seperate for that kit (alum a-arms, struts, sway bar, and bushings)

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Old 05-21-2001, 06:19 AM   #19
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I have the strut rates etc on my site.
No info on sway bar though.
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Aaahh . . . but I am in search of that "just right" amount of oversteer.

Seriously, I am interested to see how the Wagon spring rates/stabilizer bar size compare to stock and to the Sedan STi kit and stock. Then I want to hear from the experts on this forum what this will do to ride quality, transitional feel, oversteer vs. understeer - da wurks! Of course, if someone actually has the STi kit installed, I would LOVE to hear their impressions.

I'm kind of peeved that the wagon I ordered doesn't have the same wonderful suspension as the Sedan I test drove, but I do live on a long gravel road - complete with washboard sections and a really awesome banked "S" curve - so I don't want to overdo it.
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Old 05-22-2001, 01:56 AM   #21
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Yes, a review of the upgraded subie parts on the wagon would be most welcome. I tried tracking down a lead for someone in New England Forum who supposedly had this installed on his car, but couldn't find a result with the search. Someone more familiar with the search may have more luck.
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Old 05-22-2001, 07:53 AM   #22
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Any one got part # for the whole kit, not just the pieces? I did not see a whole kit number on Glenn's site.

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Old 05-22-2001, 09:43 AM   #23
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I just got off the phone with a KYB Product Manager, and he said that it will be at least a year before they have an AGX for the WRX. And Prodrive has elected not to offer a shock/damper, so it looks like the STi kit is one of the few options for around $1K. Does Prodrive consider the stock dampers to be adequate, and all us wagon owners need are stiffer springs?

So, I too would love a review from those brave folks who were willing to take a leap of faith and purchase the factory option. Talk to us, we hunger for your knowledge!!!
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Old 05-22-2001, 01:42 PM   #24
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Interesting to hear that Prodrive isn't going to make a suspension kit for the WRX yet. I wonder if they think that it would be a waste of time/money because maybe it wouldn't be that much improvement over the OPTIONAL performance suspension kit from Subaru.

I know Glenn has the damping rates of the optional kit but does anyone know the damping rates of the stock WRX struts? This would be an interesting comparison.

I also wonder if Prodrive recommends their springs to be used only with the optional performance struts or if they can be used with the stock WRX struts as well. HMMMM....
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I just checked the Suby G.B. site and they have both the STi and the Prodrive suspensions listed. Look under "WRSport" for the Prodrive, which they say is Eibach/Bilstein. Now I'm really confused...
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